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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 02:05 PM Jan 2021

Russia Groomed Trump For Decades To Destroy The Republican Party

Republicans used to be "hawks" when it came to Russia.

Now they love Russia, and travel there for directions and to get help it appears.

And the "party" defends Putin's number one asset in America.

Trump.

Mission Accomplished!!!!!

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Russia Groomed Trump For Decades To Destroy The Republican Party (Original Post) DanieRains Jan 2021 OP
Why would Russia want to destroy the GOP? Marius25 Jan 2021 #1
To destroy our democratic republic Mme. Defarge Jan 2021 #3
Right, but destroying the GOP Marius25 Jan 2021 #4
"Russia Groomed Trump For Decades To Destroy The USA" ret5hd Jan 2021 #2
Well, now maybe you need to fix the "mission accomplished." Hortensis Jan 2021 #5
Trump is not the only one Putin has groomed. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #6
There it is. dchill Jan 2021 #7
Hell a Bunch of Them Have Russian Mail Ordered Brides Stallion Jan 2021 #8
Including Das Leader. LakeArenal Jan 2021 #11
Why would they groom him to "destroy the GOP"? JHB Jan 2021 #9
Russia flipped from communism to fascism. roamer65 Jan 2021 #10
Russia/Putin transformed to ultra orthodox religion, anti gay,.... magicarpet Jan 2021 #14
Putin is dealing with shit that could ruin him so LakeArenal Jan 2021 #12
Not sure that is accurate. Caliman73 Jan 2021 #13
 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
4. Right, but destroying the GOP
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jan 2021

would improve the US. Seems more like Russia has supported the GOP in order to destroy Democracy. They haven't destroyed the GOP.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Well, now maybe you need to fix the "mission accomplished."
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jan 2021

We're not destroyed, and the fact that we're sitting around tippy tapping instead of scrabbling anxiously for food and ways to stay warm ought to be a big clue.

They didn't even destroy the Democratic Party, which was a more immediate goal since we're the big, existential enemy Putin must defeat if he's to prevail. They did hurt us badly, though.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
9. Why would they groom him to "destroy the GOP"?
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jan 2021

When they started he was nominally a Democrat (because it was expedient for his business dealings in NYC). And the Republicans haven't had much of a problem with Russia since the USSR collapsed. Their main criticisms of Russia involved criticizing Obama. Plenty of them voiced admiration for Putin, and since when do Republicans have objections to oligarchy?

The GOP was not the target. Disrupting us and our allies was.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
14. Russia/Putin transformed to ultra orthodox religion, anti gay,....
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 02:51 PM
Jan 2021

.. political stance,... and condoning ultra right Nazi youth movements.

Caliman73

(11,740 posts)
13. Not sure that is accurate.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jan 2021

I know there is reporting out that Trump was targeted as an asset or at least a dupe, for years by KGB and Russian agents after the fall of the Soviet Union.

I would argue that it was not to destroy the Republican Party in particular however. Some Republicans were Russia Hawks because the Soviet Union was Communist. There were a lot of Democratic leaders who were also hawks. The reason for the belief that only Republicans were hawks is their own propaganda that Democrats were "soft on Communism" just as Democrats are "soft on Crime". Democrats are nuanced and favor multiple approaches to dealing with geopolitical rivals, whereas Republicans favor bluster, threats and militarism. During Bush Jr.'s Presidency, remember Bush looked into Putin's soul? During President Obama's tenure, when Russia was engaging in proxy war with Ukraine and Invaded Georgia, remember the GOP was pretty silent, except for McCain? The GOP's stance on Russia was never about Russia, it was about Communism or at least about having a superpower foe to have an arms race against. Republicans seem to care little about China, even though they are nominally communist. Sure they use China as a cudgel to attack Biden, but they support the donors to the Republican party who ship their factories to China and don't seem to care about any trade deficits.

I would imagine that Putin, who is decidedly NOT a communist but an authoritarian, right wing, oligarch. Saw much more in common with Trump and the GOP and thought he could use them to 1. Advance Russian goals and 2. Foment chaos in the American political system thus weakening our standing in the world.

On that front, it is Mission Accomplished.

Trump is out of power. The Republican party is somewhat divided between conservatives who favor a more subtle form of hierarchy and status quo, and those who want to plunge straight into fascism.

With Trump's defeat, and Biden, not the biggest hawk, but certainly aware of Russia's malfeasance and intends to take a less passive approach to dealing with their transgressions.

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