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Nevilledog

(51,125 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:35 PM Jan 2021

Ghislaine Maxwell wants dismissal because not enough minorities were on Grand Jury panel



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Jacob Shamsian
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Jan 26, 2021
Ghislaine Maxwell asked a judge to drop charges against her, arguing the grand jury pool didn't have enough Black or Hispanic people

Ghislaine Maxwell asked a judge to drop charges against her, arguing the grand jury pool didn't...
Lawyers for the Jeffrey Epstein associate say jurors who indicted her for sex trafficking underage girls may have not been diverse enough.
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Jacob Shamsian
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Ghislaine's lawyers say that because the jurors were from White Plains instead of Manhattan, prosecutors violated her 6th Amendment rights https://insider.com/ghislaine-maxwell-asks-drop-charges-because-juror-pool-not-diverse-2021-1
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Ghislaine Maxwell wants dismissal because not enough minorities were on Grand Jury panel (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2021 OP
WTAH???? Seems like she is implying that POC would be more receptive to her sex-trafficking for niyad Jan 2021 #1
No that's not what shes saying. Volaris Jan 2021 #13
Wait cannabis_flower Jan 2021 #2
The "any port in a storm" defense. We can start smelling the desperation about now. marble falls Jan 2021 #3
Took Those Words RobinA Jan 2021 #10
I suspect she would be complaining if *more* Black and Hispanic people were in the jury Cirque du So-What Jan 2021 #4
Her assertion may be ludicrous... Thunderbeast Jan 2021 #5
Novel idea, but nope. lettucebe Jan 2021 #6
+1, uponit7771 Jan 2021 #7
I thought she would get a pardon. panader0 Jan 2021 #8
I think she meant to say not enough minors. n/t blitzen Jan 2021 #9
And where was the sex trafficker representation? Caliman73 Jan 2021 #11
Hey Ghislaine! Don't waste your time. no_hypocrisy Jan 2021 #12

niyad

(113,370 posts)
1. WTAH???? Seems like she is implying that POC would be more receptive to her sex-trafficking for
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:39 PM
Jan 2021

a rich, perverted white guy?? AM I reading this correctly?

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
13. No that's not what shes saying.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 10:34 PM
Jan 2021

Shes saying that because the Grand Jury was assembled in White Plains instead of Manhattan (where her trial is supposed to be), the indictment itself needs thrown out because it didnt come from a 'jury of her (manhattan) peers'.

It's a bullshit argument that, at best, will buy her an extra 6 months in pretrial lockup until another grand jury in manhattan indicts her for exactly the same thing.

At least that's how I read the article...

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
2. Wait
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jan 2021

Isn’t Ghislaine a white girl? Isn’t the whole point of having minorities on the jury that if you are a minority you want a jury of your peers? I could see if she said that there weren’t enough rich people or white people. But not enough minorities?

Cirque du So-What

(25,949 posts)
4. I suspect she would be complaining if *more* Black and Hispanic people were in the jury
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jan 2021

It's just a contrarian strategy of opposing every aspect of the trial - no matter how trivial.

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
5. Her assertion may be ludicrous...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jan 2021

...but it does shine a light on a huge problem in the criminal justice system.

One year ago, I spent a month serving on an all-white grand jury. We were "Jury A", which meant we reviewed the worst violent crimes in front of the District Attorney.

Of the seven:

Two were retired. Jury service had no impact on income.

Four worked for non-profit healthcare systems. Their pay was protected by their employer.

One worked for a large professional firm. His pay was also protected by his employer.

Overt racial bias did not seem present in jury selection, however, only people with secure employment in large institutions did not have the justifiable "hardship" claims that excused service.

The "hardship" filter was uncomfortable for all of us who did serve for a full month. It was hard work exposing us to very disturbing evidence. We viewed surveillance video evidence of three "in the act" homicides.

Many of the accused were racial minorities or lived in poverty. A jury of peers at the critical indictment phase is important, but the current system does not provide that protection. Jurors asked to serve weeks at a time must be compensated by employers or the state. We can not expect justice until this is fixed.

Gislane Maxwell's claim is ridiculous on it's face, but it does expose a real problem that should be addressed.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
6. Novel idea, but nope.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jan 2021

Seriously? It's supposed to be a jury of her peers, not a jury of her preference. And, for the record, it's rarely a jury of your actual peers since it's a jury made up by citizens of the jurisdiction where it is being tried.

Caliman73

(11,740 posts)
11. And where was the sex trafficker representation?
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 05:32 PM
Jan 2021

I mean can't we get a jury of our actual peers... right?

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