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634-5789

(4,175 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:05 AM Jan 2021

Rep. Scott Perry Unmasked As Key Accomplice In Trump Election Subversion Plot

Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA) played a key role in linking Trump with people who were willing to participate in his election overturn plot.

The New York Times reported:

Mr. Perry introduced the president to Mr. Clark, whose openness to conspiracy theories about election fraud presented Mr. Trump with a welcome change from the acting attorney general, Jeffrey A. Rosen, who stood by the results of the election and had repeatedly resisted the president’s efforts to undo them.

Mr. Perry’s involvement is also likely to heighten scrutiny of House Republicans who continue to advance Mr. Trump’s false and thoroughly debunked claims of election fraud, even after President Biden’s inauguration this week and as Congress prepares for an impeachment trial that will examine whether such talk incited the Capitol riot.

Trump was rebuffed by high-level officials within the executive branch as he tried to use the federal government to overturn the election, so he turned his attention to House Republican loyalists and lower-level government officials to carry out his plot to undo Joe Biden’s victory.

There need to be full investigations and punishments for all of those involved. The conspiracy to overturn the results of the 2020 election appears to go much deeper than first realized. It wasn’t just Trump and people like Rudy Giuliani trying to overturn democracy, but the former president also had elected members of Congress in on the plot.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/politics/scott-perry-trump-justice-department-election.html

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Rep. Scott Perry Unmasked As Key Accomplice In Trump Election Subversion Plot (Original Post) 634-5789 Jan 2021 OP
Root all the plotter out. At the very least expose them as the traitors they are...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #1
Perry is a conspiracy nut too. bronxiteforever Jan 2021 #2
And our Sheldon Adelson Right Wing Rag of a Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #11
That is sad and disturbing. bronxiteforever Jan 2021 #12
Sinclair Broadcasting owned Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #13
Fun wryter2000 Jan 2021 #17
Article 3, Section 3 bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #3
Glad they found hard evidence that 2naSalit Jan 2021 #4
Trump Has Another Hurdle To Cross That Nobody Is Talking About DallasNE Jan 2021 #5
something related NJCher Jan 2021 #16
I saw it on TV last night too. Thanks for finding the original source. liberalla Jan 2021 #19
Eventually, we might have our own wnylib Jan 2021 #6
An effigy parade! liberalla Jan 2021 #18
What a sight! But a moving, burning parade wnylib Jan 2021 #20
You're right. Maybe a parade of the effigy figures to a final, designated safe place liberalla Jan 2021 #22
I like the pinata idea. wnylib Jan 2021 #23
Is this anywhere else besides NYT? I'm starting to not trust them. AllyCat Jan 2021 #7
I know ... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2021 #15
It's good to see the Times article about this. Silver1 Jan 2021 #8
With many more to come..... marmar Jan 2021 #9
If Trump Had Only Worked Half as Hard for the American People as He Did to Overturn the Election, panfluteman Jan 2021 #10
Not two hours ago I had the same thought! If he had fought COVID half liberalla Jan 2021 #21
Thank You for posting..K and R Stuart G Jan 2021 #14
Another one, huh? BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #24

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
2. Perry is a conspiracy nut too.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 10:53 AM
Jan 2021

In January 2018, Perry suggested that ISIS may have been involved in the 2017 Las Vegas shooting. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack, but authorities have maintained that gunman Stephen Paddock acted alone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/19/channeling-conspiracy-theory-congressman-says-las-vegas-attack-linked-to-possible-terrorist-nexus/

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. And our Sheldon Adelson Right Wing Rag of a
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jan 2021

Newspaper ran with that story state wide on their news service.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
3. Article 3, Section 3
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:01 AM
Jan 2021

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
5. Trump Has Another Hurdle To Cross That Nobody Is Talking About
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:30 AM
Jan 2021

While there has been no smoking gun email to service where Trump communicated directly with the riot leaders that he wanted them to ransack the Capitol to get Pence and Pelosi there is a ton of lower level contact where the desires were reasonably shared and there is ample evidence of insider help once the attack started.

But the missing piece for Trump is if it wasn't him who radicalized his followers and ordered the attack on the Capitol, who did issue those orders. Who else had motive and opportunity to direct the attack? So far that answer is a big fat zero.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
16. something related
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:44 PM
Jan 2021

I heard on television last night that he--in advance--said 10,000 National Guard would be needed. I think they said he was asked about this and he reiterated: 10,000 National Guard would be needed.

This shows he knew what he was doing in advance.

I wish I could remember more, but I can't. Maybe I can find something else on this and if I do, I'll post back.

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on edit, here it is. As reported by Vanity Fair in an article called " The President Threw Us Under the Bus..."

snip
On the evening of January 5—the night before a white supremacist mob stormed Capitol Hill in a siege that would leave five dead—the acting secretary of defense, Christopher Miller, was at the White House with his chief of staff, Kash Patel. They were meeting with President Trump on “an Iran issue,” Miller told me. But then the conversation switched gears. The president, Miller recalled, asked how many troops the Pentagon planned to turn out the following day. “We’re like, ‘We’re going to provide any National Guard support that the District requests,’” Miller responded. “And [Trump] goes, ‘You’re going to need 10,000 people.’ No, I’m not talking bullshit. He said that. And we’re like, ‘Maybe. But you know, someone’s going to have to ask for it.’” At that point Miller remembered the president telling him, “‘You do what you need to do. You do what you need to do.’ He said, ‘You’re going to need 10,000.’ That’s what he said. Swear to God.”

snip

I think what we have here is Trump's need to appear important and in the know. He undermined his own insurgency with that emotional deficit that he has.

Pathetic.

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link: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/embedding-with-pentagon-leadership-in-trumps-chaotic-last-week

wnylib

(21,474 posts)
6. Eventually, we might have our own
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jan 2021

version of Britain's Guy Fawkes Day and celebrate it with fireworks and burning Donald Trump in effigy. In our version, we would be able to choose from a number of effigy persons besides just Trump.

wnylib

(21,474 posts)
20. What a sight! But a moving, burning parade
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jan 2021

parade might be a tad dangerous. Flying sparks.

Maybe a burning lineup in one place instead.

I'd hate to honor their names, even in dishonor. So call it Democracy Victory Day instead of the British custom of naming it for the traitor.

liberalla

(9,249 posts)
22. You're right. Maybe a parade of the effigy figures to a final, designated safe place
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jan 2021

for the climactic burning. Or figure out another form of destruction of the effigy which is not actual fire. Art and theater people could create some visual display/illusion that might mimic fire... or science/chemists mix up something non-toxic for the illusion of fire, smoke, etc.

May I suggest pinatas? It would so emotionally satisfying to bash the hell out of some of these traitors! (well at least their paper mache images)

wnylib

(21,474 posts)
23. I like the pinata idea.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jan 2021

It gives me great pleasure to think of a Mexican custom being used to express how people feel about these racist traitors who put Latin American children in cages.

Cathartic.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,728 posts)
15. I know ...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:29 PM
Jan 2021

Firing a reporter for tweeting she had “chills” when Biden’s plane touched down at Andrews AFB.

Really?

Fuck the NYT.

Silver1

(721 posts)
8. It's good to see the Times article about this.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:43 AM
Jan 2021

But I couldn't find the last two paragraphs you pasted above in the article. Is there another link?

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
10. If Trump Had Only Worked Half as Hard for the American People as He Did to Overturn the Election,
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jan 2021

He maybe could have won re-election fair and square. But that would be totally out of character for him - since when has he ever won anything fair and square in his life? We may be whacking out Trump moles for a long time to come.

liberalla

(9,249 posts)
21. Not two hours ago I had the same thought! If he had fought COVID half
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jan 2021

as hard as he worked to cheat and steal the election, we'd be in a much better place... AND he may have won.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
24. Another one, huh?
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

Hard to believe, right?

FML America has gone crazy. Present company excepted, of course. Let me say "a good-sized chunk of America has gone crazy."

But seriously, the size of the group that would, in normal times, be considered to be outside even the fringe, is shockingly large. A line can be drawn in many places as to how to define and pigeonhole the lunatics, but that just adjusts the size of the group under discussion up or down.

Millions upon millions of average citizens and an absolutely appalling number of elected officials are fine with the idea of what they obviously don't consider to be sedition. It's madness.

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