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(52,309 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 02:35 PM Jan 2021

in 1776, we achieved "unity" by ignoring the 15-20 percent of americans who supported a monarchy

not all people in the colonies supported independence, and certainly not all of them supported a violent revolution. this source puts the figure at 15-20% support for monarchy, with 35-40% undecided. but with 45% support for the original patriots, america coalesced around independence.

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-ushistory/chapter/patriots-and-loyalists/


"unity" generally means that the *losers* in the *minority* put their differences aside or on hold or seek modest concessions from the majority winners. it doesn't mean uniting for the republican agenda. it means uniting behind the agenda the majority voted for.

*if* republicans were to acknowledge this (not gonna happen), *then* it might become reasonable for us to be cooperative and let them have a seat at the table and *slightly* modify our agenda. but until them, no. if they can't acknowledge the election was legitimate and that the people voted for a democratic agenda, then they don't get to even say one word about our agenda.

how can there be unity if they won't even acknowledge the will of the majority?

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in 1776, we achieved "unity" by ignoring the 15-20 percent of americans who supported a monarchy (Original Post) unblock Jan 2021 OP
Also ignored slaves, women, and the first peoples jmbar2 Jan 2021 #1
yes indeed. unblock Jan 2021 #2
Trump loyalist are freaks. pwb Jan 2021 #3
I thought the division is estimated to have been more even DavidDvorkin Jan 2021 #4

DavidDvorkin

(19,485 posts)
4. I thought the division is estimated to have been more even
Fri Jan 29, 2021, 04:06 PM
Jan 2021

One-third in favor of independence. One-third opposed. One-third no opinion, didn't care, didn't answer, "How the fuck did you get my phone number?"

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