Howard Dean says DeJoy CAN be fired:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

[intrepidity]

1. So true, so important nt

[JI7]

2. Yes, if they refuse to get rid of him and Biden has power to fire them

he should do it.

[empedocles]

3. How about being indicted?

[WA-03 Democrat]

4. I agree with Dr. Dean

Dejoy is causing real harm to our democracy. Fire the bastard. I miss the post office! UPS is 8X more expense.

[soothsayer]

5. Me too

Do it!

[FakeNoose]

6. K & R This is big!

Thank you Howard Dean.

[scarletwoman]

7. Okay, great tweet - but has he said this directly to Biden?

I mean, it's nice to know this, but none of us is in a position to do anything about it.

Do we know whether Howard Dean has contacts in the Biden Administration?

[Karadeniz]

8. I'm fine with that viewpoint!

[malaise]

9. Where are the sorters he removed?

That's my first question

[TexasBushwhacker]

34. Probably at the metal recyclers n/t

[Dan]

10. Incompetence or criminal negligence.....

[groundloop]

21. More than likely both.

[Hekate]

53. Neither incompetent nor negligent. It was 100% deliberate & designed to destroy the P.O. nt

[lagomorph777]

78. Yup - criminal prosecution is definitely needed here.

[IronLionZion]

11. Time for Dems to play hardball

the board of governors is full of Trump's cronies plus just 1 Democrat. What they've done to the postal service this year is just plain unacceptable. During this pandemic is when people needed the postal service the most and these assholes deliberately kneecapped it.

[Cha]

12. Rt TY! I'm sure the Biden Team is

paying attention.. I hope this HAPPENS!

[Midnight Writer]

13. Exactly. He can be removed immediately. The catch is he can appeal his termination.

An appeal can take years. And even if DeJoy wins, the Administration should just fire him again.

Start the process over again.

Trump showed us the way.

[yonder]

32. Yep. The tRump rule. Deny, debase, delay, repeat.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

67. Yep. I am so sick of Rs doing whatever the fck they want

and getting away with 90% of it, while Dems seem constrained from doing 90% of what they'd like to do.

And the stuff D's want to do is always better for far more people than the crap Rs are always pulling.

[SheltieLover]

14. K&R!

[2naSalit]

15. K&R

[dem4decades]

16. Fire him? Shit I want him brought up on charges of fucking with the election.

[List left]

38. this nt

[OMGWTF]

55. x 1,000,000

[niyad]

17. I want delouse to have to pay for OUR equipment that he ordered removed and destroyed.

Can we charge him with theft?

[Rebl2]

50. Yes I hope so!

He had perfectly good processing equipment taken out and ordered it destroyed for no reason. He should be fired and charged with destruction of federal property and stupidity if that was a crime.
My husband worked on those machines for many years. (Thankfully he’s retired). There were times these machines were broken down and moved to other post offices that needed a machine. Not once do I remember they took them and just destroyed them.

[Marcuse]

79. He had a reason.

[Jay25]

18. Sounds good to me.

[dalton99a]

19. Kick

[Blue Owl]

20. DO IT.

NOW.

[bucolic_frolic]

22. They should be fired just for the box car rate increases of the last 4 years

Must have outstripped inflation by about 40%

[Irish_Dem]

23. Didn't they commit crimes? Destroying government property.

Criminal behavior certainly cannot be protected by civil service law.

[uponit7771]

27. +1, it can be argued that they did it to affect an election or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN it would

... affect an election.

Then, we never know who from the top was pushing these buttons, at minimum we deserve an HUGE investigation.

[Irish_Dem]

33. We know it was done to hurt Dem turnout.

Obstruction of the election process.

[BComplex]

24. I love Howard Dean.

If he hadn't been sabotaged by right wing media, he might have been our president when he would have made a HUGE difference in this country.

[BarbD]

60. Dr. Dean did make a huge difference by his 50 state strategy for Obama.

After the media exploited the so-called "scream" which was just him trying to speak above the crowd noise, he encouraged all of us in the Vermont Democratic Party to work harder. The result was Obama in 2008.

[AmyStrange]

66. +100000000000000000000000000000000 x infinity

[Traildogbob]

25. Deterioration!!!

I got my auto insurance bill of December 29th, due January 6th. I mailed the bill December 30th, carbon check dated as will as statement stub dated. I got a letter from Insurance yesterday stating my insurance lapsed and needed a request and two payments to renew. My bank account showed check was processed Jan 20. Mail took 21 days. So DeJoy cost me lapsed insurance coverage and a $15.00 late charge. I did get ahold of the insurance company Daturdsy, on hold 45 minutes. I’ve been with them 20 years with auto and home and my daughter’s car and home. Never missed a payment, never late, never filed a claim. Arrogant rep would not drop late charge. Said I needed to find a more reliable way to pay my bill. Pay in person of get certified mail. How would senior disabled person do that, in pandemic? I asked with this mail mess what if I get statements late after bill is due. She said that’s not their issue. I will be insurance shopping tomorrow. If you have Travelers, tell em fuck you.

[yonder]

35. You're doing the right thing there, IMO.

I'm sick of that shit as well. We're about ready to make that leap too.

[NJCher]

64. that's crummy

I've have incidents, too, and every one of the people I called was sympathetic and erased any charges.

I think this rep may have been out of line. I'd call again and see how far you can get with another rep. One rep does not necessarily reflect the company's outlook. Generally companies know how much it costs to get a new customer and in cases like this, know it's a lower cost to waive any fees than it is to replace you as a customer.

[Karma13612]

69. State Farm

We pay online.

We have home and auto.

Easy Pease and they are a JOY to work with.

[True Blue American]

74. Please consider Direct Pay

Before you change. So much a month. State Farm gave a 11% reduction starting in January because of people not driving.

[OnDoutside]

26. It looks like there are 4 governor seats open currently. If those 4

are filled with Dems, they would have a 5 to 4 majority, and can then go after DeJoy.

[rzemanfl]

30. I think you are correct. n/t

[OnDoutside]

31. The only issue is that they Dems may need to remove the republican

chairman before proceeding to fire DeJoy, and I don't know if that is possible during his term.

[rzemanfl]

37. I didn't see anything special about the Chairman.

DeJoy serves at the pleasure of the board. The board appointments go through the Senate. The filibuster has to go.

[Evolve Dammit]

28. The attack on USPS needs/ warrants/ demands a complete investigation, top to bottom. n/t

[BobTheSubgenius]

29. DeJoy fired???

I'd like to suggest incarceration. I wish what he's done rises to the level of a crime.

[samplegirl]

36. He was doing this

Purposely! Get him out!

[spanone]

39. Thank you Howard Dean!!!

[Me.]

40. S-I-L Sent Christmas Card From Outside DC To Us In NYC

It arrived THursday

[AllyCat]

44. We just got November utility bill in four pieces.

[Me.]

46. Bills We're GettingTHank Goodness

everything thing else not

[Pacifist Patriot]

41. He is absolutely correct.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

42. We have to be patient with this one. President Biden has a lot on his plate....

with dozens of cases of malfeasance to undo and correct, plus international concerns.

The Biden Administration is still staffing up. I'm convinced he's well aware of this issue and probably had to deal with it during his campaign with slow or lost mail.

Joe has this on his do-list........

[MyMission]

62. I agree. Patience is needed with this

I've said the same. Biden has so many priorities. It's on his list.

The postmaster general is chosen by USPS board of govenors. There are several vacant seats on the board, which Biden needs to fill first. Then they or he can fire dejoy. If he fires him before the board is restored, the rethugs would still have a majority and would replace him with another inept sycophant. Or they might not even have a quorum to be able to select and vote for a new postmaster. There is currently no deputy postmaster, so firing him would leave no one in charge.

From Wikipedia, about the board:
It consists of 11 members, 6 are requisite to achieve an ordinary quorum. Of the 11 board members, 9 are the presidentially appointed governors, 1 is the postmaster general, and 1 is the deputy postmaster general. The 9 governors elect the postmaster general, the chairman of the board as well as the USPS inspector general; the governors and the postmaster general elect the deputy postmaster general. No more than five governors may be adherents of the same political party.

So, 45 left most Dem seats vacant, but he did appoint one because a quorum was needed to install dejoy. There are 3 vacant board seats, plus the deputy postmaster slot.

I'm sure he's considered who he will appoint to that board. Not sure if he's nominated any yet, as he's busy filling his cabinet, and other important positions. He has so much to do

I'm sending President Biden prayers with big bundles of energy.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

63. Yes, and thank you for that good background info.

If President Biden puts some of his people in there, they can begin an analysis of the damage that's been done. Wasn't there a committee set up in Congress to investigate all the turmoil Dejoy had caused?

Right now, we all just need to be patient and let the new administration settle in and support them in any way we can.

I look forward to DU providing ideas on what we can do.......

[True Blue American]

76. Patience is needed.

Buy American on the list today!

[True Blue American]

75. A woman on our neighborhood board was blaming Biden for not getting the vaccine.

It was his second day in office.

DeWine started out good on Covid-19. He has really let us down. Hospitals took over, now most areas are moving right along.

[MyMission]

80. I have a cousin in Ohio

They live in the Cleveland area. Her husband, almost 75, got it last week, and she, almost 70, has an appointment in 2 weeks.

I'm aware many were surprised and impressed by your governor's initial response, only to be disappointed and disgusted. Glad things are moving along there. Did anyone reply to the board member? I live in a very republican area, and pick and choose when and how I respond to political statements.

I'm turning 60 later this year, don't expect to be eligible for several months. We have a huge number of retirees in my area, which includes Asheville, NC. We have a UNC affiliated hospital and got one of the earliest shipments, and extra refrigerated storage containers to hold them. Not sure how their distribution is being managed, but the first group included those over 75, now revised to 65 and older. My cousin said that was true for Ohio too.

I've heard frustrations expressed about getting to schedule an appointment, phone lines are swamped, easier to sign up on line, but that gets swamped sometimes, so better to do that after business hours. But people are getting through, getting appointments, getting vaccine.

I'm patiently waiting for my turn.

[True Blue American]

84. It should not take long

President Biden and Ron Klain are in charge now. President Biden is taking questions now..
Rob Portman, Senator from Ohio announced his retirement today. Said you could not get anything done with the atmosphere today. Looks to me like a lot is getting done now with Biden running the show. He said,” We need to take vitriol out!”

[AllyCat]

43. He needs to go.

Restore the post office to working order. Add banking services. Get rid of pre-funded pension.

[c-rational]

47. Yes, yes and yes.

[Chicagogrl1]

45. Spoke w our local po recently

The postmaster told me they can’t hire at all as they are in a freeze. Many po veterans are sick of the bs & have retired early. They are so short handed. We get mail every couple of days @7-8pm. It is in such a mess. It’ll take a long while to fix. I’m afraid to mail anything of any importance in the USPS. I am so angry with DeJoy. I hope they roast his nuts but good!!

[Wounded Bear]

48. Doesn't DeJoy have a conflict of interest?

I thought he was running a mailing company of some kind.

[Kingofalldems]

49. I'm sure.

Didn't matter to Trump.

[Wounded Bear]

51. I'm sure he thought it was a plus...

corrupt people don't trust those with integrity.

[tclambert]

59. "corrupt people don't trust those with integrity" Of course not. People with integrity will rat out

corrupt people for every trivial little thing, like committing a felony. Even worse, those rats with integrity might be willing to testify at your impeachment trial. Thank God there are trustworthy Senators who will refuse to listen to testimony nor look at evidence.

[Karma13612]

70. It isn't just

The ratting out.

Untrustworthy people don’t trust others because they believe everyone has the same untrustworthy traits they exhibit. It’s projection.

[Hekate]

52. EXCELLENT point

[Ahpook]

54. Trump set a bad precedence

that will haunt us for years. Not if, but when the tables turn back to pub rule, they will fuck everything up again. I hope Biden can get rid of him and many more issues, but we know how this works.

Four to eight years and we will be right back to defending the basics of this country. How the hell do we go from Obama to that fucking thing we just got rid of? The trends say it is coming, and could be worse.

I'm happy about Biden, but know the system after watching it for years.

[orangecrush]

56. YES

Do it!

[theneworiginal]

57. Let him pick--resignation or criminal investigation

of election laws and defiance of a court order. DeJoy's behavior and motives should also be used as evidence of the larger scheme enacted by The Don to steal this election and overthrow the government.

[Ford_Prefect]

58. Incompetence is not protected by civil service laws." Neither is sabotage, criminal negligence,

or willful damage to USPS property. Conspiring to interfere with the rapid and efficient delivery of the mail is also not protected, regardless of orders from the administration. Laws were broken by DeJoy and the Board. They carry serious consequences for a reason.

Arrest them now and fire them later.

[onenote]

61. Even Dean admits firing DeJoy would be challenged in court

And it's all but certain that a court would stay the firing while the case was pending. So fire now and then litigate isn't the best strategy, partially when you consider that if Biden fills the vacancies on the Board of Governors, he can have a Democratic majority on the Board and their power to fire DeJoy is much clearer than Biden's power to do so.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

65. Biden must remove him. Otherwise, you let Pissolini get away with

sabotage.

[BumRushDaShow]

68. The Board of Governors now has 4 vacancies

3 previously vacant and the 4th of a Democrat whose term expired last month. 45 submitted a nominee in mid-December to seal the control in m HOWEVER the Senate did NOT get around to confirming him.

Filling those 4 vacancies with Democrats will give Democrats the majority of the 9 member board, and they can remove him.

[Ferrets are Cool]

71. K and R

[BSdetect]

72. k&r

[coeur_de_lion]

73. Sent my sister a birthday present

Mailed priority mail 12/14/2020.

Sat in a post office in Virginia where she lives from 12/21 to 1/21/21.

So I filed an insurance claim 1/21/21.

Just got tracking update last night that it will be delivered today. Coinkydink? Don’t think so. Not holding my breath for that package arrival all the same.

It’s jewelry so of course it’s insured. With my claim I included the receipt.

But what about the millions of pieces of mail that are not insured or that people lost the receipt for?

I fucking hate DeJoy.

Fire him and litigate later.

USPS employs 600,000 people. They’re all afraid for their jobs and we cannot use the postal service for fear of our stuff getting lost forever. So USPS will die out — intentional sabotage. He needs to be gone today.

[lagomorph777]

77. He should also be prosecuted.

[Blue Owl]

81. Technically, there is no longer any use for DeJoy in that position

He was placed there to illegally throw the election to tRump. He failed to do so. Hence, he should be fired for incompetence -- among other much worse things...

[QED]

82. Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not lawyer!

But I agree with him!

[DBoon]

83. There are ways to get rid of government employees without directly firing them

You can play musical chairs with open positions. Eventually the music stops and their is no position for the offender.