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WonderGrunion

(2,995 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 06:36 PM Jan 2021

Biden orders end of federally run private prisons

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-race-and-ethnicity-prisons-coronavirus-pandemic-c8c246f00695f37ef2afb1dd3a5f115e

President Joe Biden on Tuesday ordered the Department of Justice to end its reliance on private prisons and acknowledge the central role government has played in implementing discriminatory housing policies.

In remarks before signing the order, Biden said the U.S. government needs to change “its whole approach” on the issue of racial equity. He added that the nation is less prosperous and secure because of the scourge of systemic racism.

“We must change now,” the president said. “I know it’s going to take time, but I know we can do it. And I firmly believe the nation is ready to change. But government has to change as well.”

Biden rose to the presidency during a year of intense reckoning on institutional racism in the U.S. The moves announced on Tuesday reflect his efforts to follow through with campaign pledges to combat racial injustice.
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Biden orders end of federally run private prisons (Original Post) WonderGrunion Jan 2021 OP
Yes! poli-junkie Jan 2021 #1
That headline makes no sense. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author MagickMuffin Jan 2021 #9
Ever expanding "private prisons" incentivize expanded incarceration and they have much less OregonBlue Jan 2021 #12
Private prisons are the way they are because they are an offshoot of public prisons. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #14
Private FOR PROFIT Prisons are on the Stock Market. They need more prisoners to make $$$$$$$ Tommymac Jan 2021 #13
Public prisons need prisoners so they make money for the state, through cheap labor, WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #15
Difference is We The People run and control Public Prisons. Tommymac Jan 2021 #16
I'm not saying private prisons are a good thing. I'm saying public prisons are just as shitty, WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #18
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #3
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #4
Joe you out did yourself I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2021 #5
This EO does nothing to free anyone or shut down any private prison. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2021 #6
Put a bunch of sociopaths and narcissists I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2021 #7
Have you been to any prison's? EX500rider Jan 2021 #8
No never been in prison I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2021 #10
State prisons are horrible. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #17
Agreed. OregonBlue Jan 2021 #19
K&R UTUSN Jan 2021 #11

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,359 posts)
2. That headline makes no sense.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 06:57 PM
Jan 2021

The DOJ contracts with private prisons to incarcerate people. (Other agencies -- such as Homeland Security -- do as well, and this order does not affect them.) These people will now be moved to state-run prisons. No one will be freed because of this.

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
12. Ever expanding "private prisons" incentivize expanded incarceration and they have much less
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 11:50 AM
Jan 2021

accountability than state or federally run prisons. The end game for private prisons is profit, not rehabilitation.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,359 posts)
14. Private prisons are the way they are because they are an offshoot of public prisons.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:53 PM
Jan 2021

The end game for public prisons is also not rehabilitation.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
13. Private FOR PROFIT Prisons are on the Stock Market. They need more prisoners to make $$$$$$$
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jan 2021

They give a fuck about prisoner rights. They need more non-violent offenders in prison.

For example, private prisons provide help desk analysts for a lot of companies.

The analysts make peanuts compared to their non incarcerated brethren.

It is all about $$$$, not punishment or rehabilitation.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,359 posts)
15. Public prisons need prisoners so they make money for the state, through cheap labor,
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

jobs and votes for underserved areas, and buying/selling services such as communications and food. As with private prisons, it's all about the money, not rehabilitation.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
16. Difference is We The People run and control Public Prisons.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:07 PM
Jan 2021

Different motivation.

Reforms can be made since We can fire the crooks running them.

Much harder to control stinking corrupt Private Prison Corporations who ONLY care about $$$$.

Sorry, you will never convince me Private FOR PROFIT prisons are a good thing.

They are pure Jim Crow and promote systemic racism in the name of the almighty $.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,359 posts)
18. I'm not saying private prisons are a good thing. I'm saying public prisons are just as shitty,
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:12 PM
Jan 2021

that about 10 percent of incarcerated people are in private prisons, that all prisons promote systemic racism in the name of the almighty dollar, and that the system cannot be reformed.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
5. Joe you out did yourself
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 07:44 PM
Jan 2021

Bout time those torture houses got shut the fuck down.

Fuck the ceo's no one is entitled to have a business and some businesses exist to abuse people and the private prison system is a charnel house of trauma. Shut them down,revoke thier charters and make is so prisons will never be run for profit again..

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,359 posts)
6. This EO does nothing to free anyone or shut down any private prison.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 07:51 PM
Jan 2021

All prisons are houses of trauma, and states profit off the ones they run.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
7. Put a bunch of sociopaths and narcissists
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 07:56 PM
Jan 2021

Mix them in with the mentally ill traumatized people,throw in a shitload if people in prison for bullshit..it does not take the long for toxic authoritarian guards and money to turn it into another stanford prison experiment.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
8. Have you been to any prison's?
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 12:17 AM
Jan 2021

When my GF did 2 years in Fla first she was in the state run prison outside Ocala and it was a medieval nightmare, when she was transferred to the private one in Quincy outside Tallahassee she was SO happy, it was so much nicer and better run and modern, it looked like a college campus when I visited her.

Turin_C3PO

(14,007 posts)
17. State prisons are horrible.
Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jan 2021

But *most* private prisons are even worse. There's a reason most Democrats want to do away with them.

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