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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:11 AM Jan 2021

'You're saying we're all liars': Rand Paul melts down on ABC when he's confronted with election lies





Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) became annoyed with an ABC host on Sunday over the suggestion that former President Donald Trump's defenders are all "liars" about the results of the 2020 election.

"This election was not stolen," ABC host Georgia Stephanopoulos began his interview with Paul by noting. "Do you accept that fact?"

Paul, however, refused to respond with a straight answer.

"The debate over whether or not there's fraud should occur," Paul opined. "But, yes, were there people who voted twice? Were there dead people, illegal aliens who voted? Yes. And we should get to the bottom of it." .............(more)

https://www.rawstory.com/rand-paul-election/?




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'You're saying we're all liars': Rand Paul melts down on ABC when he's confronted with election lies (Original Post) marmar Jan 2021 OP
Yes. Girard442 Jan 2021 #1
SSDD 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2021 #2
"The debate over whether or not there's fraud should occur" Shermann Jan 2021 #3
Great word - pettifogging! PatSeg Jan 2021 #61
Ya, they keep pushing the whole debate angle because they know they were lying through their teeth cstanleytech Jan 2021 #68
60+ judges decided there is no need for debate. Nt spooky3 Jan 2021 #106
Ahem...Duh! malaise Jan 2021 #4
gish gallop lie spouting... they are gonna beat this dead whatever till they croak. Fuckers. CurtEastPoint Jan 2021 #5
In the meantime this lie is damaging America. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #14
After decades of purging eligible voters... SergeStorms Jan 2021 #6
They are absolutely shameless PatSeg Jan 2021 #64
Yes, you're all liars Cirque du So-What Jan 2021 #7
+1 pandr32 Jan 2021 #76
I'll Be Fair About That ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #84
Ooooh, all but 15! That's SO much better! Cirque du So-What Jan 2021 #91
Just Trying To Make Randy Happy! ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #94
Yeah, I certainly couldn't condone his neighbor assaulting him... Cirque du So-What Jan 2021 #96
Oh my, you caught on, aqua buddha. Yes, you are. You are also seditious scum. niyad Jan 2021 #8
Why yes Rand, we are calling you and your ilk liars. And you know what, we should get to the bottom tulipsandroses Jan 2021 #9
Yes, you are lying liars. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #10
Thank you, I missed that! True Blue American Jan 2021 #11
It is what it is. we can do it Jan 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #13
The only people caught commiting voter fraud were Trumpers, as far as I know Cetacea Jan 2021 #15
They are liars, because without the lies they have nothing. Chainfire Jan 2021 #16
It isn't very hard to understand why his neighbor Vinnie From Indy Jan 2021 #17
I was just thinking the same thing. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #104
There WAS indeed fraud... MissMillie Jan 2021 #18
I think he doth protest too much!! Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #19
Before the capital riot, I would say that the corruption Javaman Jan 2021 #20
He. Can't. Answer. The. Question. Aussie105 Jan 2021 #21
Not only has he lied previously - he continues to lie and spread the BIG LIE Pachamama Jan 2021 #22
Paul is even lying True Blue American Jan 2021 #23
I normally don't condone violence Rorey Jan 2021 #25
His neighbor beat the shit out of him because Rand was being an asshole over a brush pile. kickitup Jan 2021 #37
Rand Paul was definitely "cruisin' for a bruisin'" with Boucher. oasis Jan 2021 #79
Rand Paul is fucked up in the head Rorey Jan 2021 #24
Ron Johnson for me. Argh he's a monster. LakeArenal Jan 2021 #27
Trouble is, there are so many to pick from. wnylib Jan 2021 #50
Yessss. But hometown assholes seem the worst. LakeArenal Jan 2021 #90
How on earth can you pick ONE? PatSeg Jan 2021 #75
LOL, yeah, it's really the one I happen to be looking at in any given moment Rorey Jan 2021 #95
That must be what it is PatSeg Jan 2021 #114
Give it up old white liar Republican. LakeArenal Jan 2021 #26
Any fraud found has been on part of Republicans Piratedog Jan 2021 #28
Pip squeak, Trump ass-licking traitor. Shut the spigot of Federal dollars off to parasites. Pepsidog Jan 2021 #29
IF The Media Gave A Shit sfstaxprep Jan 2021 #30
Unity with Sociopaths? Ponietz Jan 2021 #31
He is a bald faced liar and still scared shitless of trump spanone Jan 2021 #32
I'm willing to grant that some Republicans aren't liars. intheflow Jan 2021 #33
... some Republicans aren't liars. Mostly, the dead ones ... aggiesal Jan 2021 #67
They don't like being called liars, yet they keep on lying Walleye Jan 2021 #34
WHY is the pos on tv? The propaganda being aired should stop. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #35
This Claire Oh Nette Jan 2021 #63
Exactly Hav Jan 2021 #73
why aren't we investigating rand paul for fraud - i've heard he's voted fraudently. Let's get to the samsingh Jan 2021 #36
Well, right! True Blue American Jan 2021 #99
Why do they let him talk like that? LittleGirl Jan 2021 #38
He's such a loathsome scumbag. BlueStater Jan 2021 #39
Either that or simply confused and uninformed. honest.abe Jan 2021 #40
I really hate when the media lets them on.... Jon King Jan 2021 #41
"If we want greater confidence in our elections" Major Nikon Jan 2021 #42
Trump 2.0 Laha Jan 2021 #43
There are always going to be cases of minor voting irregularities. honest.abe Jan 2021 #44
"Two sides" hahahhahah fuck off Rand. eom scrabblequeen40 Jan 2021 #45
Well, some people think the earth is flat hibbing Jan 2021 #46
Great let's investigate superpatriotman Jan 2021 #47
And why not start in KY, while we're at it. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2021 #51
Ermm.. that would be a yes. ananda Jan 2021 #48
Senator, if you don't think that shoe fits, why is it always on your foot? JHB Jan 2021 #49
Yes, Rand. That's exactly what were saying. paleotn Jan 2021 #52
The producers of 60 Minutes need to expose the election lies. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #53
Wisconsin has a republican led legislation AND a stacked republican supreme court PERIOD! usaf-vet Jan 2021 #54
Giving liars a forum on MSM gives the lies continued legitimacy. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2021 #55
I totally get why his neighbor punched him out. aquamarina Jan 2021 #56
Senator Rand Paul richly deserves to be annoyed at all times. dchill Jan 2021 #57
Fuck you, Rand, you piece of shit. nt Mosby Jan 2021 #58
Liars or deluded. Take your pick. NT Happy Hoosier Jan 2021 #59
Paul: "There are two sides to every story" JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #60
What a loathsome little piece of filth Rand Paul is. Paladin Jan 2021 #62
Rand Paul a picture of courage................NOT!!! cstanleytech Jan 2021 #65
One side says space alien lizards run our government and the other says they don't! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2021 #66
I just don't understand why someone beat the crap out of him. mmbrevo Jan 2021 #69
George...what's so hard about admitting they are liars? Hulk Jan 2021 #70
Claims of fraud require proof dansolo Jan 2021 #71
All of the BIG LIE pols twist themselves into impossible knots trying to play this both ways - NRaleighLiberal Jan 2021 #72
What an infant. kacekwl Jan 2021 #74
YES! You're a filthy LIAR, you dumb bastard! I HATE Rand. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #77
if we had a real news network in this country the big lie of voter fraud would never have gotten yaesu Jan 2021 #78
How are the continued lies and disinformation regarding the legality of our last election any KewlKat Jan 2021 #80
Yes You Are All Liars Rand DanieRains Jan 2021 #81
No. Up until 1/6/21 I called you racist. After that, I'm calling you a fascist. nt Hotler Jan 2021 #82
Well, yes, Senator. We are calling you all liars, but only because are. Lying gets no grace ... marble falls Jan 2021 #83
🤢🤢🤢 I ask "George, could you please invite Democrats on your show, instead of OhNo-Really Jan 2021 #85
Of course you're all liars. lpbk2713 Jan 2021 #86
His most substantial claim was TheFarseer Jan 2021 #87
Every time I hear him speak, I understand why Bettie Jan 2021 #88
All those lawsuits EndlessWire Jan 2021 #89
Not ALL liars, Rand. Just YOU. N/T IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 2021 #92
He must be expelled immediately! citizen blues Jan 2021 #93
I understand clearly why his neighbor attacked him. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #97
I couldn't finish the video. I just get tired of braying Republican voices repeating endlessly lies Nitram Jan 2021 #98
A life long criminal with a R to his name and over 30,000 lies in 5 years lied once more... Lock him up. Jan 2021 #100
sputtter sputt sputt. here we go again. AllaN01Bear Jan 2021 #101
WHAT did Putin retrieve from that GOP server,,, benld74 Jan 2021 #102
I fully understand why his neighbor beat the shit out of him. nt SayItLoud Jan 2021 #103
There's nothing to debate when there is no issue treestar Jan 2021 #105
What a loathsome, lying little shitweasel he is. smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #107
Bugs says it best!! BigBearJohn Jan 2021 #108
3000 county election boards? 50 state certifications? 60 lawsuits? 538 electors vote? 6 January? struggle4progress Jan 2021 #109
'You're saying we're all liars': Rand Paul Jopin Klobe Jan 2021 #110
If the Aqua Buddha fits, then yeah. Politicub Jan 2021 #111
I suggest Paul spend 100% of his time in the remainder of his term investigating his fraud claims. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #112
He should be told to put his money where his mouth is and Jay25 Jan 2021 #113
The "election fraud" this ahole is talking about wouldn't sway the results of a PTA board meeting. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #115
When someone says total piece of bullshit WVreaper Jan 2021 #116
No. We don't debate proven facts. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #117
Stephanopoulos didn't say all Republicans were liars DFW Jan 2021 #118
The one question George didn't ask that I would have: DFW Jan 2021 #119
As the shoe fits, yes. Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #120

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
3. "The debate over whether or not there's fraud should occur"
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:16 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:33 PM - Edit history (1)

This is basically a useless tautology.

The rest is pettifogging that sounds intelligent, but isn't.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
68. Ya, they keep pushing the whole debate angle because they know they were lying through their teeth
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jan 2021

about it being stolen originally and they got caught at it.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
6. After decades of purging eligible voters...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:18 AM
Jan 2021

and making it exhaustively difficult for some voters to participate in elections, the republicans are now worried about the integrity of voting in elections?

Rand Paul is a disgusting human being, and republicans, in general, are the most hypocritical forms of life on the planet.

PatSeg

(47,442 posts)
64. They are absolutely shameless
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jan 2021

They cheat like some people breathe and see nothing wrong with it, as long as THEY are the ones doing it. Then they project that dishonesty to their opponents. I think that political trick has run out of steam already and they don't have the imagination to come up with new ones. Well, maybe they can embrace the lizard people dwelling in the deep state. Or they could retire and let the grownups run the country.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
84. I'll Be Fair About That
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:06 PM
Jan 2021

Not all of them are liars about this.
There are around 15 Rs that refuted the fraud thing.
So yeah Randy, all but 15 of you are liars! Including you!
Is that better, Randy?

Cirque du So-What

(25,939 posts)
91. Ooooh, all but 15! That's SO much better!
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jan 2021


And each of those who refuted the fraud live in fear, not only for their political future but their personal safety and that of their families.

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
9. Why yes Rand, we are calling you and your ilk liars. And you know what, we should get to the bottom
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:20 AM
Jan 2021

of election fraud as you say - the minuscule # of incidents similar to those that you mentioned, happened to be with mostly republican voters. So yes, lets get to the bottom of that fraud as well as the fraud coming from politicians like yourself who perpetrated even bigger fraud. Including the former so called president calling around to put pressure on officials.

Response to marmar (Original post)

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
15. The only people caught commiting voter fraud were Trumpers, as far as I know
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:22 AM
Jan 2021

Why hasn't anyone come out and said that?

MissMillie

(38,559 posts)
18. There WAS indeed fraud...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:23 AM
Jan 2021

The GOP has done everything in their power, over a number of years, to suppress the vote The seats lost in the House are undoubtedly because of this.

This never gets mentioned in these exchanges. Is the press trying to appear unbiased?

Trump lost anyway. (We have heroes like Stacy Abrams to thank for this.)

We KNOW that Mr. tRump formed a task force on voter fraud and was told that it is EXTREMELY rare and didn't affect the 2016 election.

I think I read somewhere that the GWB administration also investigated voter fraud and came up with the same results.

In 2020, ALL 50 Governors and Secretaries of State certified their elections as fair and free from fraud.

So, yeah, Rand Paul... you're a big fat liar.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
20. Before the capital riot, I would say that the corruption
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jan 2021

Among the repukes was systemic. Now I know that a majority of them were complicit in the attempt to destroy democracy

Aussie105

(5,397 posts)
21. He. Can't. Answer. The. Question.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jan 2021

Tells you all you need to know.

It's NOT OK for a grown man to sulk like that.

Other than keeping the hopes of the Deplorables going, what is he trying to do? Look like an idiot? Achieved!

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
22. Not only has he lied previously - he continues to lie and spread the BIG LIE
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:26 AM
Jan 2021

What a treasonous scumbag

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
23. Paul is even lying
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jan 2021

About what George just said. He did not call him a liar he said,” the election was not stolen, that is the lie!”

Wonder why that neighbor went after him?

kickitup

(355 posts)
37. His neighbor beat the shit out of him because Rand was being an asshole over a brush pile.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jan 2021
Then in September 2017, Paul stacked a 10-foot-wide, 5-foot-high pile of limbs and shrubbery clippings just off Boucher’s property line. “Even though this debris was not on Dr. Boucher’s property, he viewed it as unsightly — as it was placed directly in his line of sight from his patio and the back door of his house,” the court filing said.

Boucher finally hauled the lawn detritus to the dump on October 10. But a few days later, Paul allegedly reconstructed the pile of debris in the same spot. Boucher took it away again, only to find more mounds of brush stacked in its place.

Boucher did battle with the pile again on November 2, setting fire to it and sustaining second-degree burns in the process. On November 3, the day of the assault, Paul was blowing leaves onto Boucher property. He was also allegedly rebuilding the stack of branches and yard waste.


https://www.vox.com/2018/6/12/17453976/rand-paul-assault-rene-boucher-neighbors-dispute-pile-of-brush

oasis

(49,387 posts)
79. Rand Paul was definitely "cruisin' for a bruisin'" with Boucher.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:56 PM
Jan 2021

I would of handled the situation without losing my head, but I'd be a not-guilty vote on a jury since Paul deliberately provoked his neighbor.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
24. Rand Paul is fucked up in the head
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:30 AM
Jan 2021

I honestly think that out of all of the repukes that I absolutely hate, he's the one I hate most.

George Stephanopoulos did a good job, except that I think he should have just cut away from the asshole.

PatSeg

(47,442 posts)
75. How on earth can you pick ONE?
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jan 2021

Whenever I say I hate this one the most, three or four more pop in my head. Maybe I should just pick one-a-week!

Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, Louis Gohmert, Ted Cruz, Rick Scott, Mitch McConnell, Tom Cotten, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachman, Sweeter-than-honey Marsha Blackburn, John "No relation" Kennedy, Mo Brooks, Ron Johnson - that's just scratching the surface. Then we have the newbies who could be worse than anything we've confronted so far. There are so many of them, it is unnerving.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
95. LOL, yeah, it's really the one I happen to be looking at in any given moment
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jan 2021

I've gotta throw Lauren Boebert in with your list. I knew she'd be an embarrassment to the state of Colorado, but I didn't think she'd out herself as a traitor so quickly.

PatSeg

(47,442 posts)
114. That must be what it is
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:18 PM
Jan 2021

The one we're looking at in any given moment.

Boebert is almost in a class of her own. She didn't take her time and get a feel for the place like new people often do. She just jumped right in, running her mouth and incriminating herself in pretty much every way possible. Too far-fetched even for an SNL skit, though it will be fun to see how SNL portrays her. That's going to be a challenge.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
26. Give it up old white liar Republican.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jan 2021

We are hip to you and your old white man ways. Liar, circle-jerk answers, traitor.

It all fits you like a condom.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
30. IF The Media Gave A Shit
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:39 AM
Jan 2021

They would simply REFUSE to have these Assholes on their shows, unless they agree to come 100% clean.

Let the Rand Paul's & Ted Cruz's live off Faux News for the remainder of their useless careers.

intheflow

(28,474 posts)
33. I'm willing to grant that some Republicans aren't liars.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jan 2021

Mostly, the dead ones. Rand Paul is most definitely dead in his soul, which makes him a very alive Republican liar.

Also, kudos for Stephanopoulos for not backing down. The press reports facts, two-sides of this story are Biden won and Republicans are lying. There ya go: two sides of the same story.

aggiesal

(8,914 posts)
67. ... some Republicans aren't liars. Mostly, the dead ones ...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:40 PM
Jan 2021


That would make sense because when an (R)'s lips are moving, they are usually lying.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
63. This
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:34 PM
Jan 2021

While I enjoyed watching Rand and Cawthorn lose their shite, I feel it's time to write CBS, ABC, NBC and say stop bringing charlatans and liars on to discuss policy. They add nothing of substance. They spout utter nonsense.

Pamela Brown schooled Cawthorn over his ignorance, left him blinking like a deer in the headlights. Stephanopolous really ought to have shut Rand's mic off. The rude, boorish, talking over and shouting down the host is reminiscent of trying to win by volume.

This bullyboy behavior need to be called out and frozen in its tracks, too.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
73. Exactly
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:46 PM
Jan 2021

This interview did more to fuel the delusions on the right about a stolen election by Paul's deliberate and repeated strawmanning. Everyone who still does that has nothing to offer to a rational exchange and the interview should have ended right there.

George S. was right with his point that there aren't two sides to the fact that the election wasn't stolen but he looked weak because he let Paul bulldoze over him with dishonest arguments. This interview was still giving 80% of the time to conspiracy bs.

samsingh

(17,598 posts)
36. why aren't we investigating rand paul for fraud - i've heard he's voted fraudently. Let's get to the
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:54 AM
Jan 2021

bottom of two sides to that story

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
38. Why do they let him talk like that?
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jan 2021

If Paul hates the media so much, why does he agree to these interviews?
If he wants to pontificate, go somewhere else.
Just answer the f*Ching questions.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
39. He's such a loathsome scumbag.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jan 2021

A police officer was beaten to death by the sort of morons who believe this “dead people voted” bullshit and this curly-haired fuck is still spreading this deranged conspiracy theory. Vile.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
41. I really hate when the media lets them on....
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:58 AM
Jan 2021

At some point just stop, let these guys go on right wing media. Enough with giving them a forum on main stream media. Geez, this is not about tax cuts or same sex marriage....the entire future of the free world depends on beating back these evil monsters.

Stop giving them oxygen. Stephanopoulos and every other main stream media person must think about their kids, grand kids, and the future of the world. Just do not have them on anymore. It is not enough to call out their lies, just letting them on to spew the lies gives them too much credibility.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
42. "If we want greater confidence in our elections"
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:00 PM
Jan 2021

The simple answer is stop feeding your constituency Trump's bullshit.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
44. There are always going to be cases of minor voting irregularities.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:05 PM
Jan 2021

The question is was it intentional, coordinated and widespread and did it benefit either candidate. That has been answered many times in the numerous challenges and lawsuits and answer is a clear no.. and In most cases those who answered this question were Republicans.

The idea that Democrats pulled off some massive election fraud is total nonsense. If we were that good we would have captured more Senate and House seats.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
46. Well, some people think the earth is flat
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:08 PM
Jan 2021

So yeah, there are two sides to every story. They have their taking points down, I didn't hear him use their favorite phrase "ballot harvesting".

Peace

Lonestarblue

(9,990 posts)
53. The producers of 60 Minutes need to expose the election lies.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jan 2021

It is one of the most-watched news programs, and it would be helpful for them to take each swing state’s results and explain any discrepancies found in recounts, essentially Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. For example, I read a couple of weeks ago that a comparison of black votes in Michigan showed voting at only a small increase over 2016, while voting comparisons in the suburbs, many of them white, showed both more voters and more votes for Biden. Trump lost in the suburbs.

A second focus should be the court cases Trump filed and the lack of claims and evidence of fraud. I suspect that many Trump supporters do not know how many losing cases he had, nor what was actually claimed in those cases. Many of them were procedural, not claims of fraud.

Trump’s Big Lie cannot be allowed to stand with millions of people believing it. That lie will just continue to fester and cause more violence.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
54. Wisconsin has a republican led legislation AND a stacked republican supreme court PERIOD!
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:14 PM
Jan 2021

Since the day Scott Walker entered Wisconsin politics, they have bent the power in the state toward republican PERIOD!

If Rand Paul's example of how absentee ballot requirements were changed without the legislator and the courts, then he IS WRONG!

IF there was any possibility for intervention by the legislators or the court, they would have DONE IT! That did not happen; those republican entities didn't just quietly lay down and not act.


The republicans, for years, have used every tactic they could to SUPPRESS voter rights and access. You name a voter suppression scheme, and they have used it in Wisconsin.

One final point Ron Johnson (aka RoJo) is a Wisconsin senator and a tRump supporter. Does Rand Paul think RoJo just laid down without a whimper of course not?

This time the repugs couldn't force their lies down our throats; they have played that card too many times, and the voters know it.

The one thing Rand Paul is right about there are two sides, and this SIDE says in the case of Wisconsin, HE is f***ing WRONG!

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
70. George...what's so hard about admitting they are liars?
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jan 2021

You're never going to get this asshole Aqua Buddha to admit there was no widespread fraud, and the election was valid.

He's not only a liar, but he's a piece of delusional horse shit to boot.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
71. Claims of fraud require proof
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:44 PM
Jan 2021

Put up or shut up. If so much fraud had occurred, it should be easy to prove. And yet Trump's lawyers couldn't or wouldn't provide any proof.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
72. All of the BIG LIE pols twist themselves into impossible knots trying to play this both ways -
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jan 2021

to keep their base, and to try to tell what they really believe.

Until they admit the election was legit, they should be ignored, scorned...and eventually, censured or removed.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
74. What an infant.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jan 2021

Work on fixing the election by ending the electoral college and install paper ballots in every state. Make mail-in voting the norm and have the election held throughout one week. If you are going to "throw out or purge voters " give cause and those voters the right and time to correct any issues that exist. Paul knows they can't win without cheating or lies. Ask Mitch McConnell, he knows.

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
77. YES! You're a filthy LIAR, you dumb bastard! I HATE Rand.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

Every time he opens his mouth, I inevitably wish in my mind his neighbor had better aim.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
78. if we had a real news network in this country the big lie of voter fraud would never have gotten
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

a foothold and would have been a nothing burger from day one.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
80. How are the continued lies and disinformation regarding the legality of our last election any
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:58 PM
Jan 2021

different then the insurgents that stormed the capitol? Should they not all be charged with sedition?

The continued lies spewed by the GOP just enable the insurgents, white supremists, KKK and the ass Drumpf.

marble falls

(57,093 posts)
83. Well, yes, Senator. We are calling you all liars, but only because are. Lying gets no grace ...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jan 2021

... just because it's a political tool for the GOP.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
85. 🤢🤢🤢 I ask "George, could you please invite Democrats on your show, instead of
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jan 2021

Republicants?”

I’m old enough to remember Sunday Show excitement. I stopped watching years ago when Lindsey Graham & Republicants seemed favored as guests.

So much history has been made in this election, so many ceilings shattered and Stephenopolus has crack pot looney toons Rand Paul on? Well 🤮

Feel the same about MSNBC & CNN.
AM Becky Anderson is great as is Amanpour at noon MST. Both offer both National & Global news mostly unbiased.

Our country is in so many crisis.

All networks should be helping to educate & help with the heavy lifting.

Are corporate tax breaks preventing TV networks & cable news from joining in the battles we must win to remain a Republic?

And it’s important to take your Vitamin D in the morning with some fat in your breakfast.

The more over weight you are, the higher the dose. Vitamin D can disrupt melatonin & sleep.

Rand Paul the Sunday after Joe Biden & Kamala Harris are inaugurated?

What the actual bloody hell!

And who doesn’t miss the Friday Night investigative journalism like Bill Moyers & David Broncachio.

Apologies spelling.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
86. Of course you're all liars.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:12 PM
Jan 2021


Don't be silly. It's understood that you are all liars. You have that (R) at the end of your names.

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
87. His most substantial claim was
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:13 PM
Jan 2021

In Wisconsin there were tens of thousands of ballots that were signed but the voters didn't put their address on the ballot and they were counted anyway. This was the first time this was done.

I looked into the reality of this. In fact it was not the voter but the witness where the address was missing. According to the law they can have the witness come in and put the address on or verify the address and the poll worker can put it on. This was also the law in 2016 when no one had a problem with it and it was voted into law by the republican legislature. There is no evidence this procedure was not followed. Given this, I'm not sure what the issue is.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
88. Every time I hear him speak, I understand why
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jan 2021

his neighbor attacked him.

Imagine living next to this walking pile of feces.

EndlessWire

(6,531 posts)
89. All those lawsuits
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jan 2021

That was the time to present evidence. And, standing is something easily determined, and that's too bad. It just didn't go your way.

But, at least we know. Rand plans to investigate this matter for two more years. The people who voted for his sorry ass will miss out because he will be busy looking after Trump's interests and not theirs. He plans to make this a platform to run on when the time comes?

Someone needs to tell him that Trump lost, he's gone, and he ain't coming back. Better for him to vote for impeachment, to secure his own safety.

I smell a rat. Someone stirring the pot...

citizen blues

(570 posts)
93. He must be expelled immediately!
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jan 2021

He supports authoritarianism and does not support our government at all!

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
98. I couldn't finish the video. I just get tired of braying Republican voices repeating endlessly lies
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jan 2021

and refusing to face the facts. Yes Rand Paul, you are a liar. For one, you kept repeating that the interviewer was claiming there "was no fraud" in spite of his stating repeatedly that, yes, there is some fraud in every election, but the Trump AG and the Justice Apartment investigated and reported there "was no widespread fraud" and the election was properly certified by every state.

Lock him up.

(6,929 posts)
100. A life long criminal with a R to his name and over 30,000 lies in 5 years lied once more...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jan 2021
with his BIG lie he always resorts to when he loses, and all these incompetent Rs like that one started to repeat it because they R scared sh!tless of his violent MOB.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
105. There's nothing to debate when there is no issue
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:08 PM
Jan 2021

Asshole, maybe we could debate whether he is a killer or not. Then he can see the uselessness. Conservatives never do until it is them.

We'll just talk about the possibility that he might be a killer - there is as much evidence for that as for election fraud in this election. If a debate can be made by creating a side out of thin air, then that debate should be had too.

The debate about whether or not he is an idiot has already been settled.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
107. What a loathsome, lying little shitweasel he is.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:11 PM
Jan 2021

I CAN'T STAND that obnoxious little punk. He has to be one of the most punchable members of congress. And I am being nice by using the word "punchable".

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
112. I suggest Paul spend 100% of his time in the remainder of his term investigating his fraud claims.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jan 2021

We want a detailed written report, asshole.

Upon looking at any Randy Paul photo for more than 2-seconds:....


KY..............

Jay25

(417 posts)
113. He should be told to put his money where his mouth is and
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:11 PM
Jan 2021

show proof or give up your seat. These guys are trying to cast doubt amongst the public, Democrats are going to have to fight fire with fire. Call them out for their undying support of Trumps continuous abhorrent actions these 4 years and their support of crimes against humanity.

Republicans wasted millions on Benghazi, disparaged and slandered legitimate election results, and now have the audacity to cite ‘fear’ of Trump supporters when it comes to impeaching Trump. When it came to ripping children, including infants from their parents, republicans said and did nothing.

When it was publicized that thousands of immigrant children were missing, nothing but crickets were heard from republicans. Not one damn dime was allotted to finding these children, no repercussions for those involved, and to this day, no accounting of who they were and what happened to them.

I know that I went off track but it is important that Democrats emphasize how Godless and self indulging many of these republicans are. Their inhumane actions need to be called out and they need to be held accountable.

out

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
115. The "election fraud" this ahole is talking about wouldn't sway the results of a PTA board meeting.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 06:57 PM
Jan 2021

And most of it was confined to Republicans, as far as I know? Have there been revelations that I've missed?

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
117. No. We don't debate proven facts.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:30 AM
Jan 2021

That's just another attempt by RWers to lie, lie, and lie some more.

Don't like being called liars, Ron & cronies? Then stop lying.

Not rocket science.

DFW

(54,384 posts)
119. The one question George didn't ask that I would have:
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 07:19 AM
Jan 2021

How come Randy Paul didn't once question the results of Wisconsin and Pennsylvania when they were just as narrow and suspect in 2016? Not a peep back then?

SO, how come now? I mean just because the Democrats won and all, that surely had nothing at all to do with it, right?

RIGHT?

Hmmm, on second thought, never mind. We all know the answer to that one.

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