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We can have democracy, or we can have a surveillance society, but we cannot have both.
By Shoshana Zuboff
Dr. Zuboff, a professor emeritus at Harvard Business School, is the author of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/opinion/sunday/facebook-surveillance-society-technology.html
(such a relevant article - trying hard to pick out four paragraphs to post. Too bad about the paywall - essential reading)
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The horrific depths of Donald Trumps attempted political coup ride the wave of this shadow coup, prosecuted over the last two decades by the antisocial media we once welcomed as agents of liberation. On Inauguration Day, President Biden said that democracy has prevailed and promised to restore the value of truth to its rightful place in democratic society. Nevertheless, democracy and truth remain under the highest level of threat until we defeat surveillance capitalisms other coup.
The epistemic coup proceeds in four stages.
The first is the appropriation of epistemic rights, which lays the foundation for all that follows. Surveillance capitalism originates in the discovery that companies can stake a claim to peoples lives as free raw material for the extraction of behavioral data, which they then declare their private property.
The second stage is marked by a sharp rise in epistemic inequality, defined as the difference between what I can know and what can be known about me. The third stage, which we are living through now, introduces epistemic chaos caused by the profit-driven algorithmic amplification, dissemination and microtargeting of corrupt information, much of it produced by coordinated schemes of disinformation. Its effects are felt in the real world, where they splinter shared reality, poison social discourse, paralyze democratic politics and sometimes instigate violence and death.
In the fourth stage, epistemic dominance is institutionalized, overriding democratic governance with computational governance by private surveillance capital. The machines know, and the systems decide, directed and sustained by the illegitimate authority and anti-democratic power of private surveillance capital. Each stage builds on the last. Epistemic chaos prepares the ground for epistemic dominance by weakening democratic society all too plain in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
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Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)Demsrule86
(68,735 posts)their votes counted...screw NYT...like the GOP coup is over...it is not.
aggiesal
(8,940 posts)Mister Ed
(5,945 posts)...since damn near every other sentence includes that word. Some sentences use it twice.
Now that I've looked it up, it's still hard for me to make much sense of the editorial - being, like Winnie-the-Pooh, a bear of little brain.
ep·i·ste·mic (ĕp′ĭ-stē′mĭk)
adj.
Of, relating to, or involving knowledge; cognitive.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/epistemic
NRaleighLiberal
(60,027 posts)here are a few of the top reader comments
This is one of the most outstanding commentaries the New York Times has published in a very long time. Highest praise to Professor Zuboff and the newspaper.
One of the best things about it is zeroing in on the core issues, something that Times opinion pieces sometimes fall short of doing.
This interpretation of recent political events in the context of the growth of surveillance capitalism is the best way to understand the evil of social media that I, at least, have ever read.
Implementing Professor Zuboff's program (Let's get started!) would mean the end of Facebook--at least, Facebook as we know it--as well as smaller, but (at least by degree) equally evil, social media.
Now, what better outcome can you possibly imagine, than that?
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The corporate surveillance state is no doubt a terrifying behemoth. I am surprised this piece did not make reference to the panopticon, an idea a century and a half old now. Solving the effects of the unrestricted gathering of ephemeral behavioral data and its use to precision-target messages to individuals is going to a be a very difficult quandary to solve.
However, the town-square problem has a much easier solution: Repeal Section 230, the publication immunity it enshrines for online service providers (and nobody else) is directly responsible for the scale of misinformation. Section 230 is not freedom of speech, it is freedom from liability for speech to an extent never before granted by American jurisprudence.
I say this as a Silicon Valley software engineer with a great deal of technical understanding of these systems. Section 230 has lived long past its hero days and has now become the villain. Let the chips fall where they may. You're not allowed to shout "fire" in a crowded movie theater - but you are on Facebook. That needs to change, and repealing Section 230 altogether will force social media companies to return to democratic standards of behavior with the same legal standards of liability as any publisher, like the NYT or WSJ or even Fox News.
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Brilliant. Incisive. Terrifying. Not necessarily in that order.
Shoshana Zuboffs book, title noted above at the end of her epic & essential analysis, provides a much more detailed exploration and explanation of the mechanics of the #SurveillanceState in which we have now all been suddenly immersed. As Naomi Klein put it: Everyone needs to read (Zuboffs) book as an act of digital self-defence. [yes, Canadian spelling! ]
Zuboff is this eras Rachel Carson: Zuboffs book is the information industrys Silent Spring Chris Hoofnagle, UC Berkeley
Amen to that. The truth shall make us free! Thank you Ms. Zuboff!!! And thank you New York Times for providing her this platform. Please consider removing the paywall barring this article from immediate access by the masses.
Every citizen needs to read it. And act on it. Now.
jalan48
(13,905 posts)If algorithms are feeding us knowledge based on what they think we want to hear we will be living in a closed loop system which really doesnt reflect reality. QAnon is an extreme example of where this type of technology can lead us.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)collect personal data, monetize it through the use of their algorithms and present information that is customized to each persons worldview, thus balkanizing society.
live love laugh
(13,169 posts)as I read the context. I still dont understand the word so much but I got the gist of the poorly-written op.
Hekate
(90,901 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,027 posts)hlthe2b
(102,447 posts)Lately, their editing has been uneven, to put it mildly.
Hekate
(90,901 posts)... the entire newspaper gets slammed here for being worthless as a source of news. Im sure you wouldnt do that.
In fact it remains an excellent source of in-depth reporting, but as with all human endeavors we need to read it with our critical thinking caps on. Journalists who work there have no say in the matter of opinion columnists, nor of the choice of Op-Ed pieces.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The NYT's systematic sabotage of the Democratic Party and occasionally blatant deception (as in the 10/31/2016 "what you need to know before voting" article implying the FBI's Trump-Russia investigation hadn't found anything significant in several months and was wrapping up -- NOT!) is probably as responsible as any other single factor for electing Trump and Pub majorities in congress and various state and local governments in 2016.
I believe you know their egregious role in deceiving the nation that splinter candidate Senator Sanders was a genuine contender for the presidency and that they were teaming with the Republicans and Russia in that deception.
This is studied by media experts, not just proven but measured in numbers (!) in evaluating the various means and degrees of bias. Some name names. The same people are still there, btw, including executive editor Dean Baquet.
I have a long love-hate relationship with the Times. Seemingly every election season they offer almost free come-on subscriptions. I'm currently in an off period.
burrowowl
(17,653 posts)hlthe2b
(102,447 posts)No offense to NRaleighLiberal, but this is a "thing" with me with respect to some writers, whose pomposity subsumes any credible argument.
The horrific depths of Donald Trumps attempted political coup ride the wave of this shadow coup, prosecuted over the last two decades by the antisocial media we once welcomed as agents of liberation. On Inauguration Day, President Biden said that democracy has prevailed and promised to restore the value of truth to its rightful place in democratic society. Nevertheless, democracy and truth remain under the highest level of threat until we defeat surveillance capitalisms other coup.
The epistemic coup proceeds in four stages.
The first is the appropriation of epistemic rights, which lays the foundation for all that follows. Surveillance capitalism originates in the discovery that companies can stake a claim to peoples lives as free raw material for the extraction of behavioral data, which they then declare their private property.
The second stage is marked by a sharp rise in epistemic inequality, defined as the difference between what I can know and what can be known about me. The third stage, which we are living through now, introduces epistemic chaos caused by the profit-driven algorithmic amplification, dissemination and microtargeting of corrupt information, much of it produced by coordinated schemes of disinformation. Its effects are felt in the real world, where they splinter shared reality, poison social discourse, paralyze democratic politics and sometimes instigate violence and death.
In the fourth stage, epistemic dominance is institutionalized, overriding democratic governance with computational governance by private surveillance capital. The machines know, and the systems decide, directed and sustained by the illegitimate authority and anti-democratic power of private surveillance capital. Each stage builds on the last. Epistemic chaos prepares the ground for epistemic dominance by weakening democratic society all too plain in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
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Celerity
(43,630 posts)Dr. Shoshana Zuboff is the Charles Edward Wilson Professor Emerita at Harvard Business School and a former Faculty Associate at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard Law School.
Dr. Zuboff's work is the source of many original concepts including 'surveillance capitalism', 'instrumentarian power', 'the division of learning in society', 'economies of action', 'the means of behavior modification', 'information civilization', 'computer-mediated work', the 'automate/informate' dialectic, 'abstraction of work', and 'individualization of consumption'.
take another word
like 'racism' in an article about racism
or 'COVID-19' in an article about COVID-19
and count how many times they are used
especially in a series of paragraphs that are drilling down about the concepts involved
I think the issue is that you are the one for whom 'epistemic' is a new word and therefore it sticks out for you, plus it appears you are not all that familiar with academic writing, even in a less formal manifestation like this.
The NYT article uses 'epistemic' 36 times.
Here is another article, this one from Frontiers in Psychology. It uses 'epistemic' 233 times, spread out from start to finish.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.02278/full
hlthe2b
(102,447 posts)in the medical field where new terms are introduced all the time.
I do note your insult, however, but you are quite wrong.
Good writers do NOT do this.
Celerity
(43,630 posts)hlthe2b
(102,447 posts)has chosen a word they themselves were not accustomed to using (thus my reference to a "new" word--new to the writer). It is obvious and as I stated before, such pomposity subsumes any CREDIBLE argument.
I am repelled by such, but obviously, you seem to find it appealing. Most editors would smack this down. But, to each his/her own.
Celerity
(43,630 posts)academic and posit that she is not family with a VERY basic, foundational concept in her fields of study. Epistemology is one of the four main branches of philosophy, along with metaphysics, logic, and ethics, and your attempted framing of its adjectival form (epistemic) as being a new word for her is patently ludicrous.
hlthe2b
(102,447 posts)That isn't doubling down on condescension as you say, but a basic, established principle of good writing, whether technical, expository, persuasive or narrative.
Again, a decent editor would and should have slapped that down, no matter who it is nor their reputation. It is in poor form and lazy. Most editors would have done their job. If you think not, try submitting something like this yourself for publication.
Celerity
(43,630 posts)The usage of the same word in the article was spread out other than the drill down section you cherry picked. You also complete ignored my example that showed an article with vastly more occurrences of the same word.
My replies stand on their own, and I did not have to inject logical fallacies like your 'appeal to authority' attempt (your claiming to be a published author) to make my case.
Done here,
Cheers
hlthe2b
(102,447 posts)It would, however, get you a flunking grade at any reputable university writing program and your peer-reviewed manuscript rejected--but go on thinking as you do. I'm sure you will be very successful.
Please go try it! I'll enjoy from the sidelines.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Nor does the Times necessarily endorse the substance of an opinion piece.
Celerity
(43,630 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It's worth noting that this is an opinion piece. So, the writing doesn't conform to the NYT stylebook and hasn't undergone their rigorous editorial process, and, as we all know, sometimes less admirable filtering...
Opinion pages go various ways, of course. Lying liars use them to spread propaganda, while in the same edition highly regarded experts like Dr. Zuboff may be using them to educate and focus attention on pertinent subjects and aspects not being addressed in popular media.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,503 posts)Typical marketing is crude compared to what's in use thanks to such corporate tracking systems such as facebook.
Celerity
(43,630 posts)Boomerproud
(7,973 posts)Have been doing this since they started. When you're buying anything online it's "Since you've purchased this we know you would like this..." We're so programmed to accept this that no one thinks about what it means.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,027 posts)keeping in touch with family, etc - it is still using a tool that is enabling bad behavior - so continued use means the problem will not go away.
When I left FB and Twitter more than a year ago, it felt good - continuing to use Instagram does not feel good to me, but it is the single way I am most communicating with a large gardening community - using it to teach and share. It is a love hate relationship, and I am working to find other ways to do so, as I wish to leave Instagram as well.
But it is a trap, and I loathe the control these huge social networking companies have on life itself for so many.
Boomerproud
(7,973 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,027 posts)Billytee
(106 posts)a "fourth estate" joke for quite some time.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,027 posts)and their opinions are all over the map.
The NYT and WA Post are the best we've got. There never will be a major newspaper that sees the world solidly as most of us here do.
I will continue to read and subscribe to the NYT as it is better than pretty much all alternatives.
Just my opinion of course.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)During that period, most information that the public received was from the 3 major television networks, a relatively few radio news broadcasts (also by the networks), and a shrinking number of big city newspapers, much of whose editorial content came from AP and UPI.
The result was that public opinion during the Cold War was totally managed by the establishment, and the two political parties offered only a modest leaning away from centrist establishment positions.
Currently there is a far wider array of information available on a far wider array of topics unfiltered by establishment opinion leaders. Affinity groups are able to form informally to discuss issues and advance causes. So far, the social media companies have resisted interfering with this development, at least until recent establishment pressures.
No doubt this alarms the good Professor Emeritus of an Ivy League University.