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LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:14 PM Jan 2021

An honest question. Re: The Rolex, etc.

As you may be aware, I'm kinda' stupid, so please indulge me here.

1) Why WOULDN'T The President of the United States of America wear a Rolex?

2) What's the deal with the tan suit? What's wrong with a tan suit?

I swear, these people who find these things to chew on...I honestly don't get it. President Obama's tan suit has been talked about forever, and I have not understood this issue since day one. He could wear a hot pink suit for all I care. I probably wouldn't even notice.

See, the one thing I've noticed about Republicans...In general, they focus on trivial things that other people have or don't have. Now, why exactly is that?

I've never understood this mindset. Never will either.

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An honest question. Re: The Rolex, etc. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Jan 2021 OP
It is called "DISTRACTION"! The bright, shiny thing. niyad Jan 2021 #1
Because Tucker and Hannity have such a real connection to everyday people underpants Jan 2021 #2
I have read that Hannity Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #46
My BIL has two Rolexes and a vintage Omega obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #3
Because that's all they've got, Dems for the most part aren't dewsgirl Jan 2021 #4
Oh yeah! I forgot about that one. LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #5
And we musn't ever forget the great Grey Poupon scandal. dewsgirl Jan 2021 #10
And the Great Arugula Gaffe GopherGal Jan 2021 #19
LoL🤣 of course. dewsgirl Jan 2021 #26
I wish he would have worn something like that Rorey Jan 2021 #6
You're right about his clothing... LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #9
trump's suits always look like he bought them from a discount store Rorey Jan 2021 #12
Yep. A skilled tailor LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #13
That's something I always wondered about happybird Jan 2021 #28
I pegged him as a customer of Omar the Tentmaker. 11 Bravo Jan 2021 #44
.... Rorey Jan 2021 #45
I Absolutely Loved RobinA Jan 2021 #15
You know, that's a valid point... LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #16
I can't wear one. I'm a white guy that comes in 2 shades... GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #42
how great would it have been if he had showed up at the inauguration mopinko Jan 2021 #23
it's because they are massive losers on virtually every policy they push, so they have to distract unblock Jan 2021 #7
I've read the NY Times article when it came out, it seemed more like a fashion piece than anything dsp3000 Jan 2021 #8
vacheron constantin watch is pretty impressive and way more expensive than a rolex. Celerity Jan 2021 #31
I'm More Concerned with American Flag Lapel Pins!!! Stallion Jan 2021 #11
Why don't we have a pearl-clutching emoji???? Rorey Jan 2021 #14
I love the way Biden looks in a suit arlyellowdog Jan 2021 #17
I think both Biden and Obama could be legit models. LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #22
Yep. Dr. Biden has a beautiful glow happybird Jan 2021 #29
I'm no fan of silicon... GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #43
Not Just Look Good, But... ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #24
Strange. I've seen umpteen threads about this here. cwydro Jan 2021 #18
I've seen it in printed (internet) news media all over the place... LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #20
Well, at least you've helped! cwydro Jan 2021 #41
CNN said the Rolex was a Christmas president from Jill arlyellowdog Jan 2021 #21
So? Trump has a gold shitter. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 #25
and can we talk about Ivanka's expensive designer clothes that she wore? IcyPeas Jan 2021 #38
Because EVERYONE KNOWS Blacks aren't supposed COLGATE4 Jan 2021 #27
It isn't about the object. It is about grievance. Caliman73 Jan 2021 #30
THIS, especially that last paragraph. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #35
Well said! planetc Jan 2021 #37
Thank you. It IS ridiculous. It reminds me of when Bernie got beaten up Mike 03 Jan 2021 #32
Yup. n/t progressoid Jan 2021 #39
Remember when people on DU went after Bernie for having a 2nd home? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #33
Ha. Yes. I just posted about this above. NT Mike 03 Jan 2021 #34
Took me too long to get the image. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #36
I care as much about this as I do Bernie and Jane having a second home. Autumn Jan 2021 #40

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
46. I have read that Hannity
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 06:53 PM
Jan 2021

owns over 800 rental houses all over the country. He bought most of them during the last recession. But he has a problem with Biden wearing a low-end Rolex?

obamanut2012

(26,081 posts)
3. My BIL has two Rolexes and a vintage Omega
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jan 2021

Probably 15K worth of watches he bought over 20 years. I would never spend that on watches, but I have spent more than that on my nerd hobby stuff over teh years. I don't go out drinking, I buy low-cost cars, and I'm not a clotheshorse, so I spend money on that stuff. I ahve a good job, pay bills, and so does my BIL.

I also didn;t care Oprah had a 5K purse. It was her money. She earned it.

I don't even care that Trump had a 36K Rolex.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
4. Because that's all they've got, Dems for the most part aren't
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jan 2021

corrupt, so they find stupid stuff to complain about. I remember Obama wore a bicycle helmet on a bike ride, you'd have thought he stabbed someone.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
6. I wish he would have worn something like that
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:21 PM
Jan 2021

I wish, after they made their big deal out of a perfectly fine tan suit, he had worn something like the hot pink suit you mentioned.

That man could pull off anything as far as clothes go.

Did they ever mention the orange-ness of their guy? Or the reptilian look of his third wife?

Yes, President Biden's Rolex is fine with me. I'm sure it cost less that ONE golf outing that trump took on our dime.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
9. You're right about his clothing...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:24 PM
Jan 2021

That man could wear anything and look great.

I thought he looked super sharp in the tan suit...

Trump, on the other hand...

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
12. trump's suits always look like he bought them from a discount store
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jan 2021

They just look cheap. I know he doesn't have much to work with as far as physique goes, but I think his tailor is laughing behind his back.

happybird

(4,608 posts)
28. That's something I always wondered about
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jan 2021

He’s so obsessed with image and claims to be rich, so why were his suits so cheap-looking and poorly fitted?

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
15. I Absolutely Loved
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jan 2021

that tan suit. It worked on him better than on a white guy, he looked good in clothes, it was slightly different than we were used to seeing... I wish he had worn it again.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
16. You know, that's a valid point...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jan 2021

Back when I used to wear suits, I had several tan suits, and I always was complimented on them. I'm a white guy of Italian descent, so my skin is on the darker side. As I'm thinking about it now, a tan suit might not look so good on a really pale white guy.

I've come across a few articles, etc. that tell you the colors you should wear depending on your skin tone...

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
42. I can't wear one. I'm a white guy that comes in 2 shades...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 04:59 PM
Jan 2021

Bright white and red. I envy those who can tan. My wife has beautiful toned skin.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
23. how great would it have been if he had showed up at the inauguration
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:14 PM
Jan 2021

in a suit that matched michelle's?

unblock

(52,257 posts)
7. it's because they are massive losers on virtually every policy they push, so they have to distract
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jan 2021

and lie in order to win. they know they would lose in a landslide if they simply talked seriously about the policies they want.

this is not a recent phenomenon. they went on and on about carter's sweaters and gore's earth tones and dukakis's helmet.

of course, their fixation on triviality is completely one-sided. no republican ever has worn the wrong attire or looked funny, if you ask any republican.


the real crime is not so much that republicans lob schoolyard insults. the real crime is that the media promotes and encourages and rewards that sort of thing. *they* are the ones who deem it worthy of serious consideration.

dsp3000

(487 posts)
8. I've read the NY Times article when it came out, it seemed more like a fashion piece than anything
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jan 2021

I think some people turned it into an outrage piece.

FWIW I love rolex watches and President Biden has some really good watches in his collection, including his "everyman" Seiko quartz and an Omega.

I'll even admit that Trump's vacheron constantin watch is pretty impressive and way more expensive than a rolex.

Celerity

(43,420 posts)
31. vacheron constantin watch is pretty impressive and way more expensive than a rolex.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jan 2021

Completely depends on the models. There are many Rolex models that dwarf many Vacheron Constantin models in price.


Vacheron Constantin FIFTYSIX SELF-WINDING

https://www.vacheron-constantin.com/en/watches/fiftysix/fiftysix-self-winding-4600e-000a-b487.html



REFERENCE: 4600E/000A-B487

FIFTYSIX SELF-WINDING

40 mm , Stainless steel

With a retro-contemporary style, this watch is inspired by a model dating back to 1956 – reference 6073. The sector dial and petrol blue strap contrast elegantly with the steel case. Its openworked caseback reveals an elevated oscillating weight in 22K gold, inspired by the Maltese cross, as well as the exceptional finish of the automatic movement.

12 700,00 €




ROLEX
OYSTER PERPETUAL COSMOGRAPH DAYTONA 116506


http://www.leguidedesmontres.com/en/products-new/rolex/3181/116506






Rorey

(8,445 posts)
14. Why don't we have a pearl-clutching emoji????
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:33 PM
Jan 2021

I mean, all I can do is gasp. No flag pin???? Can he be impeached for that after all this time?????



arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
17. I love the way Biden looks in a suit
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jan 2021

He is so tall and thin, he wears a suit so well, like a male model. Dr. Biden also wears clothes well. I, myself, fit more in the Bernie category. I’m certain Jill got him the Rolex because it makes the outfit. I appreciated the effort. Joe Biden looks presidential and it was so important on Inauguration Day.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
22. I think both Biden and Obama could be legit models.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:59 PM
Jan 2021

And don't get me started on Dr. Biden. She is one fine looking woman, and a lot of her beauty comes from the inside. Same with Mrs. Obama. Melania, who is supposed to be so beautiful, never did a thing for me. No inner beauty at all. She makes me cringe. That squint...

happybird

(4,608 posts)
29. Yep. Dr. Biden has a beautiful glow
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

that seems to emanate from within her.
I’m thrilled to have genuinely good and compassionate people in the WH again!

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
24. Not Just Look Good, But...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jan 2021

...they fit properly and the tie is the right length!
Quite the difference from the last 4 years of a supposed billionaire who couldn't find a suit that fit properly.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. Strange. I've seen umpteen threads about this here.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:44 PM
Jan 2021

But I don’t think I’ve seen it mention in the news.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
20. I've seen it in printed (internet) news media all over the place...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:55 PM
Jan 2021

but I don't think I've seen it on TV.

arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
21. CNN said the Rolex was a Christmas president from Jill
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jan 2021

I think if my husband had been elected President, saved the Union, defeated evil, I’d get him a Rolex, too.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,036 posts)
25. So? Trump has a gold shitter.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jan 2021

I wouldn't spend $10,000 on a watch even as a gift. However it makes more sense to spend money on something like that than a guilded toilet.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
27. Because EVERYONE KNOWS Blacks aren't supposed
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:55 PM
Jan 2021

to wear tan suits and/or Rolex watches. Didn't you get the memo?

Caliman73

(11,740 posts)
30. It isn't about the object. It is about grievance.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jan 2021

Republicans exist on grievance. They break government, then decry how "broken" government is. They indulge in extramarital affairs, forced abortion, etc... and decry how "liberal" moral failings are tearing apart the fabric of society. It is all show and strategy.

A Rolex is a rich man's watch and for them, the idea of a Democratic President being a rich man and wearing a rich man's watch is just a tool with which to attack "liberal hypocrisy". Only thing is, liberal are not against the rich. We tend to be against excessive greed, which affords a person 3 private planes and 2 yachts while a thousand people sleep on the street with no food. One man (Biden) and his highly educated and well employed wife, enjoying the freedom to buy a pricey watch, is not that level of excess. Would I buy a Rolex, even if I could afford it? No. That is my choice. I don't judge people who do. I judge people when they put money over people, which is the goal of the Republican Party (at least putting Monied People over other people).

The Tan Suit was also not the problem, it was the person in the Tan Suit that was the problem. The Republicans could not just come out and say, "there's a ni$$er in the White House!" so they had to criticize everything from his Tan Suit to putting his feet on the Resolute Desk (which were BOTH done by other Presidents, with one glaring difference). Republicans despite what some of the newer idiot spokesboys like Shapiro say about "facts over feelings" are ALL ABOUT EMOTION. They use symbolism and emotion to arouse their smaller membership (words chosen deliberately). They are easily excitable, especially when they think that some other group is getting some benefit they don't deserve.

I am sure that you don't understand the mindset because as a (and I am making an assumption so, sorry) liberal, you have it in you and were taught to consider the experiences of other people, even if you don't know them. We as liberals typically accept that while people have different abilities and some people are bigger, stronger, smarter, more artistic, etc... than others; we all have the same dignity and value. While we can be as angry and spiteful as conservatives, it is usually when we hear about powerful people oppressing vulnerable people, not when we hear about powerful people using that power to help other. That is what conservatives hate.

Joe Biden and Barack Obama were not born rich. They obtained their wealth through work and luck, which is what has been sold to us as the American Dream, but they have also, in the eyes of Republicans/Conservatives committed the mortal sin of trying to use the power of government, to actually make life better for the non-wealthy. This "distortion" of the natural order is scary and upsetting to conservatives so they have to try to destroy the character of people who attempt it. Just like George W Bush's grandfather Prescott, helped to organize the Business Coup against FDR who dared use the power of government to stop the ravages of the Great Depression, these modern conservatives go after any liberal who would do the same.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
32. Thank you. It IS ridiculous. It reminds me of when Bernie got beaten up
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jan 2021

for buying a second home.

These people have worked their entire lives. Why wouldn't they have enough money to buy a Peloton? Put a downpayment on a vacation home?

I understand that the U.S. is filled with people who have to count every dime, just barely get by, and can't imagine someone spending $1000 dollars on a stationary bike, or a Rolex (admittedly I think it's foolish to spend that much money on a watch, but it's none of my damned business). I don't think it's fair that so many Americans who work so hard struggle like that, but when you compare that kind of money we are talking about here to the really offensive money that is usually discussed when we talk about income inequality, we are talking about a laughably small amount of money, the kind of money Sheldon Adelson or the Mercers casually drop to throw a summer party.

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