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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie Sanders is on CNN now with Dana Bash regarding reconciliation as a means to get the
financial relief package passed if republicans refuse to compromise.
Bash is presenting the inconsistency when Bernie was against reconciliation when the republicans did it, but has no problem doing it now should the republicans refuse to compromise.
His rebuttal is that the republicans used reconciliation back then to give tax breaks and other benefits to those who didn't need, while the case now is that with millions unemployed, unable to meet rent or mortgage obligations, feed their families, etc. is an emergency situation that cannot wait, and he has no problem if the republicans wish to criticize him for his inconsistency on reconciliation because the situation is not comparable. We are in crisis. That was not the case when the republicans exercised it.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)ananda
(28,860 posts)Reeps wanted to use it to help their rich donors and cronies.
Dems want to use it to help people who really need it.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,427 posts)Opposite the RePutinicans core belief.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)mucifer
(23,545 posts)very helpful. There were some weird white guys who in 2016 liked trump and Bernie but not Hillary.
Now is the time to use this to our advantage!
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)BComplex
(8,051 posts)with millions and millions of Americans.
plimsoll
(1,670 posts)Senator Sanders can be difficult, but that is hardly unusual. Most Readers here probably wont object to anybody trying to resolve this crisis, but plenty would object to saying this is the only way it can be resolved or that only X politician can do it.
still_one
(92,190 posts)something 99% of us agree on
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Bigredhunk
(1,349 posts)GD she can be annoying. It was only weeks ago that she was still trying to do a praising of drumpf's "tone" thing again.
still_one
(92,190 posts)She brought up the mitten craze, and he loved it
Happy Hoosier
(7,308 posts)... and they are many.... he is the exact voice we need on this issue right now. And it underlines why he belongs in the Senate and not in the cabinet.
NHvet
(240 posts)He best serves all of us being a Senator. He has great ideas and always has been for the common man, but he is too polarizing to the other side to be able to get to the big stage.
W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)Did Dana Bash ask him about that?
still_one
(92,190 posts)are literally at risk. However, because of the 50-50 situation in the Senate, new rules need to be agreed on between McConnell and Schumer before the Democrats can exert their majority agenda. Until that happens the Senate rules are governed by the old rules, which were under republican control.
It is unfortunate that we could not have gained at least one more Senate seat. However, I am thankful that we have at least have what we have.
McConnell is saying he will not agree to any Senate rules unless Schumer says the filibuster will not be taken away. Schumer up to now has indicated he won't budge on that, but in order for the Democrats to control the agenda and move forward, I am not sure what he can do.
I am hoping beyond hope that there might be one republican Senator who goes independent, and caucuses with the Democrats, but that is even more unlikely to happen
At least as far as the stimulus is concerned, we don't need to get rid of the filibuster to make that happen, because we can achieve that through reconciliation, and in either case whether we are talking about getting rid of the filibuster or reconciliation to get the aid package through, the emergency situation we are in justify it
W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)And it is believed we won't be able to pass everything in Biden's proposed COVID relief bill through reconciliation, so, we will be leaving some items off the table. Sanders has said in the past that he isn't necessarily in favor of getting rid of the filibuster, so if that is still his stance today, I would like to be aware of it so that we Democrats can start lobbying him just like we are Manchin, Sinema, etc.
still_one
(92,190 posts)marble falls
(57,093 posts)dsc
(52,162 posts)not have exceptions for things that in the main tend to favor GOP priorities. Yes, in this case we are doing things that favor our priorities so yeah for that, but there are massive things that need done that can't be done in reconciliation.
still_one
(92,190 posts)death issues this involves, I believe justify the use of reconciliation. As you said reconciliation isnt applicable for most things, but in this pandemic emergency I think it definitely justifies it.
This is not because of a Democratic or Republican priority, but an American people issue because of the pandemic
The reason I favor abolishing the filibuster is because I think it is not only misused, but because it goes against the idea that an issue with the most votes doesnt necessarily win
I understand the justification for it is because it gives the minority a voice, but unless it is reformed, it is too easily misused
The reason Reed removed it is because McConnell was misusing it to prevent President Obama from getting anything through
dsc
(52,162 posts)for anything other than Court appointments and the GOP abuse of it rendered that purpose illigitimate too.
still_one
(92,190 posts)south which allow southern senators to utilize it to block Civil Rights bills
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)He's rarely wrong.
still_one
(92,190 posts)mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)mvd
(65,173 posts)Glad to see him in this important position.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Have I missed some major discussions and am without some important information?