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Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA) played a key role in linking Trump with people who were willing to participate in his election overturn plot.
The New York Times reported:
Mr. Perry introduced the president to Mr. Clark, whose openness to conspiracy theories about election fraud presented Mr. Trump with a welcome change from the acting attorney general, Jeffrey A. Rosen, who stood by the results of the election and had repeatedly resisted the presidents efforts to undo them.
Mr. Perrys involvement is also likely to heighten scrutiny of House Republicans who continue to advance Mr. Trumps false and thoroughly debunked claims of election fraud, even after President Bidens inauguration this week and as Congress prepares for an impeachment trial that will examine whether such talk incited the Capitol riot.
Trump was rebuffed by high-level officials within the executive branch as he tried to use the federal government to overturn the election, so he turned his attention to House Republican loyalists and lower-level government officials to carry out his plot to undo Joe Bidens victory.
There need to be full investigations and punishments for all of those involved. The conspiracy to overturn the results of the 2020 election appears to go much deeper than first realized. It wasnt just Trump and people like Rudy Giuliani trying to overturn democracy, but the former president also had elected members of Congress in on the plot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/23/us/politics/scott-perry-trump-justice-department-election.html
Wounded Bear
(58,660 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)In January 2018, Perry suggested that ISIS may have been involved in the 2017 Las Vegas shooting. ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack, but authorities have maintained that gunman Stephen Paddock acted alone.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/19/channeling-conspiracy-theory-congressman-says-las-vegas-attack-linked-to-possible-terrorist-nexus/
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Newspaper ran with that story state wide on their news service.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)TV stations here did likewise.
wryter2000
(46,051 posts)That a conspiracy nut was part of a conspiracy.
bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
2naSalit
(86,636 posts)can be used in court.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)While there has been no smoking gun email to service where Trump communicated directly with the riot leaders that he wanted them to ransack the Capitol to get Pence and Pelosi there is a ton of lower level contact where the desires were reasonably shared and there is ample evidence of insider help once the attack started.
But the missing piece for Trump is if it wasn't him who radicalized his followers and ordered the attack on the Capitol, who did issue those orders. Who else had motive and opportunity to direct the attack? So far that answer is a big fat zero.
NJCher
(35,675 posts)I heard on television last night that he--in advance--said 10,000 National Guard would be needed. I think they said he was asked about this and he reiterated: 10,000 National Guard would be needed.
This shows he knew what he was doing in advance.
I wish I could remember more, but I can't. Maybe I can find something else on this and if I do, I'll post back.
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on edit, here it is. As reported by Vanity Fair in an article called " The President Threw Us Under the Bus..."
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On the evening of January 5the night before a white supremacist mob stormed Capitol Hill in a siege that would leave five deadthe acting secretary of defense, Christopher Miller, was at the White House with his chief of staff, Kash Patel. They were meeting with President Trump on an Iran issue, Miller told me. But then the conversation switched gears. The president, Miller recalled, asked how many troops the Pentagon planned to turn out the following day. Were like, Were going to provide any National Guard support that the District requests, Miller responded. And [Trump] goes, Youre going to need 10,000 people. No, Im not talking bullshit. He said that. And were like, Maybe. But you know, someones going to have to ask for it. At that point Miller remembered the president telling him, You do what you need to do. You do what you need to do. He said, Youre going to need 10,000. Thats what he said. Swear to God.
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I think what we have here is Trump's need to appear important and in the know. He undermined his own insurgency with that emotional deficit that he has.
Pathetic.
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link: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/embedding-with-pentagon-leadership-in-trumps-chaotic-last-week
liberalla
(9,249 posts)wnylib
(21,474 posts)version of Britain's Guy Fawkes Day and celebrate it with fireworks and burning Donald Trump in effigy. In our version, we would be able to choose from a number of effigy persons besides just Trump.
liberalla
(9,249 posts)wnylib
(21,474 posts)parade might be a tad dangerous. Flying sparks.
Maybe a burning lineup in one place instead.
I'd hate to honor their names, even in dishonor. So call it Democracy Victory Day instead of the British custom of naming it for the traitor.
liberalla
(9,249 posts)for the climactic burning. Or figure out another form of destruction of the effigy which is not actual fire. Art and theater people could create some visual display/illusion that might mimic fire... or science/chemists mix up something non-toxic for the illusion of fire, smoke, etc.
May I suggest pinatas? It would so emotionally satisfying to bash the hell out of some of these traitors! (well at least their paper mache images)
wnylib
(21,474 posts)It gives me great pleasure to think of a Mexican custom being used to express how people feel about these racist traitors who put Latin American children in cages.
Cathartic.
AllyCat
(16,187 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,728 posts)Firing a reporter for tweeting she had chills when Bidens plane touched down at Andrews AFB.
Really?
Fuck the NYT.
Silver1
(721 posts)But I couldn't find the last two paragraphs you pasted above in the article. Is there another link?
marmar
(77,081 posts)panfluteman
(2,065 posts)He maybe could have won re-election fair and square. But that would be totally out of character for him - since when has he ever won anything fair and square in his life? We may be whacking out Trump moles for a long time to come.
liberalla
(9,249 posts)as hard as he worked to cheat and steal the election, we'd be in a much better place... AND he may have won.
Stuart G
(38,428 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Hard to believe, right?
FML America has gone crazy. Present company excepted, of course. Let me say "a good-sized chunk of America has gone crazy."
But seriously, the size of the group that would, in normal times, be considered to be outside even the fringe, is shockingly large. A line can be drawn in many places as to how to define and pigeonhole the lunatics, but that just adjusts the size of the group under discussion up or down.
Millions upon millions of average citizens and an absolutely appalling number of elected officials are fine with the idea of what they obviously don't consider to be sedition. It's madness.