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Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) became annoyed with an ABC host on Sunday over the suggestion that former President Donald Trump's defenders are all "liars" about the results of the 2020 election.
"This election was not stolen," ABC host Georgia Stephanopoulos began his interview with Paul by noting. "Do you accept that fact?"
Paul, however, refused to respond with a straight answer.
"The debate over whether or not there's fraud should occur," Paul opined. "But, yes, were there people who voted twice? Were there dead people, illegal aliens who voted? Yes. And we should get to the bottom of it." .............(more)
https://www.rawstory.com/rand-paul-election/?
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,998 posts)Shermann
(7,413 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:33 PM - Edit history (1)
This is basically a useless tautology.
The rest is pettifogging that sounds intelligent, but isn't.
PatSeg
(47,442 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)about it being stolen originally and they got caught at it.
spooky3
(34,453 posts)malaise
(269,004 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,644 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,084 posts)SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)and making it exhaustively difficult for some voters to participate in elections, the republicans are now worried about the integrity of voting in elections?
Rand Paul is a disgusting human being, and republicans, in general, are the most hypocritical forms of life on the planet.
PatSeg
(47,442 posts)They cheat like some people breathe and see nothing wrong with it, as long as THEY are the ones doing it. Then they project that dishonesty to their opponents. I think that political trick has run out of steam already and they don't have the imagination to come up with new ones. Well, maybe they can embrace the lizard people dwelling in the deep state. Or they could retire and let the grownups run the country.
Cirque du So-What
(25,939 posts)and thats the NICEST word I can come up with for you.
pandr32
(11,584 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,042 posts)Not all of them are liars about this.
There are around 15 Rs that refuted the fraud thing.
So yeah Randy, all but 15 of you are liars! Including you!
Is that better, Randy?
Cirque du So-What
(25,939 posts)And each of those who refuted the fraud live in fear, not only for their political future but their personal safety and that of their families.
ProfessorGAC
(65,042 posts)Well, not really. I liked him better when he got his ass kicked!
Cirque du So-What
(25,939 posts)...but I understand.
niyad
(113,312 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)of election fraud as you say - the minuscule # of incidents similar to those that you mentioned, happened to be with mostly republican voters. So yes, lets get to the bottom of that fraud as well as the fraud coming from politicians like yourself who perpetrated even bigger fraud. Including the former so called president calling around to put pressure on officials.
Irish_Dem
(47,084 posts)And your lies are killing Americans and America.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)we can do it
(12,185 posts)Response to marmar (Original post)
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Cetacea
(7,367 posts)Why hasn't anyone come out and said that?
Chainfire
(17,539 posts)Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)might have kicked the shit out of him one day.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm only sorry he didn't finsh the job.
MissMillie
(38,559 posts)The GOP has done everything in their power, over a number of years, to suppress the vote The seats lost in the House are undoubtedly because of this.
This never gets mentioned in these exchanges. Is the press trying to appear unbiased?
Trump lost anyway. (We have heroes like Stacy Abrams to thank for this.)
We KNOW that Mr. tRump formed a task force on voter fraud and was told that it is EXTREMELY rare and didn't affect the 2016 election.
I think I read somewhere that the GWB administration also investigated voter fraud and came up with the same results.
In 2020, ALL 50 Governors and Secretaries of State certified their elections as fair and free from fraud.
So, yeah, Rand Paul... you're a big fat liar.
Thekaspervote
(32,767 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)Among the repukes was systemic. Now I know that a majority of them were complicit in the attempt to destroy democracy
Aussie105
(5,397 posts)Tells you all you need to know.
It's NOT OK for a grown man to sulk like that.
Other than keeping the hopes of the Deplorables going, what is he trying to do? Look like an idiot? Achieved!
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)What a treasonous scumbag
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)About what George just said. He did not call him a liar he said, the election was not stolen, that is the lie!
Wonder why that neighbor went after him?
Rorey
(8,445 posts)But I can relate to what the neighbor did.
kickitup
(355 posts)Boucher finally hauled the lawn detritus to the dump on October 10. But a few days later, Paul allegedly reconstructed the pile of debris in the same spot. Boucher took it away again, only to find more mounds of brush stacked in its place.
Boucher did battle with the pile again on November 2, setting fire to it and sustaining second-degree burns in the process. On November 3, the day of the assault, Paul was blowing leaves onto Boucher property. He was also allegedly rebuilding the stack of branches and yard waste.
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/12/17453976/rand-paul-assault-rene-boucher-neighbors-dispute-pile-of-brush
oasis
(49,387 posts)I would of handled the situation without losing my head, but I'd be a not-guilty vote on a jury since Paul deliberately provoked his neighbor.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I honestly think that out of all of the repukes that I absolutely hate, he's the one I hate most.
George Stephanopoulos did a good job, except that I think he should have just cut away from the asshole.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)wnylib
(21,466 posts)LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)PatSeg
(47,442 posts)Whenever I say I hate this one the most, three or four more pop in my head. Maybe I should just pick one-a-week!
Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, Louis Gohmert, Ted Cruz, Rick Scott, Mitch McConnell, Tom Cotten, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachman, Sweeter-than-honey Marsha Blackburn, John "No relation" Kennedy, Mo Brooks, Ron Johnson - that's just scratching the surface. Then we have the newbies who could be worse than anything we've confronted so far. There are so many of them, it is unnerving.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I've gotta throw Lauren Boebert in with your list. I knew she'd be an embarrassment to the state of Colorado, but I didn't think she'd out herself as a traitor so quickly.
PatSeg
(47,442 posts)The one we're looking at in any given moment.
Boebert is almost in a class of her own. She didn't take her time and get a feel for the place like new people often do. She just jumped right in, running her mouth and incriminating herself in pretty much every way possible. Too far-fetched even for an SNL skit, though it will be fun to see how SNL portrays her. That's going to be a challenge.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)We are hip to you and your old white man ways. Liar, circle-jerk answers, traitor.
It all fits you like a condom.
Piratedog
(256 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)They would simply REFUSE to have these Assholes on their shows, unless they agree to come 100% clean.
Let the Rand Paul's & Ted Cruz's live off Faux News for the remainder of their useless careers.
Ponietz
(2,971 posts)spanone
(135,833 posts)intheflow
(28,474 posts)Mostly, the dead ones. Rand Paul is most definitely dead in his soul, which makes him a very alive Republican liar.
Also, kudos for Stephanopoulos for not backing down. The press reports facts, two-sides of this story are Biden won and Republicans are lying. There ya go: two sides of the same story.
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)That would make sense because when an (R)'s lips are moving, they are usually lying.
Walleye
(31,024 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)While I enjoyed watching Rand and Cawthorn lose their shite, I feel it's time to write CBS, ABC, NBC and say stop bringing charlatans and liars on to discuss policy. They add nothing of substance. They spout utter nonsense.
Pamela Brown schooled Cawthorn over his ignorance, left him blinking like a deer in the headlights. Stephanopolous really ought to have shut Rand's mic off. The rude, boorish, talking over and shouting down the host is reminiscent of trying to win by volume.
This bullyboy behavior need to be called out and frozen in its tracks, too.
This interview did more to fuel the delusions on the right about a stolen election by Paul's deliberate and repeated strawmanning. Everyone who still does that has nothing to offer to a rational exchange and the interview should have ended right there.
George S. was right with his point that there aren't two sides to the fact that the election wasn't stolen but he looked weak because he let Paul bulldoze over him with dishonest arguments. This interview was still giving 80% of the time to conspiracy bs.
samsingh
(17,598 posts)bottom of two sides to that story
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Two sides to every story!
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)If Paul hates the media so much, why does he agree to these interviews?
If he wants to pontificate, go somewhere else.
Just answer the f*Ching questions.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)A police officer was beaten to death by the sort of morons who believe this dead people voted bullshit and this curly-haired fuck is still spreading this deranged conspiracy theory. Vile.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Take your pick.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)At some point just stop, let these guys go on right wing media. Enough with giving them a forum on main stream media. Geez, this is not about tax cuts or same sex marriage....the entire future of the free world depends on beating back these evil monsters.
Stop giving them oxygen. Stephanopoulos and every other main stream media person must think about their kids, grand kids, and the future of the world. Just do not have them on anymore. It is not enough to call out their lies, just letting them on to spew the lies gives them too much credibility.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)The simple answer is stop feeding your constituency Trump's bullshit.
Damn, how do these cockroaches keep getting positions of power?
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)The question is was it intentional, coordinated and widespread and did it benefit either candidate. That has been answered many times in the numerous challenges and lawsuits and answer is a clear no.. and In most cases those who answered this question were Republicans.
The idea that Democrats pulled off some massive election fraud is total nonsense. If we were that good we would have captured more Senate and House seats.
scrabblequeen40
(334 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)So yeah, there are two sides to every story. They have their taking points down, I didn't hear him use their favorite phrase "ballot harvesting".
Peace
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)Lets make sure our voting system can be trusted by all.
When do WE start?
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)ananda
(28,860 posts)You are a liar, Rand Paul.
JHB
(37,160 posts)paleotn
(17,916 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,990 posts)It is one of the most-watched news programs, and it would be helpful for them to take each swing states results and explain any discrepancies found in recounts, essentially Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. For example, I read a couple of weeks ago that a comparison of black votes in Michigan showed voting at only a small increase over 2016, while voting comparisons in the suburbs, many of them white, showed both more voters and more votes for Biden. Trump lost in the suburbs.
A second focus should be the court cases Trump filed and the lack of claims and evidence of fraud. I suspect that many Trump supporters do not know how many losing cases he had, nor what was actually claimed in those cases. Many of them were procedural, not claims of fraud.
Trumps Big Lie cannot be allowed to stand with millions of people believing it. That lie will just continue to fester and cause more violence.
usaf-vet
(6,186 posts)Since the day Scott Walker entered Wisconsin politics, they have bent the power in the state toward republican PERIOD!
If Rand Paul's example of how absentee ballot requirements were changed without the legislator and the courts, then he IS WRONG!
IF there was any possibility for intervention by the legislators or the court, they would have DONE IT! That did not happen; those republican entities didn't just quietly lay down and not act.
The republicans, for years, have used every tactic they could to SUPPRESS voter rights and access. You name a voter suppression scheme, and they have used it in Wisconsin.
One final point Ron Johnson (aka RoJo) is a Wisconsin senator and a tRump supporter. Does Rand Paul think RoJo just laid down without a whimper of course not?
This time the repugs couldn't force their lies down our throats; they have played that card too many times, and the voters know it.
The one thing Rand Paul is right about there are two sides, and this SIDE says in the case of Wisconsin, HE is f***ing WRONG!
NoMoreRepugs
(9,427 posts)Dont book them and kill the lie.
aquamarina
(1,865 posts)What an a-hole
dchill
(38,493 posts)Any time, day or night.
Mosby
(16,311 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,308 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,633 posts)Steph: " There are not two sides to facts".
Paladin
(28,261 posts)He gets worse every time I come across him.
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)Who can say?
mmbrevo
(123 posts)Hulk
(6,699 posts)You're never going to get this asshole Aqua Buddha to admit there was no widespread fraud, and the election was valid.
He's not only a liar, but he's a piece of delusional horse shit to boot.
dansolo
(5,376 posts)Put up or shut up. If so much fraud had occurred, it should be easy to prove. And yet Trump's lawyers couldn't or wouldn't provide any proof.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)to keep their base, and to try to tell what they really believe.
Until they admit the election was legit, they should be ignored, scorned...and eventually, censured or removed.
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)Work on fixing the election by ending the electoral college and install paper ballots in every state. Make mail-in voting the norm and have the election held throughout one week. If you are going to "throw out or purge voters " give cause and those voters the right and time to correct any issues that exist. Paul knows they can't win without cheating or lies. Ask Mitch McConnell, he knows.
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Every time he opens his mouth, I inevitably wish in my mind his neighbor had better aim.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)a foothold and would have been a nothing burger from day one.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)different then the insurgents that stormed the capitol? Should they not all be charged with sedition?
The continued lies spewed by the GOP just enable the insurgents, white supremists, KKK and the ass Drumpf.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)We're done here.
Hotler
(11,421 posts)marble falls
(57,093 posts)... just because it's a political tool for the GOP.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Republicants?
Im old enough to remember Sunday Show excitement. I stopped watching years ago when Lindsey Graham & Republicants seemed favored as guests.
So much history has been made in this election, so many ceilings shattered and Stephenopolus has crack pot looney toons Rand Paul on? Well 🤮
Feel the same about MSNBC & CNN.
AM Becky Anderson is great as is Amanpour at noon MST. Both offer both National & Global news mostly unbiased.
Our country is in so many crisis.
All networks should be helping to educate & help with the heavy lifting.
Are corporate tax breaks preventing TV networks & cable news from joining in the battles we must win to remain a Republic?
And its important to take your Vitamin D in the morning with some fat in your breakfast.
The more over weight you are, the higher the dose. Vitamin D can disrupt melatonin & sleep.
Rand Paul the Sunday after Joe Biden & Kamala Harris are inaugurated?
What the actual bloody hell!
And who doesnt miss the Friday Night investigative journalism like Bill Moyers & David Broncachio.
Apologies spelling.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Don't be silly. It's understood that you are all liars. You have that (R) at the end of your names.
TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)In Wisconsin there were tens of thousands of ballots that were signed but the voters didn't put their address on the ballot and they were counted anyway. This was the first time this was done.
I looked into the reality of this. In fact it was not the voter but the witness where the address was missing. According to the law they can have the witness come in and put the address on or verify the address and the poll worker can put it on. This was also the law in 2016 when no one had a problem with it and it was voted into law by the republican legislature. There is no evidence this procedure was not followed. Given this, I'm not sure what the issue is.
Bettie
(16,109 posts)his neighbor attacked him.
Imagine living next to this walking pile of feces.
EndlessWire
(6,531 posts)That was the time to present evidence. And, standing is something easily determined, and that's too bad. It just didn't go your way.
But, at least we know. Rand plans to investigate this matter for two more years. The people who voted for his sorry ass will miss out because he will be busy looking after Trump's interests and not theirs. He plans to make this a platform to run on when the time comes?
Someone needs to tell him that Trump lost, he's gone, and he ain't coming back. Better for him to vote for impeachment, to secure his own safety.
I smell a rat. Someone stirring the pot...
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)citizen blues
(570 posts)He supports authoritarianism and does not support our government at all!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Nitram
(22,801 posts)and refusing to face the facts. Yes Rand Paul, you are a liar. For one, you kept repeating that the interviewer was claiming there "was no fraud" in spite of his stating repeatedly that, yes, there is some fraud in every election, but the Trump AG and the Justice Apartment investigated and reported there "was no widespread fraud" and the election was properly certified by every state.
Lock him up.
(6,929 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,227 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)Back in the day??
Inquiring minds and all that
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Asshole, maybe we could debate whether he is a killer or not. Then he can see the uselessness. Conservatives never do until it is them.
We'll just talk about the possibility that he might be a killer - there is as much evidence for that as for election fraud in this election. If a debate can be made by creating a side out of thin air, then that debate should be had too.
The debate about whether or not he is an idiot has already been settled.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I CAN'T STAND that obnoxious little punk. He has to be one of the most punchable members of congress. And I am being nice by using the word "punchable".
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)struggle4progress
(118,283 posts)Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... why, yes ...
... yes, all of you are liars ...
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I would also add hes a useless piece of shit.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,491 posts)We want a detailed written report, asshole.
Upon looking at any Randy Paul photo for more than 2-seconds:....
KY..............
Jay25
(417 posts)show proof or give up your seat. These guys are trying to cast doubt amongst the public, Democrats are going to have to fight fire with fire. Call them out for their undying support of Trumps continuous abhorrent actions these 4 years and their support of crimes against humanity.
Republicans wasted millions on Benghazi, disparaged and slandered legitimate election results, and now have the audacity to cite fear of Trump supporters when it comes to impeaching Trump. When it came to ripping children, including infants from their parents, republicans said and did nothing.
When it was publicized that thousands of immigrant children were missing, nothing but crickets were heard from republicans. Not one damn dime was allotted to finding these children, no repercussions for those involved, and to this day, no accounting of who they were and what happened to them.
I know that I went off track but it is important that Democrats emphasize how Godless and self indulging many of these republicans are. Their inhumane actions need to be called out and they need to be held accountable.
out
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)And most of it was confined to Republicans, as far as I know? Have there been revelations that I've missed?
WVreaper
(620 posts)I think of Rand Paul.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)That's just another attempt by RWers to lie, lie, and lie some more.
Don't like being called liars, Ron & cronies? Then stop lying.
Not rocket science.
DFW
(54,384 posts)Allow me!
(well, most of them anyway)
DFW
(54,384 posts)How come Randy Paul didn't once question the results of Wisconsin and Pennsylvania when they were just as narrow and suspect in 2016? Not a peep back then?
SO, how come now? I mean just because the Democrats won and all, that surely had nothing at all to do with it, right?
RIGHT?
Hmmm, on second thought, never mind. We all know the answer to that one.
Kid Berwyn
(14,905 posts)Show me a liar and Ill show Thee a thief.