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XanaDUer2

(10,687 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 09:33 AM Jan 2021

Is Rob Portman's exit good or bad

for us.? He's not a Trumper, but voted with Trump a majority of the time. Should he do what's best for him and his family? Will a Trumper take his place? Republicans have caused such gridlock that he feels nothing can be done anymore in a meaningful way.

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Is Rob Portman's exit good or bad (Original Post) XanaDUer2 Jan 2021 OP
ohio..... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #1
Sherrod Brown might disagree with that speculation still_one Jan 2021 #5
he's an incumbent. When he retires, the next Dem will have a much harder time themaguffin Jan 2021 #15
Ossoff and Warnock demonstrated it can be done still_one Jan 2021 #19
Yes, because our demographics are changing in the direction that is trending towards blue themaguffin Jan 2021 #20
Ohio has A great Democratic senator right now. mobeau69 Jan 2021 #6
He's a trumpist in my book. mobeau69 Jan 2021 #2
Gym Jordan will be his replacement. Turbineguy Jan 2021 #18
Good only if a Democrat replaces him still_one Jan 2021 #3
He's a conservative Republican NewJeffCT Jan 2021 #4
I wonder if little gymie is whacko enough for the gop base? getagrip_already Jan 2021 #8
Jordan is one of Trump's biggest supporters in the House NewJeffCT Jan 2021 #22
My sense is Ryan would kick ass but I don't know Ohio Sugarcoated Jan 2021 #25
I thought Ted Strickland had a shot against Portman last time NewJeffCT Jan 2021 #26
I somewhat disagree, gab13by13 Jan 2021 #7
wing nut welfare ensures otherwise.... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #12
YEP Cosmocat Jan 2021 #13
not to mention self-promotion appearances NewJeffCT Jan 2021 #24
I wondered the same thing. KentuckyWoman Jan 2021 #21
It might make the Repub party slightly less sane... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #9
Good! kentuck Jan 2021 #10
It's to laugh, really. Ohiogal Jan 2021 #11
It is grades of horribleness Cosmocat Jan 2021 #14
It easier to win an open seat... so good for us. Happy Hoosier Jan 2021 #16
Portman is between a Dark Mark and a Wiper, what could replace him will likely be an Unsolved Crime Celerity Jan 2021 #17
Neutral. He'll Be Replaced By Someone Just As Bad ChoppinBroccoli Jan 2021 #23
Good. I think either Tim Ryan or Marci Kaptur would defeat Gym Jordan... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2021 #27

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
1. ohio.....
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 09:37 AM
Jan 2021

Will surely nominate the very worst republican. They will likely win.

They are an in-bred kind of crazy. We just don't have the numbers there.....

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
4. He's a conservative Republican
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jan 2021

It could be Gym Jordan against Tim Ryan for the open seat. Ryan probably has a better shot against Jordan than he would have had against Portman.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
8. I wonder if little gymie is whacko enough for the gop base?
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 09:54 AM
Jan 2021

The gop is shrinking, leaving a toxic sludge of whacko's voting in the primaries. Sure, there are a lot of gop voters, but a lot of those aren't primary voters. Some just show up for the general.

They may just want the most extreme piece of shite they see. Maybe someone with facepaint and a head dress.

I'm not sure we can beat jordan. he is very popular with the fox crowd. Hopefully someone crazier gets the nom. It won't matter vote wise in the senate. jordan isn't going to ever support a dem bill.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. Jordan is one of Trump's biggest supporters in the House
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:16 PM
Jan 2021

so, i would think it would make most Trumpsters happy.

Sugarcoated

(7,724 posts)
25. My sense is Ryan would kick ass but I don't know Ohio
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:56 AM
Jan 2021

What do you think?

Any Ohioans care to weigh in?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
26. I thought Ted Strickland had a shot against Portman last time
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 10:00 AM
Jan 2021

and Portman won by 20 points. But, I'm a New England resident, so not really qualified to predict Ohio politics.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
12. wing nut welfare ensures otherwise....
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 10:02 AM
Jan 2021

One of the biggest obstacles to getting gop members of congress to vote freely when they won't run again is after office earning potential. Between lobbying, the speech circuit, think tanks, college chairs, and consultancies, they can make a large fortune after leaving office - IF they stay in line.

Voting your conscience can be very expensive for an outgoing republican. And that doesn't even touch on the thugs threatening to kill them and their families.

I wouldn't expect to see any sudden freedom being felt because he is retiring. Conviction will only happen if mitch is convinced its the only way to regain power. Right now that doesn't seem to be his calculation.

KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
21. I wondered the same thing.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 11:26 AM
Jan 2021

Portman is an actual conservative. I think he is leaving because it isn't worth getting killed for.

Ohiogal

(32,012 posts)
11. It's to laugh, really.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 09:58 AM
Jan 2021

His excuse about gridlock. He is part of the problem since he voted with Trump and the GOP almost exclusively and also voted not to impeach the first time.

I do worry that Ohio could vote in a crazy whack job like Jordan or Bill Johnson who would be way worse. Tim Ryan would be an excellent choice.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
14. It is grades of horribleness
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 10:06 AM
Jan 2021

I mean, he only looks good because the party has devolved into next level shitshow.

We are talking about the difference in dying by carbon monoxide vs ebola.

Portman was a less horrible death, but death nonetheless.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
23. Neutral. He'll Be Replaced By Someone Just As Bad
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:19 PM
Jan 2021

On the one hand, it's an opportunity to pick up another Senate seat. On the other, the reality of the situation is that the inept Ohio Democratic Party probably doesn't have anyone they can run for that seat who's capable of actually winning it.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
27. Good. I think either Tim Ryan or Marci Kaptur would defeat Gym Jordan...
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:24 PM
Jan 2021

Provided the election isn't hacked.

An editorial in the Cleveland Plain Dealer last year called Jordan the second most despicable person in the federal government.

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