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captain queeg

(10,207 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:25 PM Jan 2021

The world is watching. I think many are willing to move on and restore the US to its previous place

In the world. After we deal with the trumpian disaster. If we don’t we won’t be the shining example we once were. We’ve never been perfect but generally we’re a good example for others. If we don’t clean house we’ll never restore confidence, we’d show that the last 4 years were no aberration.

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The world is watching. I think many are willing to move on and restore the US to its previous place (Original Post) captain queeg Jan 2021 OP
I absolutely disagree. The EU is over our nonsense. They will work with us, but they will Squinch Jan 2021 #1
Yeah, no way they just overnight invite us back in the club... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #2
Inability to reme "it" speaks loudly SheltieLover Jan 2021 #6
This is correct. The EU can never trust or rely on us again. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #4
Showing the world out govt had no way to remove a traitor SheltieLover Jan 2021 #3
You can never go back to the place you were before. Chainfire Jan 2021 #5
I don't want the U.S. in any previous place. I want the new, improved place or else we've wasted a abqtommy Jan 2021 #7

Squinch

(50,954 posts)
1. I absolutely disagree. The EU is over our nonsense. They will work with us, but they will
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:27 PM
Jan 2021

not trust us for generations, and they will not allow themselves to depend on us as they once did.

China is much more influential than they ever were, and they got there by filling the vacuum we left. They are not about to abandon that position. Russia has owned us. The world knows this.

Our standing in the world has experienced untold damage. It will not be fixed easily.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
2. Yeah, no way they just overnight invite us back in the club...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:30 PM
Jan 2021

We (collectively) fucked up and they know it.

Irish_Dem

(47,119 posts)
4. This is correct. The EU can never trust or rely on us again.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jan 2021

Even with Biden in the WH now, they know the crazy people are still in congress and will be in the WH again.
They have accepted that they must make their own way in the world without the US.

Our superpower status is in sharp decline.
China will become the next superpower.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. Showing the world out govt had no way to remove a traitor
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:33 PM
Jan 2021

AND that his rabid followers are still seated in Congress does not instill confidence in our previous allies' eyes.

They trust Joe & his team, but what will happen in 4 yrs when repukes try to steal another election?

Ask Syria.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
5. You can never go back to the place you were before.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 04:34 PM
Jan 2021

We have shown, and continue to show a serious weakness and division that is liable to bring us another Trump in the near future. President Biden can move us forward, but everyone will be waiting for the other shoe to drop. That is one additional burden of Biden's term, as if he didn't have enough on his plate already.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
7. I don't want the U.S. in any previous place. I want the new, improved place or else we've wasted a
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 05:31 PM
Jan 2021

lot of time and energy.

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