Trump's Patriot Party

[SpankMe]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9180909/Trump-drafting-enemies-list-Republicans-Patriot-Party-challenge-primaries.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

I hope it comes to pass and gets stronger. It would split the conservative vote and increase Democratic wins almost anywhere. Perhaps dramatically.

[soothsayer]

1. So far it's a threat... and a pac, maybe

[struggle4progress]

2. "Be a Porta Partiot!"

[uponit7771]

4. lol

[Celerity]

28. it's a real shitter

[empedocles]

3. We could sure use that help - and trump has been so helpful in the past.

Especially these past 4 critical months.

[BlueIdaho]

5. We want to make the Republican Party small enough

To drown in a bathtub. This should help.

[TexasLefty29]

8. +1. Nt

[PCIntern]

12. I like that....

A lot!
Brings back memories.
Thanks!

[FakeNoose]

25. Or even a toilet ...

This has been my favorite gif to describe the GOP since 2018.

[Iliyah]

6. Sounds like another con cha ching bullshit . . ..

The organization and tons of money needed may be there for the short run and that's it. shithole steals.

Also the republican party is fracture and I think majority of the members will remain in said party.

[TexasLefty29]

7. Wow.

Why didn’t I realize that? Of course it will split the vote.
I support those idiots continuing their idiocy.
Well thought. Well said.

[Irish_Dem]

9. If the GOP fractures badly, they will try to do the same to Dems. We must stay strong.

It will be one of their only options left.
Besides cheating.

Divide and conquer like the Romans.
The Dems must hold. Period.

[brooklynite]

11. They already have Nina Turner and her "People's Party" for that

Neither one is going to have a big impact.

[Irish_Dem]

14. We have some vulnerable spots and they will press hard on them.

To be forewarned is to be forearmed.
We need to be aware of this possibility.

If they succeed in harming the Dem party, my heart will be broken.

[OnDoutside]

13. They must but there is a potential issue building up by those on the far left

who are livid that Never Trumpers are being accepted by mainstream Dems. It's largely below the surface but it is something to be wary of as the reality dawns at what is a precarious Congress position.

[Irish_Dem]

15. You have nailed one of my major worries.

If the R refugees push the party right, the progressives will feel alienated.
We will also have the GOP deliberately provoking trouble to divide and conquer.

I sure hope Dem strategists will think about all of this ahead of time.

We have no wiggle room in terms of congressional control.

I think this is one reason Biden is going big and progressive.
He is has to make sure his party is unified. That is more important than unity with the GOP.

[OnDoutside]

17. As you may have seen even here from the usual posters, they

have been attacking TLP frequently, and it's clear it's the topic du jour in the far left ecosystem. At a point where they have pushed the Democratic Party in their direction, you have disaffected Repugs potentially looking for a new home, leaving a fight on the medium term horizon. I would be concerned about the House races in 2022 particularly. I really hope I'm wrong as there is too much at stake.

[Irish_Dem]

18. I hope I am wrong too.

But as I said, there is is no wiggle room and as you say, there is too much at stake not to at least consider this potential problem.

I love the TLP for their brilliant PR campaign against Trump, but I am not sure I trust them. And I am wary of them entering the party. So I have mixed feelings about them.

But yes I have been feeling the conflict possibly brewing. It was already there before, and now the disaffected Rs looking for a party could bring it out in the open. The failing GOP will jump on any weakness and make it worse.

We can see Biden is going left and going big. Perhaps he is trying to head off the problems we are concerned about.

We are seeing a huge shift in American politics, the GOP split in two or ending altogether. How will this impact the Dem party?
The GOP is exploding, will some of the shrapnel hit the Dems, and bring their own fault lines to the surface?

[OnDoutside]

19. Some are coming into the party, some are going independent and

some are staying in the GOP. I suspect most will go independent and vote Democratic where the Republican alternative is a whacko, which will likely be a lot for the next few cycles.

If the races below the Presidential showed anything, it's that Democrats still have a narrow channel to squeeze through, and people vote on feelings rather than policy.

The most important thing is that Democrats stay focused on the prize of bringing genuine (progressive) change to the lives of all Americans, but they need to be relentless in fight.

[Irish_Dem]

21. If Liz Cheney can hold her own, there might be a viable GOP left.

Right now she seems to be fighting by herself. However, there is rumored to be a big chunk of GOP MOC who are on her side but too afraid to speak out. So yes some will stay in the GOP.

Others will go independent and caucus with the Dems. Others like Steve Schmidt with become Dem.

People tend to vote with their feelings I think. Even when it comes to policy, it is an emotional thing usually?

I think there is universal agreement that Biden must bring home the bacon. There must be real change that impacts the lives of all.
And it cannot just be a case of going back to the old normal. We must be in better shape than before.

I don't think the American people can keep going like we have been for much longer. It has been an awful year on so many levels.
There needs to be some immediate gratification for us to hang on.

[OnDoutside]

22. She might lose the no 3 spot in leadership but if they come for her

and don't take her out then she will have enhanced power and a base with which to rally around her. If they do take her out, she's supposedly safe for reelection, so she can snipe away anyway.

[Irish_Dem]

27. Liz C seems quite confident that they cannot take her down. Maybe she has some secret power holding

her up. Maybe Daddy's Washington power base, I don't know. But yes she is safe in Wyoming I would think.
Unless Trump tries to primary her. However, Trump is going to be increasingly distracted by his legal and financial woes soon.

I would think McConnell would back Liz C behind the scenes.

I would give anything to be a fly on the wall in McConnell's office. What must be going through his mind.
He has been hell bent on power and money for decades. And now he sees the party fracturing in front of him.
He hates Trump.

The centrist GOP has nothing to lose right now. If they were smart I would think they would start leading and stop being afraid of Trump.
Start telling the truth, start leading, start helping the American people. Anoint Liz as the next presidential hopeful with Romney or
Murkowski. Try to salvage as much of the party as they can. Purge the whackos out.

I think it is their only chance.

In the meantime the Dems need to pay attention to the concerns as we outlined.

[roamer65]

20. I don't see it happening on the Democratic side.

We are much more flexible.

[Irish_Dem]

23. One thing we have learned, everything is much more fragile than we realized.

And we have some significant fault lines which could be used by the GOP to harm us.

I hope I am wrong.

My heart will be broken if anything happens to us.

[roamer65]

24. The Capitol attack strengthened our resolve for democracy.

The Democratic Party is now the party of democracy.

The only way the Democratic Party will falter now is if the country itself comes apart.

[OnDoutside]

10. The best solution is if it inhabits the GOP like the Tea Party, which

is more than likely because they're too incompetent to start their own.

[CanonRay]

16. It's just Trump bullshit

Trying to keep his power in the GOP and keep the Senate in line to acquit him in impeac.

[TheBlackAdder]

26. He's just trying to shakedown a tax amnesty or waiver, a few hundred million and other 'gifts'.