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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 05:29 PM Jan 2021

Baseball's Hall of Fame 'morals clause'


[Many Baseball HOF voters have not worried much about character issues over the decades. Now record holding stars Schilling, Bonds, and Clemens fall short of needed votes to be in HOF. Each has significant character issues. The latter two on issues related to cheating in baseball games. Schilling is a far right . . .

Many baseball professional commentators do not seem to like the character considerations or the morals clause implications].

snip ' . . . Each of these men wears a different shade of scarlet letter. Unless you hold a ballot, it’s difficult to lump their transgressions – real and perceived – into one category. Civil War generals don’t have much in common with elite baseball players either, but there is this: if their faces are allowed to stand on permanent display long enough, it’s possible they will inspire different reactions from different people. . . . '


https://www.ocregister.com/2021/01/26/hoornstra-baseball-hall-of-fame-
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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. "Curt Schilling Insists He'd Already Be Hall Of Famer If MLB Never Racially Integrated"
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 05:35 PM
Jan 2021
Curt Schilling Insists He’d Already Be Hall Of Famer If MLB Never Racially Integrated

MEDFIELD, MA—Criticizing the Baseball Writers’ Association of America for factoring social justice into their decision-making process, retired pitcher Curt Schilling insisted Wednesday that he’d already be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame if the MLB had never racially integrated.

“I wish the media would put their liberal bias aside and look at the numbers I put up in the era of Black players,” said Schilling, who claimed that his Hall-of-Fame case had been negatively affected by his outspoken views, including those on the “sanctity” of pre-integration baseball.

“It’s sad to see Cooperstown become yet another beloved American institution that’s been crushed by the left. The MLB has made it clear that they want nothing to do with white players like me, so I’d rather they just take my name off the ballot entirely. I’m sure they’ll be happy to roll out the red carpet for undeserving players who fit their identity politics like Derek Jeter.” At press time, Schilling slammed the Boston Red Sox, his former team, for “caving to the woke mob” when they became the last franchise to integrate in 1959.


OK -- It's the Onion, but still . . . . . ..

https://sports.theonion.com/curt-schilling-insists-he-d-already-be-hall-of-famer-if-1846145304

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. More
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 05:45 PM
Jan 2021

snip " . . . The Baseball Hall of Fame takes the "country club mentality" very seriously when electing members to Cooperstown.

Members of the Baseball Writers Association of America are partly to blame, but the other half is what is called "The Morals Clause."

It is Rule 5 in the process of electing players to the Hall:

Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.'

https://www.spgallagher.com/gallaghers-word/yeah-the-baseball-hall-of-fames-morals-clause

Auggie

(31,174 posts)
7. Some clause. Tom Yawkey, one of baseball's biggest racists, is happily enshrined.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 06:12 PM
Jan 2021

Even the Red Sox have officially "distanced" themselves from this creep.

More on Yawkey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Yawkey

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
10. BLM has had an impact, and ripple effects. Even Michael Jordan,
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 07:13 PM
Jan 2021

has run for cover, like a republicon who needs sensitivity cover

ProfessorGAC

(65,079 posts)
11. Kick Him Out
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 07:36 PM
Jan 2021

Landis too.
Besides, if we're going to keep steroid guys out, we can keep Schilling out for that.
Not sure how he dodged scrutiny, but if didn't 'roid up, he'd be the only pitcher in baseball history that picked up 3+mph on his fastball and more than 4" of break on his slider, after he was 32.
And, the bloody sock. A surface wound still bleeding after 3 days? Sounds like steroids to me.

JDC

(10,129 posts)
13. They got rid of Yawkey Way about 3 years ago.
Thu Jan 28, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jan 2021

I was in Boston when they did. I never heard anyone complain about the change.

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