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Nevilledog

(51,112 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 12:49 PM Jan 2021

Josh Hawley was an early defender of the Oklahoma City bombing...



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Incredible read. Josh Hawley was an early defender of the Oklahoma City bombing, and characterized it as a legitimate war of ideas btwn USG & militias

‘Bamboozled.’ Hawley mentors stunned by conduct, but early warning signs were there
‘It’s just his ambition, I think. You know, it’s just simply the ambition,’ Hawley’s middle school principal said.
amp.kansascity.com
8:27 AM · Jan 24, 2021


https://amp.kansascity.com/news/local/article248663695.html

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Josh Hawley was an early defender of the Oklahoma City bombing... (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2021 OP
Hawley is a Fascist ass,... magicarpet Jan 2021 #1
These Nazi frat- boys think it is all a joke. magicarpet Jan 2021 #2
It really angers and frustrate me to see the ridiculousness of this being rationalized Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #3
A legitimate war of ideas? Did those 19 babies have ammunition Boomerproud Jan 2021 #4
More, please. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2021 #5
This is obviously a smart man....... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #6
From reading the Karma13612 Jan 2021 #13
yes, they might not want trump anymore but they want the trumpers IcyPeas Jan 2021 #16
Stop reading my mind!!! Those were pretty much my exact words! Karadeniz Jan 2021 #17
Hey! You know the saying...... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #19
smart enough to know people are stupid enough to listen to him mdbl Jan 2021 #30
Yep! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #31
Yep grantcart Jan 2021 #33
Correct, he's as evil as Trump but much smarter IronLionZion Jan 2021 #35
Would maybe have helped to mention this sooner superpatriotman Jan 2021 #7
They knew. Of course. Everything there was to find out. Hortensis Jan 2021 #27
Supporting bombings Karma13612 Jan 2021 #8
The "bamboozled mentors" need to do something to correct what they've done. gulliver Jan 2021 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #10
Hmm...morally bankrupt at 15. moondust Jan 2021 #11
Well, Karma13612 Jan 2021 #12
A racist, fascist scumbag all his life dalton99a Jan 2021 #14
Hawley's argument is thus: "Just because those Nazi's killed your family doesn't mean ALL Nazis are TeamPooka Jan 2021 #15
Precisely. dalton99a Jan 2021 #18
Article is behind paywall? n/t thesquanderer Jan 2021 #20
Subscriber-only content. Somebody please supply more paragraphs? Hekate Jan 2021 #21
Yes, it's frustrating to have so little information. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #26
Here's MSN's reporting on the Kansas City Star's. Hortensis Jan 2021 #28
Thanks! Much appreciated Hekate Jan 2021 #29
It takes a "special person" MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #32
Another Lincoln Project ad coming right up, I hope. nt Hekate Jan 2021 #22
So does this mean he pals around with terrorists? Stinky The Clown Jan 2021 #23
Well, since he is one....... Nevilledog Jan 2021 #24
Sociopath with a pro-lifer's callous disregard for human life. /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #25
I think we should be glad that Trump didn't get to put him on SCOTUS. flying_wahini Jan 2021 #34

magicarpet

(14,154 posts)
1. Hawley is a Fascist ass,...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jan 2021

Criminally ambitious,....

Criminal opportunist.

Not the right kind of timber for the US Senate or god forbid the White House.

He must be expelled - to serve as an example that the overthrow of our government is not honoring his oath to protect and defend the US Constitution.

Senator Cruz should likewise be permanently expelled from government service in perpetuity and lose his rights to practice law.

magicarpet

(14,154 posts)
2. These Nazi frat- boys think it is all a joke.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jan 2021

Grow up,.. it is long past time to act as a responsible adult. Expelling them will serve as a warning to others that accountability to your oath to serve public office is a serious matter. Many seem oblivious to that fact.

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
3. It really angers and frustrate me to see the ridiculousness of this being rationalized
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jan 2021

Bc if this was a person of color stating that, they would be crucified. And here a young white man saying the most despicable things and someone somewhere has to go and make lame AF excuses. We need to be better than this. We need to hold people accountable.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
6. This is obviously a smart man.......
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jan 2021

and I'm wondering if he isn't the one we've been warned about: the "next" one who is evil like Trump - only smarter.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
13. From reading the
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:56 PM
Jan 2021

Article included in this thread, I would say you could be right.

At least he should be at the top of any potential list of “stay away from these dangerous politicians”.

I noticed a high school picture with Hawley in the first row, dead center. He is the person your eyes are drawn to immediately. That was no accident, I can assure you.

IcyPeas

(21,884 posts)
16. yes, they might not want trump anymore but they want the trumpers
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jan 2021

they want to keep the mobs of jackasses.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
35. Correct, he's as evil as Trump but much smarter
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 09:24 AM
Jan 2021

so he's much more dangerous. I wish our country could go through a de-naziification process like Germany after WWII. We don't want MAGAland supporting this fascist asshole next.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. They knew. Of course. Everything there was to find out.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jan 2021

Senate campaigns don't cost millions of dollars these days because yard signs and gasoline are more expensive.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
8. Supporting bombings
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jan 2021

As a means of expressing political viewpoints is now considered

AMBITIOUS?

No, just no.

gulliver

(13,181 posts)
9. The "bamboozled mentors" need to do something to correct what they've done.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:30 PM
Jan 2021

Hawley was raising his fist to his own. Imagine how comforting it is to the Republican fringe broken units to have a sitting U.S. Senator in their clan. Jack Danforth is not getting any younger. He needs to make his anti-Hawley ad right away.

Response to gulliver (Reply #9)

moondust

(19,986 posts)
11. Hmm...morally bankrupt at 15.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 02:47 PM
Jan 2021

And never recovered. Father was a banker and mother an anti-abortion nut probably explains a lot about this basket case.

~
...he signed her eighth grade yearbook “Josh Hawley, president 2024.”

It’s the same yearbook where she and Hawley were among four eighth-graders given the title “Future President.”
~
Hawley’s middle school principal, Barbara Weibling, said she thought Hawley’s parents, banking executive Ronald Hawley and Virginia Hawley, were grooming their son for a future in politics.
~
...she viewed him as a person who had never been told “no” as a child...

Never disciplined so never learned right from wrong.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
12. Well,
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jan 2021

According to the linked article, at least one person in his past had him pegged.

She said she wouldn’t even vote for him for dog catcher. And another person said it was obvious he was never told “no” as a child growing up.

We just had a president for 4 years who many warned us about.

I hope we have learned our lesson to listen to people who have knowledge of ‘future presidential hopefuls”. If they say the person is a bad apple, BELIEVE THEM.

In many ways, this reminds me of the adage for women regarding dating men, hoping for marriage. If the guy tells you he doesn’t want to get involved, BELIEVE HIM.

TeamPooka

(24,228 posts)
15. Hawley's argument is thus: "Just because those Nazi's killed your family doesn't mean ALL Nazis are
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 06:05 PM
Jan 2021

bad."

Hekate

(90,706 posts)
21. Subscriber-only content. Somebody please supply more paragraphs?
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jan 2021

Who the hell ever defended the Oklahoma City bombing? All those little babies at the day-care center, just shredded... Jesus Christ on a Trailer Hitch. This is a new low to abyssal depths.


Lonestarblue

(9,998 posts)
26. Yes, it's frustrating to have so little information.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:00 PM
Jan 2021

Especially Hawley’s specific words about the Oklahoma City bombing.

I understand the media’s need to monetize their online news, but many sites allow for 2-3 free reads per month. This site seems to allow none unless you subscribe.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Here's MSN's reporting on the Kansas City Star's.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:37 PM
Jan 2021

He wrote this as most of the nation was teared up over the picture of the dead toddler carried out by a weeping fireman.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-sen-josh-hawley-wrote-a-column-in-defense-of-the-oklahoma-city-bomber-when-he-was-15/ar-BB1d51nG?ocid=st

Republican Sen. Josh Hawley, who backed former President Donald Trump's voter-fraud claims following the 2020 election, defended militia members in a column after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, when he was 15 years old, The Kansas City Star reported. The Star reported that following the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, Hawley wrote a column for his hometown paper, The Lexington News, in which he warned against calling antigovernment militia members domestic terrorists. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, the men who carried out the bombing that killed 168 people, had ties to the Michigan Militia, an antigovernment group dating back to the 1990s.

"Many of the people populating these movements are not radical, right-wing, pro-assault weapons freaks as they were originally stereotyped," Hawley wrote of militia groups. "Dismissed by the media and treated with disdain by their elected leaders, these citizens come together and form groups that often draw more media fire as anti-government hate gatherings."

He added: "Feeling alienated from their government and the rest of society, they often become disenchanted and slip into talks of 'conspiracy theories' about how the federal government is out to get them."

Also in the column, Hawley said Mark Fuhrman, the Los Angeles police detective whose use of racial slurs became known during OJ Simpson's trial, was being unfairly depicted as a racist. "In this politically correct society, derogatory labels such as 'racist' are widely misused, and our ability to have open debate is eroding," he wrote.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
32. It takes a "special person"
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:34 PM
Jan 2021

to stand up in defense of people identified in our society as "evil" and claim that they "deserve" the ability to have "open debate."

I guess we should have a pretty good idea as to how this "Senator" is going to be voting as to the "innocence" or "guilt" of the 'INCITOR-IN-CHIEF'........

And perhaps every bit as disgusting is the others that will vote with him.



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