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niyad

(113,329 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:25 AM Jan 2021

A late night thought: research says we need at least five hugs a day to maintain good mental

health. But in this plague time, as we are isolated, social distanced, zoomed, worried, scared, sick, depressed, or just in our own little bubbles. . .what will be the long-term effects of being deprived of this mental health necessity? In addition to all the other things with which we are dealing.

What can be done?

Just a late night thought, but I have been dealing with crises all day (not mine, I am just the sounding board and fixer), and I just started wondering.

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A late night thought: research says we need at least five hugs a day to maintain good mental (Original Post) niyad Jan 2021 OP
Does hugging animals count? Jim__ Jan 2021 #1
I think it does. My kitteh thinks so! But not everyone has huggable pets. niyad Jan 2021 #3
I hope so, otherwise I'm in in the hole to the tune of tens of thousands of hugs. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #43
Get a dog or cat to hug -- it's the next best thing. Or maybe better than humans. Liberty Belle Jan 2021 #2
I am fortunate enough to be owned by a cat, so I am okay. niyad Jan 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author SheltieLover Jan 2021 #13
There are special stuffed animals available TrishaJ Jan 2021 #23
A Joy For All cat? I got one for my mom: highplainsdem Jan 2021 #33
Yes! TrishaJ Jan 2021 #37
If a dog initiates the hug, it counts for two hugs Brother Buzz Jan 2021 #4
That is very good to know. niyad Jan 2021 #6
Just so you know.... Brother Buzz Jan 2021 #8
Then I am definitely good! niyad Jan 2021 #10
This is what Operation Snowball teaches in drug prevention program! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #7
Thank you, I will check it out. niyad Jan 2021 #11
Commoditize those hugs. TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #9
I nearly lost my coffee! niyad Jan 2021 #12
Thank goodness that you didn't since I don't have keyboard replacement policy. TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #14
I saw that type of business mentioned in a news story... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #18
I've observed much of what you have at the holiday events. TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #21
Yeah, it's usually pleasant. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #22
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author SheltieLover Jan 2021 #15
I just tried that, and it's amazing Hekate Jan 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jan 2021 #36
I have been hugging my all white furry feline a lot lately. roamer65 Jan 2021 #16
I prefer "hugs" and kisses from my dog. BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #17
You can also SheltieLover Jan 2021 #20
These are all wonderful suggestions and techniques, and I will definitely pass them on. niyad Jan 2021 #26
My brain must, or it would scare me! Weird! Nt USALiberal Jan 2021 #41
here's what we do Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #24
Yes! My cat has me, and I have DU. I am one very lucky person! niyad Jan 2021 #25
Anybody here Bloom County fans? leftyladyfrommo Jan 2021 #27
Loved Bloom County! Just a wee bit early for a dandelion patch, though! niyad Jan 2021 #28
He's back on FB now. Breathed's cartoons are a leftyladyfrommo Jan 2021 #29
Not on fb, but will pass this great news on. Thank you! niyad Jan 2021 #31
I think scheduled hugs are fakish Beringia Jan 2021 #32
What research? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #34
Since I read it many years ago, I don't remember. niyad Jan 2021 #35
Here ya go, niyad. It looks like only 5 hugs is a maintenance dose. Hugin Jan 2021 #40
KnR for hugz. n/t Hugin Jan 2021 #38
Hugggggs to you! niyad Jan 2021 #39
The benefits of hugging. (healthline) Hugin Jan 2021 #42

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
43. I hope so, otherwise I'm in in the hole to the tune of tens of thousands of hugs.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jan 2021

Thank Dog for the canines in my life.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
2. Get a dog or cat to hug -- it's the next best thing. Or maybe better than humans.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:37 AM
Jan 2021

I know this sounds silly but I've known some older folks who loved to receive a stuffed toy or doll.

I got what was supposed to be a doorstop for Mom, who has dementia, to replace a rock she'd been using. The doorstop is a big stuffed toy that looks like an owl with a weigh in the bottom. She's taken to carrying it around and hugging it.

My Dad did the same with a stuffed bear when he was in a nursing home with dementia. I recommend this for anyone who lives alone, especially the elderly who are so lonely right now with few visitors due to COVID.

niyad

(113,329 posts)
5. I am fortunate enough to be owned by a cat, so I am okay.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:43 AM
Jan 2021

I will keep the stuffed doll/toy thing in mind, as I can foresee some need in my circle. Thank you.

Response to Liberty Belle (Reply #2)

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
23. There are special stuffed animals available
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:24 AM
Jan 2021

for the elderly. I got my mom an interactive cat that responds to being hugged and petted.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
7. This is what Operation Snowball teaches in drug prevention program!
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:49 AM
Jan 2021

People need validation from others. It is a dynamic of Masliw's hierarchy of needs, even if an overlooked one.

Edward Teyber refers to invalidation as "soul murder" (in the context of family of origin) in "Interpersonal Process in Therapy an Integrative Model."

Although Teyber's assertion is from a different perspective, I think the effects can be similar.

And I feel that practicing self-compassion and hugging a pet can help to fill this critical need during covid.

Dr. Kristen Neff is the definitive expert on the topic of self-compassion. For anyone interested, here is her website link:

https://self-compassion.org/

I hope this is helpful!

TexasTowelie

(112,226 posts)
9. Commoditize those hugs.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:54 AM
Jan 2021

Right-wingers love to amplify the successes of capitalism so certainly an entrepreneur can somehow find a way to make a profit on the hugging business while not crossing the line into what would be considered as criminal activity.

TexasTowelie

(112,226 posts)
14. Thank goodness that you didn't since I don't have keyboard replacement policy.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:12 AM
Jan 2021

I thought I would throw in a comment from right field since there a lot of Repukes who believe money solves all problems and that there is no such thing as COVID so they don't have to worry about catching it.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
18. I saw that type of business mentioned in a news story...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:21 AM
Jan 2021

... a few years ago!

I'm not sure that I believe this hugging research. My most emotionally-mature relatives lived alone for years.

I've also been alone for years. Hugs during holiday gatherings with family, and that's been about it for me over the last 20 years or so.

During those same holiday events, I witnessed the "price" of companionship -- such as incessant nagging and bickering which clearly made them nervous wrecks.

Edit: My family history is full of loners. (And obviously some baby-makers too or I wouldn't be here.)

TexasTowelie

(112,226 posts)
21. I've observed much of what you have at the holiday events.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:32 AM
Jan 2021

While I do get lonely at times and I would also enjoy some of the benefits of companionship, I also value my privacy too. An occasional hug from someone without any strings attached would be sufficient to bolster my mental health.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
22. Yeah, it's usually pleasant.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:37 AM
Jan 2021

I've encountered so many "transactional" people over the years in adulthood, probably because it's so embedded in the national psyche, that it doesn't seem worth it unless I finally meet a woman who behaves like my friends when I was a child... hanging out just because they like you.

Edit: By the way, this might be the "professional cuddler" story that I saw in the past. Lol.
https://www.nbcnews.com/businessmain/professional-cuddler-offers-hugs-hire-2D11650793

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
30. +1000
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 08:47 PM
Jan 2021

I'm pretty much on the same page as you, and I don't particularly feel comforted by hugs from other human beings. However, I love "hugs" and cuddles from dogs, which I only get occasionally. It would be nice to have a dog at some point, but I am not really in a position right now.

Agree with pretty much everything in your post.

Response to niyad (Original post)

Response to SheltieLover (Reply #15)

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
17. I prefer "hugs" and kisses from my dog.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:20 AM
Jan 2021

She made me feel better in a nanosecond. Warm, soft kisses, soft warm fur and a wagging tail combine to make the perfect "hug". I miss her a lot!!!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
20. You can also
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:29 AM
Jan 2021

Cook nutritious meals with focused attention on self-care.

Apply body lotion with intention on self-care.

Just other ideas that seem simple & mundane, but can be profoundly healing when done with focused intention.

Don't forget, when your hand(s) cross your body's midline, your brain no longer recognizes your hands as your own. So, for instance, applying body lotion to one's left arm with one's right hand is perceived as touch by another.

And please do not discount self hugs! Again, hands crossing midline.

niyad

(113,329 posts)
26. These are all wonderful suggestions and techniques, and I will definitely pass them on.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:12 PM
Jan 2021

Between DU, my cat, and texting, I am doing fine. But I have been wondering and worrying about others, who are not as fortunate as I.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
27. Anybody here Bloom County fans?
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:30 PM
Jan 2021

Remember Opus and the Dial A Mom?

Or when you really get down you can go lay in the dandelion patch?

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
32. I think scheduled hugs are fakish
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 09:23 PM
Jan 2021

I had a relative that read that about needing hugs and would say, oh i need a hug, and there was no sincerity or affection to it at all.

Hugin

(33,155 posts)
40. Here ya go, niyad. It looks like only 5 hugs is a maintenance dose.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 10:01 AM
Jan 2021

How many hugs do we need?

"Family therapist Virginia Satir once said, “We need four hugs a day for survival. We need 8 hugs a day for maintenance. We need 12 hugs a day for growth.” While that may sound like a lot of hugs, it seems that many hugs are better than not enough.

So, how many hugs should you have a day for optimal health? According to the best science, we should have as many as possible if we want to reap the greatest positive effects.

Unfortunately, most Western people today — especially people in the United States — are touch-deprived. Many people live solitary or busy lives with reduced social interaction and touching.

Our modern social conventions often push people not to touch others who aren’t directly related to them. However, it seems people could benefit a lot from touching others a bit more.

So, if you want to feel better about yourself, reduce your stress, improve communication, and be happier and healthier, it seems that giving and asking for more hugs is a good place to start.

If you feel nervous about seeking out more hugs, start by asking for them from friends and family members closest to you first.

Science proves that regular hugs with those closest to you, even if brief, can have especially positive effects on your brain and body." - (Editor's note : Literally, the bottom line.)



FROM: https://www.healthline.com/health/hugging-benefits#How-many-hugs-do-we-need?

Hugin

(33,155 posts)
42. The benefits of hugging. (healthline)
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 10:07 AM
Jan 2021

What Are the Benefits of Hugging?

1. Hugs reduce stress by showing your support
2. Hugs may protect you against illness
3. Hugs may boost your heart health
4. Hugs can make you happier
5. Hugs help reduce your fears
6. Hugs may help reduce your pain
7. Hugs help you communicate with others



Go to: https://www.healthline.com/health/hugging-benefits to read the meat.
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