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Wounded Bear

(58,709 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:01 PM Feb 2021

I suspect a lot of arm soreness issues with shots has more to do with the skill of the shooter...

than anything else.

Haven't had mine yet, so I'm speculating a bit, but I've had a lot of shots in my life, and more than a few blood draws and the biggest causitive of soreness seemed to be the skill of the operator as much as anything.

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I suspect a lot of arm soreness issues with shots has more to do with the skill of the shooter... (Original Post) Wounded Bear Feb 2021 OP
I agree. I know some people who didn't have a sore arm at all, Liberty Belle Feb 2021 #1
I've watched a lot of shaky hands giving shots bigtree Feb 2021 #2
Probably shaky because they are not used to being televised at their job jcgoldie Feb 2021 #5
I suspect your suspicion is suspect Bradshaw3 Feb 2021 #3
frst dose d_r Feb 2021 #4
I agree. I need frequent blood draws and most are relatively painless, but... Binkie The Clown Feb 2021 #6
I have that issue too shanti Feb 2021 #29
I was tempted to get a tattoo with a circle and an arrow saying "poke here". nt Binkie The Clown Feb 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2021 #7
Jabber occupant Feb 2021 #8
Friend advises getting it in dominant arm because movement helps soothsayer Feb 2021 #9
The more you move the arm, the sooner the soreness abates. 3catwoman3 Feb 2021 #13
In boot camp, they tended to follow shot time with calisthenics... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #22
You relax your arm and it hurts less. Every time. we can do it Feb 2021 #10
I agree totally with that. Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #25
A doctor agrees zipplewrath Feb 2021 #11
Nope. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #12
That's the fact, Jack. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #14
It's an inflammation response driven by your immune system. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #15
It's possible. Denzil_DC Feb 2021 #16
Perhaps SoCalNative Feb 2021 #17
I swear tetanus is the worst. Hurts every time. Phoenix61 Feb 2021 #23
I never felt the needle. MicaelS Feb 2021 #18
The lady who delivered my shot, did it way to high on the arm. Chainfire Feb 2021 #19
Sometimes the same type of vaccinations cause muscle pain Politicub Feb 2021 #20
My parents got their shots from the same person Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #21
Correct. roamer65 Feb 2021 #24
I've had diabetes lab drawn for 15 years & believe proficiency is a definite factor. UTUSN Feb 2021 #26
Kicking for the interesting discussion Mike 03 Feb 2021 #27
The more relaxed the patient Buzz cook Feb 2021 #28
Agree. SharonClark Feb 2021 #31

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
1. I agree. I know some people who didn't have a sore arm at all,
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:03 PM
Feb 2021

and others who say it was the most painful shot they ever had.

When they start training people not used to administering vaccines to do so, you're bound to have a few issues, though each person has a different pain threshhold, too.

There are probably other factors such as some medical conditions and whether the person holds still or is startled and moves when the needle goes in.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
2. I've watched a lot of shaky hands giving shots
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:05 PM
Feb 2021

...including the dude who administered the first Covid vaccine.

Techniques range from the dart-like jab, to the press-and-push. (not technical terms, of course )

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
6. I agree. I need frequent blood draws and most are relatively painless, but...
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:08 PM
Feb 2021

once in a while I get a real "butcher" who can't seem to find the vein, or can't seem to get blood, and ends up jabbing, probing, and sometimes resorting to trying the other arm. The really skillful one make it easy. The not so skillful one can make it agony.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
29. I have that issue too
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:28 PM
Feb 2021

so I just tell the phlebotomist to poke me in the vein near my thumb/wrist. Easy peasy. They never miss that one.

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occupant

(166 posts)
8. Jabber
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:10 PM
Feb 2021

My first shot was given by a Pharmacist who was training a nice young lady. The pharmacist was not a jabber,like he was shooting darts. He was a placer. I never felt the needle at all, just the fluid entering my arm. No pain whatsoever...good guy.The next couple of days I felt it, but not anymore ! (Day 6 post shot)

3catwoman3

(24,046 posts)
13. The more you move the arm, the sooner the soreness abates.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:22 PM
Feb 2021

I tell my older school age and teenage patients, “If you walk around having a pity party, it will be sore longer, so flap those wings.”

The thinking is that moving the arm more increases circulation will speeds up absorbing and distributing the vaccine fluid.

Your friend gave you good advice.

we can do it

(12,194 posts)
10. You relax your arm and it hurts less. Every time.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:11 PM
Feb 2021

Not saying there won't be some soreness. But it will always be less if you don't contract your muscle.

Mr.Bill

(24,321 posts)
25. I agree totally with that.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:41 PM
Feb 2021

Relaxing the muscle makes a big difference, but not everyone is able to do it. It takes practice.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
11. A doctor agrees
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:11 PM
Feb 2021

A doctor friend of mine agrees. He almost stopped the tech doing his because of the specific spot the guy chose.

TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)
12. Nope.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:12 PM
Feb 2021

It has little to do with methods.

Some people react; some don't. My partner got their shot from a pro and still had significant arm soreness, particularly after the second one.

Partner has also performed thousands of shots - same thing. Some have issues; some don't.

Irish_Dem

(47,401 posts)
15. It's an inflammation response driven by your immune system.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:31 PM
Feb 2021

It is a good sign that the vaccine is doing its job.
If you move your arm around it will help move the vaccine away from the arm.

Denzil_DC

(7,257 posts)
16. It's possible.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:37 PM
Feb 2021

Also, some of the bruising I've seen in photos could be the result of not applying immediate gentle but firm pressure on the injection site.

Obviously, if anyone has any concerns they should seek medical advice.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
17. Perhaps
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:37 PM
Feb 2021

Or maybe, like other shots such as Tetanus or even the flu shot, it can cause some pain in the muscle for a few days.

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
23. I swear tetanus is the worst. Hurts every time.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:39 PM
Feb 2021

I do a lot of yard work and household repairs so I make a point of keeping up to date on it.

Chainfire

(17,641 posts)
19. The lady who delivered my shot, did it way to high on the arm.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:43 PM
Feb 2021

It is a problem while getting the shot through your car window when you are only 5-8. It was sore for two days, but I am not complaining. I hope to be sore again in ten days.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
20. Sometimes the same type of vaccinations cause muscle pain
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 12:44 PM
Feb 2021

and another times they do not.

For example, in most years, I don’t have soreness at the injection site for flu vaccine. In some years, the muscle in my arm will throb for a couple of days after the injection.

The flu shot didn’t bother me at all this year. Last year, otoh, my arm was so sore that I needed to take some ibuprofen for relief.

So, I agree that it has to do with the person giving the shot. And I would also add that the brand of the needle/syringe could also have an effect.

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
21. My parents got their shots from the same person
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:10 PM
Feb 2021

and had reactions that paralleled their flu reactions.

Every year - no matter whogives them their shots - my mother barely reacts; my father gets a sore arm and runs a fever.

Same with the COVID 19 vaccine. My father reacted more strongly than my mother.

The difference is much more tied to the immune response (and for shots - the content of the shot) than to the skill of the person holding the needle.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
24. Correct.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:40 PM
Feb 2021

I used to be a good phlebotomist when I worked in hospital as a lab tech. Nurses would see me and say the patients wanted me to do it. The patients were often happy it was me.

UTUSN

(70,741 posts)
26. I've had diabetes lab drawn for 15 years & believe proficiency is a definite factor.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 01:58 PM
Feb 2021

Many do the drawing without any pain at all. Others stab, others miss the vein and take 2 or 3 tries and claim that my veins "rolled" or are narrow due to age. My doctor wanted his two office nurses to do the lab drawing in his office. The elder nurse, for several of my years, was excellent, until in the past few years started missing. The other., younger one was nervous from the beginning of her employment, seldom got it done on the first jab. Finally when both of them were in the same missing category, and with pain, I asked to go to the lab, where all they do is draw so they are totally in practice. Been doing that for the last few years, getting the doctor's order to go to the outside lab.

I deliberately try to put them at ease, like either just greet and relax or even to the point of a mini-meditation state, but this seems to make them more nervous. The more relaxed I get the more they say, "Are you all right?!" Sometimes when it's a guy nurse, they have more of a sense of humor. I said, "Are you the one who's not going to hurt me today?" and he said, "No, that one's out. Today you got ME!1"







Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
27. Kicking for the interesting discussion
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:04 PM
Feb 2021

Nobody in my family has had the vaccine yet, although my mom just became eligible.

With the normal flu shot, my mother almost always complains of arm pain lasting a few days and for whatever lucky reason I've never even had a sore arm from the flu shot. No clue why.

Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
28. The more relaxed the patient
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 04:27 PM
Feb 2021

The less pain they feel.

While I agree that the vaccinator is the biggest determinant, a person who tenses their muscles is not going to have as much fun.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
31. Agree.
Tue Feb 2, 2021, 06:11 PM
Feb 2021

My nurse practitioner niece got her's from a National Guard drive thru and it bled and the next day her upper arm was heavily bruised.
I suggested she complain about the training the NG was given because it obviously wasn't enough.

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