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She believes the Earth is flat. He believes it's round. Can they find common ground? (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Jan 2021 OP
The questions we should be asking... Salviati Jan 2021 #1
This is exactly correct Blecht Jan 2021 #7
Quite accurate assessment. triron Jan 2021 #13
From Marc Elias Gothmog Jan 2021 #2
Haha! Thanks! Bleacher Creature Jan 2021 #19
Thank you for this, I would never have found & read that article irisblue Jan 2021 #3
2+2, flat earth? I have an older brother that believes Arne Jan 2021 #4
Evangelical churches and QAnon are cons to separate money from fools. yardwork Jan 2021 #8
"Boy that image really gets you off, doesn't it?" Is exactly what Maru Kitteh Jan 2021 #20
Another she wants to provide him with healthcare; he wants to behead her on livestreamed tv. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #5
A good compromise might be a cube or a football dalton99a Jan 2021 #6
turtles... all the way up Bucky Jan 2021 #9
I doubt I'd have the patience for this kind of exercise Silent3 Jan 2021 #10
Some flat earthers never recover. moondust Jan 2021 #11
It just shows that the issue isn't accessible at a rational level. gulliver Jan 2021 #12
I believe most people who believe the world is flat will change their view with reasoned Doodley Jan 2021 #14
Concave? jeffreyi Jan 2021 #15
It all depends on the quality of the sex. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #16
You can "compromise" but it doesn't make the earth any less round. Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #17
I'd have to find a good divorce lawyer. I couldn't live with a Trumper. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #18
Same. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #25
You dodged a bullet. Good for you! NurseJackie Jan 2021 #26
Bugs Bunny settled this argument decades ago meow2u3 Jan 2021 #21
She is a paralegal investigator for a government contractor, and she's almost QAnon-believing? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2021 #22
I know! drmeow Jan 2021 #27
Each give a little. Compromize. It's oblong. UncleNoel Jan 2021 #23
Sure, if he doesn't mind living w/an idiot who will slowly stupify all his other thoughts and views TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 #24
The fact that the AP never says drmeow Jan 2021 #28
What the hell is up with this flat earth crap? nam78_two Jan 2021 #29

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
1. The questions we should be asking...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jan 2021

... are not about trying to understand what they are thinking or whether we can come to common ground. These are not questions one should ask about delusional people. The questions responsible news media should be asking are: How can we deprogram the deluded cult members that can be saved from their lunacy, and how do we minimize the harm that those who cannot be saved can do.

Arne

(2,014 posts)
4. 2+2, flat earth? I have an older brother that believes
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jan 2021

Satan is whipping Hillary as she drinks baby blood.

I can't ever speak to him again.
They have a beautiful talented educated family
but they are completely brain washed.

I blame Hannity, and their church.

yardwork

(61,620 posts)
8. Evangelical churches and QAnon are cons to separate money from fools.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:26 PM
Jan 2021

We need to start calling this out.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
20. "Boy that image really gets you off, doesn't it?" Is exactly what
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:03 PM
Jan 2021

I would say to your brother.

Shame them.



Silent3

(15,212 posts)
10. I doubt I'd have the patience for this kind of exercise
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:35 PM
Jan 2021

On occasion I might actually enjoy the challenge of arguing with one of these nutcases, but not time and time again with the same one, and it's hard to imagine feeling friendly after all of that.

moondust

(19,984 posts)
11. Some flat earthers never recover.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:39 PM
Jan 2021
~
...today, there remain people who still believe that the Earth is flat, despite centuries of evidence proving the contrary.
~
How to debate a flat-Earther

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
12. It just shows that the issue isn't accessible at a rational level.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jan 2021

In rhetoric, if I recall correctly, you have to persuade people. But the very first message you need to get across is that you respect the audience and have their best interest in mind as your primary goal. You can't sell even 2+2=4 if you don't show it's going to make your audience more content, more enlivened, more moved.

Our story has to be a lot more than 2+2=4. Facts are just "the inch that won't be given" if the real story is about struggle for lifestyle, a far less tractable subject, but the actual subject.

Doodley

(9,092 posts)
14. I believe most people who believe the world is flat will change their view with reasoned
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jan 2021

argument. She needs to meet the right person who can make that argument, and there are millions of them.

Vivienne235729

(3,384 posts)
17. You can "compromise" but it doesn't make the earth any less round.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:49 PM
Jan 2021

People that think it is flat need to be educated. They can believe what they want, but we can’t be ruled by opinions. We need to be ruled by facts and reality.

Turin_C3PO

(13,991 posts)
25. Same.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 11:37 AM
Jan 2021

I went on a few dates with a woman who seemed nice and we were clicking but on the fifth date she expressed admiration for Trump and his family separation policy. Date over, phone number deleted.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. You dodged a bullet. Good for you!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 01:02 PM
Jan 2021

I just can't figure out how those types of marriages would work. Unless: politics are NEVER discussed (but even with a forced truce, I'd know what an awful person they are). Or... maybe they like to fight about it... their entire LIFE is a non-stop Twitter-feud (and they enjoy it!)

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
22. She is a paralegal investigator for a government contractor, and she's almost QAnon-believing?
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 11:23 AM
Jan 2021

Jesus, I hate to think what she produces at work.

"Paranormal investigator" would be closer to the mark.

drmeow

(5,018 posts)
28. The fact that the AP never says
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:59 PM
Jan 2021

that Fox and OAN are outright lying to these people is part of the problem. I can find common ground with traditional conservatives. I can't find common ground with people who have been brainwashed into a cult by greedy, selfish, fascist, evil f**ks who don't care one bit about them.

nam78_two

(14,529 posts)
29. What the hell is up with this flat earth crap?
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jan 2021

15 years ago it was mostly the theory of evolution that was under attack. And some comic (probably Bill Maher) said, "What's next? Gravity?"

Fast fwd 15 years and now it is this flat earth thing. And that is probably the tip of the iceberg wrt drivel spread via FB, youtube etc.
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