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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:04 PM Jan 2021

How the KGB Hooked Trump


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Jeff Stein
@SpyTalker

How the KGB Hooked Trump
spytalk.co
https://t.co/lRBndrqpmi?amp=1

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WAS DONALD TRUMP a Russian asset? Just how compromised was he? And how could such an audacious feat have been accomplished? Based on extensive, exclusive interviews with dozens of high-level sources—Soviets who resigned from the KGB and moved to the United States, former officers and agents in the CIA and FBI, lawyers at white-shoe Washington firms—and an analysis of thousands of pages of FBI investigations, police investigations, and news articles in English, Russian, and Ukrainian, veteran investigative reporter Craig Unger’s American Kompromat unearths the unsettling facts behind the theories of Trump’s compromise by the Kremlin. It’s a story that should rattle anyone who cares about the future of democracy in America....

After the KGB had put together about 10 reports on Trump, Shvets says, they would have assessed whether he could be recruited in either of two capacities: “Capacity number one—as a trusted contact. Capacity number two, which is more ambitious—as an agent. You want to know if this guy can be cultivated to the point where he can be brought to cooperate.”...

As for Carle, he explained, “I think we [as handlers] are dream makers. We fulfill the dreams of our targets. Whatever you lack, we can provide. If you need psychological soothing because you are under stress, come cry on my shoulder. If you need someone to talk to, I'm a listener. If you want a bowling buddy, I really like ten pin. And so forth.”

It’s widely known that Trump—profoundly insecure, highly suggestible, and exceptionally susceptible to flattery—was anxious to acquire intellectual validation. In In that regard, the KGB would have been delighted to humor him.


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How the KGB Hooked Trump (Original Post) soothsayer Jan 2021 OP
He was at least a "useful idiot" for them...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #1
He was compromised in some way, probably via his finances, but the Steele Dossier is overrated BS Bucky Jan 2021 #21
. . . niyad Jan 2021 #2
How They Hooked Him Is No Secret ChoppinBroccoli Jan 2021 #3
Bingo. theneworiginal Jan 2021 #5
Agree with ya soothsayer Jan 2021 #6
"Girls, money and praise". More like CHILDREN, money and praise. BComplex Jan 2021 #7
I wonder if picking up the ball and running with the birtherism was his first treason Bucky Jan 2021 #19
Very juicy. Turbineguy Jan 2021 #4
Drumpf was a duck on the pond Bradshaw3 Jan 2021 #8
From the responses so far, almost no one has actually read the full DETAILED booK excerpt. READ IT! hedda_foil Jan 2021 #9
You will love this too soothsayer Jan 2021 #10
Thanks, Soothsayer! hedda_foil Jan 2021 #20
Interesting! Thanks for posting. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #22
I did... ewagner Jan 2021 #14
I still believe there is a disc somewhere at FSB headquarters... LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #11
And a confidential informant to boot TheRickles Jan 2021 #12
He's no patriot but uses name for his "party". rickyhall Jan 2021 #13
Craig Unger is an outstanding reporter and author -- TOPS Kid Berwyn Jan 2021 #15
This excerpt makes me wonder just how many members of Congress are owned by Russia. Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #16
A big tip off was the way Trump got all lovey dovey when he was around Putin. jalan48 Jan 2021 #17
And all hangdog: tblue37 Jan 2021 #18

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
21. He was compromised in some way, probably via his finances, but the Steele Dossier is overrated BS
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 04:29 PM
Jan 2021


As a rule of thumb, you should be skeptical about every story you get out of the "hall of mirrors" of the spy world.
Be particularly suspicious of data that appeals to your own prejudices. The hookers peeing on Trump is a lovely revenge fantasy for us to joke about, but being degraded by women doesn't really make sense as a Trump-specific kink. Everything about him broadcasts "sadist" not masochist.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
3. How They Hooked Him Is No Secret
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:15 PM
Jan 2021

He owed millions to the Russian mob. Due to his penchant for stiffing creditors, all the big banks refused to loan him money, so he was forced to go to the Russian mob. When it became obvious he wasn't going to be able to pay them back, my theory is that they hatched a scheme to get him installed in the White House for the express purpose of doing Putin's bidding. I believe that the Russians came to him and told him that he was going to run for President, they were going to make sure he won (they already had the voting machines hacked to ensure they could install whoever they wanted), and that once in office, he would lift all the sanctions on Russia and do whatever else Putin wanted, and then his debt would be considered paid.

theneworiginal

(302 posts)
5. Bingo.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:29 PM
Jan 2021

He was groomed as the Russians gave him girls, money and praise. They fed his ego by telling him how presidential he was, then told him how he could make a ton of money from the exposure of running. It paid off better than they could have ever imagined.

Jan 6 was not tRump's first act of Treason, by far. He should be criminally prosecuted regardless of Impeachment outcome.

BComplex

(8,054 posts)
7. "Girls, money and praise". More like CHILDREN, money and praise.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jan 2021

As he said while standing with Jeffrey Epstein, "he likes 'em on the younger side like I do"....

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
8. Drumpf was a duck on the pond
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jan 2021

Probably one of the easiest targets they ever teed up. They swung easy and knocked it out of the park - and our democracy was forever scarred.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
9. From the responses so far, almost no one has actually read the full DETAILED booK excerpt. READ IT!
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jan 2021

It details with major sources, exactly how and when he was recruited as an agent 40 years ago. I'm getting this book to read now! Please read the excerpt in full. You won't regret it.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
22. Interesting! Thanks for posting.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 04:55 PM
Jan 2021

If only Dems could hire a team to put out this info Q-Anon style and have the Qs "do their research" and sleuth out this instead of the nonsense about baby-eating lizard people Dems...

(Another good read that all DUers might find interesting regarding how Q-Anon hooks people: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214575956)

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
14. I did...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:14 PM
Jan 2021

raises questions but the credibility of the sources needs to be verified.

otherwise....believable....and unbelievable at the same time

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
11. I still believe there is a disc somewhere at FSB headquarters...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:46 PM
Jan 2021

that shows Trump engaging in urine-soaked sex with prostitutes at the Moscow Ritz-Carlton.

Kid Berwyn

(14,913 posts)
15. Craig Unger is an outstanding reporter and author -- TOPS
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:19 PM
Jan 2021

He lifted the lid...



Trump’s Russian Laundromat

How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.


By CRAIG UNGER
The New Republic, July , 2017

Excerpt...

Trump made his first trip to Russia in 1987, only a few years before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Invited by Soviet Ambassador Yuri Dubinin, Trump was flown to Moscow and Leningrad—all expenses paid—to talk business with high-ups in the Soviet command. In The Art of the Deal, Trump recounted the lunch meeting with Dubinin that led to the trip. “One thing led to another,” he wrote, “and now I’m talking about building a large luxury hotel, across the street from the Kremlin, in partnership with the Soviet government.”

Over the years, Trump and his sons would try and fail five times to build a new Trump Tower in Moscow. But for Trump, what mattered most were the lucrative connections he had begun to make with the Kremlin—and with the wealthy Russians who would buy so many of his properties in the years to come. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets,” Donald Trump Jr. boasted at a real estate conference in 2008. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

The money, illicit and otherwise, began to rain in earnest after the Soviet Union fell in 1991. President Boris Yeltsin’s shift to a market economy was so abrupt that cash-rich gangsters and corrupt government officials were able to privatize and loot state-held assets in oil, coal, minerals, and banking. Yeltsin himself, in fact, would later describe Russia as “the biggest mafia state in the world.” After Vladimir Putin succeeded Yeltsin as president, Russian intelligence effectively joined forces with the country’s mobsters and oligarchs, allowing them to operate freely as long as they strengthen Putin’s power and serve his personal financial interests. According to James Henry, a former chief economist at McKinsey & Company who consulted on the Panama Papers, some $1.3 trillion in illicit capital has poured out of Russia since the 1990s.

At the top of the sprawling criminal enterprise was Semion Mogilevich. Beginning in the early 1980s, according to the FBI, the short, squat Ukrainian was the key money-laundering contact for the Solntsevskaya Bratva, or Brotherhood, one of the richest criminal syndicates in the world. Before long, he was running a multibillion-dollar worldwide racket of his own. Mogilevich wasn’t feared because he was the most violent gangster, but because he was reputedly the smartest. The FBI has credited the “brainy don,” who holds a degree in economics from Lviv University, with a staggering range of crimes. He ran drug trafficking and prostitution rings on an international scale; in one characteristic deal, he bought a bankrupt airline to ship heroin from Southeast Asia into Europe. He used a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest as a front for art that Russian gangsters stole from museums, churches, and synagogues all over Europe. He has also been accused of selling some $20 million in stolen weapons, including ground-to-air missiles and armored troop carriers, to Iran. “He uses this wealth and power to not only further his criminal enterprises,” the FBI says, “but to influence governments and their economies.”

In Russia, Mogilevich’s influence reportedly reaches all the way to the top. In 2005, Alexander Litvinenko, a Russian intelligence agent who defected to London, recorded an interview with investigators detailing his inside knowledge of the Kremlin’s ties to organized crime. “Mogilevich,” he said in broken English, “have good relationship with Putin since 1994 or 1993.” A year later Litvinenko was dead, apparently poisoned by agents of the Kremlin.

Continues...

https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

Lonestarblue

(10,018 posts)
16. This excerpt makes me wonder just how many members of Congress are owned by Russia.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jan 2021

In 2018, these Senators spent July 4 in Russia, meeting with members of the Duma:

Richard Shelby (AL), Steve Daines (MT), John Hoeven (ND), Ron Johnson (WI), John Kennedy (LA), Jerry Moran (KS), John Thune (SD), and Kay Granger (TX)

Why? It was supposedly to develop better relations. Again, for what purpose? Russia is an economic weakling and is not an important trading partner for the US.

Some are no longer in the Senate, but I remember that Ron Johnson and John Kennedy were two of the Senators casting doubt on the election to support Trump’s claim of fraud. They eventually voted for certifying the election after the attack.

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