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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-liberal-who-terrifies-the-gop-isnt-who-you-think-it-is-for-starters-hes-dead?via=newsletter&source=EntertainmentTAX HIKES PAY OFF
Joe Biden may be ushering in a revival of Keynesian economic principles that Republicans have lived in mortal terror of for decades.
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Ladies and gentlemen, meet the liberal todays Republicans fear most. It isnt Biden. It isnt Sanders or Harris or AOC or Elizabeth Warren. In fact, this person isnt even alive. Hes been dead for 75 years. Its John Maynard Keynes. And despite what they say for public consumption, Republicans and right-wing elites live in mortal terror of a revival of Keynesian economic principles.
Republicans have a few basic assertions they make about the economy. One, that tax cuts always stimulate activity and pay for themselves. Two, that we should let the market find solutions to problems, and if problems persist, well, the market has decided in its wisdom that they deserve to persist, hence theyre not even really problems but simple facts of economic life (inequality, notably). And three, that government spending will almost always be wasteful and do more bad than good.
All three are lies. First, weve seen over and over and over again that tax cuts, especially for the rich, do not pay for themselves. They balloon the deficit. All. The. Time.
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And its Joe Biden leading the way. That scares Republicans, too; they know that a man who carries essentially zero ideological baggage is exactly the kind of person who can make the new economic case to middle America, especially at a moment when Republicans are taking on more baggage than John Jacob Astor on the Titanic. If Biden succeeds here, the Republicans are headed for an iceberg of their own.
dawg
(10,624 posts)I don't seem to recall any fiscal austerity taking place the last four years.
The only difference is they tilt government stimulus towards the wealthy, where it is much less likely to be effective. (Lower multiplier effect)
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)From then on deficits haven't mattered to them as much as what the government was spending on.
The Republican strategy from Reagan on has been to run up the national debt. With a big enough debt, most of tax revenues will go to paying the interest on the debt mainly to the major holders of government bonds.
This will achieve the objective of diverting government income to the rentier class and squeezing out social spending.
Democrats are apparently either unaware of or willing to go along with the Republican plan.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)of history. It has made billionaires and destroyed societies.
SunSeeker
(51,709 posts)There is no level playing field. People born with capital handed to them prevail against poorer struggling entrepreneurs, even when the poorer entrepreneurs have better ideas.
Adam Smith was talking about a fantasy ideal. It has never occurred in modern industrial countries.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)It is, and always will be, utter crappola.
modrepub
(3,503 posts)Joseph Schumpeter recognized the impact entrepreneurs can have on a market, if they are allowed to function properly. Impacts from truly functioning markets under Schumpeter's principles can be very disruptive. Basically, you keep up and innovate or you get kicked out of the market (loose your job or capital investment).
The computer industry is a good example of Schumpeter principles. IBM dominated the computer/information market from the end of WW II until the 1980s. Microsoft took over in the 90s, not with hardware but software. In the last decade, I'd say Alphabet (Google) is probably the dominant player but it's entirely a morphed market. What is the "computer/information market" nowadays? Is it servers, software, data manipulation, artificial intelligence?
Properly functioning markets change. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were little guys who upended the computer big wigs. Where is IBM these days? I don't even know if they make computers anymore to be honest.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)Kept the server and software ..
Big Blue is a shadow of its former self
Lonestarblue
(10,078 posts)Then they support the fossil fuel industry with billions of dollars of taxpayer money each year, money that keeps many smaller companies from going bankrupt when the price of oil drops. A true free market would allow those companies to go bankrupt, but Republicans want to manipulate the market in these cases. Essentially, Ive always seen the Republican hypocrisy in regulation corporate welfarethey want no regulation and all the free money they can get.
The Milton Friedman school of economic theory has been a disaster for the US suked n the greatest transfer of wealth to the top ever. I hope Keynes enjoys a renaissance for a good long time.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)During wwii that oil was a national strategic necessity ... militarily ... because, without oil, planes and tanks and the machines of war were useless
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)How many libertarians does it take to change a light bulb?
None. The Free Market will take care of it.
Silent3
(15,270 posts)The opposite of a market economy is a command economy, where resources and production are allocated by authorities who try to determine and plan ahead of time who needs what.
Just look at the former USSR to see how horrendously this works out. There was still plenty of economic inequality, injustice, and environmental damage, but with less economic bounty to share.
Market economies, by contrast, are actually pretty damn amazing things in how they translate supply and demand, via market feedback mechanisms, into productive outcomes that satisfy the needs of so many people.
The big problem is that too many people are (or claim to be for political or self-enriching purposes) so impressed by the "free" market that they treat it as a magically perfect system, which no one dare interfere with, because interference can only cause worse, not better, outcomes than the magic of the Almighty Invisible Hand.
What's needed is a market economy with sensible evidence-based regulation, one that takes advantage of the power of markets, but reigns in their worst excesses and recognizes that some of the feedback mechanisms in market economies are not only less-than-perfect, but can spin wildly out of control.
elleng
(131,118 posts)All. The. Time. . .
a man who carries essentially zero ideological baggage is exactly the kind of person who can make the new economic case to middle America.'
DFW
(54,437 posts)They always look for SOME kind of ideological baggage which they can hang around a Democratic President's neck. Joe Biden had none. Not even a birth certificate. He inherited a mess from his Republican successor and said OK, let's get to work on this. NOW. TODAY.
Problem with that? Of course the Republicans had a problem with that. They messed things up badly (what else is new?), and were prepared to stifle ANY attempt to ameliorate the situation, but they wanted to know what those measures were so they could organize their united opposition. Biden knew all this. He knows full well whom he is dealing with. He got to work on day one before the radical right could organize their blocking tactics.
There are no disconcerting distractions the Republicans have in their arsenal that can faze Joe Biden. They only lame propaganda efforts coordinated with Fox Noise, and Fox, having crossed a line or two themselves of late, is having to watch its step just as a new Biden-appointed acting FCC commissioner has taken over the agency.
erronis
(15,335 posts)spooky3
(34,479 posts)That would really flummox them.
DFW
(54,437 posts)Once they get over the shock, they will back, as vicious as ever.
Joe Biden knows that a few of their poisoned arrows will always get through the phalanx. The idea is to keep up with a rapid, unceasing full frontal assault, with as many good effects filtering through to the population at large ASAP, so as to make Republican whining fall on deaf ears as more and more people see benefits from having a Democrat in the White House. Maybe a few of the Trumpanzees in the swing states will remember that next time.
I think to some degree, the Republicans believed their own lies and propaganda, instead of knowing it was BS intended for their masses. They said, OK, Biden is almost 80, how much of a powerhouse is the old guy gonna be? Oops--plenty!! They got caught up in their own fantasies. It's one thing to disseminate them for consumption by your own ignorant masses. It's quite another when you start to believe them yourself. That is when they realize that Joe is First and Goal while they are still lining up on the 50 yard line, if you know what I mean.
spooky3
(34,479 posts)you can assemble an outstanding team who can serve as a collective powerhouse.
It's also very difficult for the GOP convince the average independent that someone they have known about for years is a scary socialist.
wcmagumba
(2,892 posts)speech tournaments in 1970's high school. Keynesian ideas made more sense to me even then. Later I watched the PBS series by Milton Friedman "Free to Choose" in the 80s, a big advocate of the "free market"...still didn't make sense to me, seemed like a scam put forward by the rich (corporations and individuals). The only economic trickle down that happens (imo) is yellow in color...it is, and always has been a BS argument designed to separate the middle and lower socioeconomic classes from any real chance to increase their own wealth and stability (and education by means of inexpensive and sound public education options), giving the bulk of wealth and economic growth to the invisible hand capitalists, dogs that they are....
House of Roberts
(5,184 posts)that didn't exist in the 70s. His principles never expected a political party willing to sell out the workers of a country by moving manufacturing to the countries of geopolitical foes, thus rendering Keynesian stimulus nearly neutered in practice.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)I'm completely ignorant of economics, so, is there a 3rd grade version of Keynes? Maybe 30 min or less read?
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Be sure to watch the two Robert Reich videos too. This is how FDR handled The Great Depression and kept the country from turning fascist in the 1930s. Really.
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 7, 2021, 08:30 PM - Edit history (2)
In 1932, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt originally thought that he could offer Americans a balanced budget, so he promised one during the 1932 campaign. However, after getting elected, he soon realized how flawed that thinking was during The Great Depression. Roosevelt had at least three advisors that were fans of Keynes, and it was because of people like them that FDR adopted Keyne's ideas and America recovered as it did. Roosevelt's New Deal had key components that followed Keynes' thinking:
1. First he stabilized banks. He had enough money printed up to more closely match the amount of funds in banks. This was designed to help stop runs on banks.
2. He eventually had bank deposits guaranteed.
3. He created federal works programs like the CCC and WPA in order to give Americans a job and a paycheck to stimulate demand.
4. He forbid the ownership of gold and bought it back in order to secure the value of paper money. This helped people believe in the value of paper money and it ensured that the wages people earned would maintain value, thus ensuring consumer demand. Gold was also set at $35.00 an ounce in order to ensure that paper money always maintained its value.
5. He created organized labor laws that helped workers raise their wages.
Keynes also proposed ideas like the Bretton Woods system for monetary exchange between nations. Keynesian ideas allowed America to recover from The Great Depression and to become the most dominant superpower in the world. They also allowed the Democrats to win tons of elections. These ideas kept America strong and prosperous until the 1960s. Then American Presidents started to ignore how previous presidents operated.
Roosevelt was extremely reluctant to involve the U.S. in a war, so when Germany attacked England during WWII, Roosevelt initially just sent England supplies in secret--all while he was tripling the U.S. air force--also in secret--just in case.
In the 1960's President Johnson had a different approach. I believe that in order to ensure his election in 1964, and in order to show that he was "tough on Communism", Johnson escalated the border skirmishes in Viet Nam. This probably helped Johnson get elected, but over time, this escalation became a costly, unnecessary, bloody, and stupid war.
LBJ did not raise taxes to pay for the war until his term was almost over in 1968:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue_and_Expenditure_Control_Act_of_1968#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20'Revenue%20and,pay%20for%20the%20Vietnam%20War.&text=It%20was%20signed%20into%20law,Johnson%20on%20June%2028%2C%201968.
Unfortunately, his increase in taxes did not fully cover the costs of everything the government had to cover, including LBJ's war and LBJ's Great Society. This meant that more dollars had to be printed without economic activity to back up those dollars, which meant that in reality, the actual value of these dollars was sinking. Over time, other nations began grumbling about how the U.S. was just printing money when other countries had to actually do work in order to obtain a U.S. dollar.
When Nixon came to power, he inherited all of the expenses that LBJ left him as well as the inadequate tax base to pay these expenses. He also inherited the disgust that other nations had for the way the U.S. was at times just printing money instead of actually creating wealth. Per Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorbitant_privilege
In the Bretton Woods system put in place in 1944, U.S. dollars were convertible to gold. In France, it was called "America's exorbitant privilege"[2] as it resulted in an "asymmetric financial system" where foreigners "see themselves supporting American living standards and subsidizing American multinationals". As American economist Barry Eichengreen summarized: "It costs only a few cents for the Bureau of Engraving and Printing to produce a $100 bill, but other countries had to pony up $100 of actual goods in order to obtain one."[2] In February 1965 President Charles de Gaulle announced his intention to exchange its U.S. dollar reserves for gold at the official exchange rate. He sent the French Navy across the Atlantic to pick up the French reserve of gold and was followed by several countries. As it resulted in considerably reducing U.S. gold stock and U.S. economic influence, it led U.S. President Richard Nixon to end unilaterally the convertibility of the dollar to gold on August 15, 1971 (the "Nixon Shock" . This was meant to be a temporary measure but the dollar became permanently a floating fiat money and in October 1976, the U.S. government officially changed the definition of the dollar; references to gold were removed from statutes.[3][4]
Because the U.S. had started to print more and more money to pay for all of it's spending, foreign nations were ending up with more and more American dollars, but those dollars were being values less and less (the law of supply and demand). Eventually Germany had had enough and withdrew from Bretton Woods. Soon after, German money gained in value.
The following sums up what happened:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock#Background
However, from 1950 to 1969, as Germany and Japan recovered, the US share of the world's economic output dropped significantly, from 35% to 27%. Furthermore, a negative balance of payments, growing public debt incurred by the Vietnam War, and monetary inflation by the Federal Reserve caused the dollar to become increasingly overvalued in the 1960s.[4]
In France, the Bretton Woods system was called "America's exorbitant privilege"[5] as it resulted in an "asymmetric financial system" where non-US citizens "see themselves supporting American living standards and subsidizing American multinationals". As American economist Barry Eichengreen summarized: "It costs only a few cents for the Bureau of Engraving and Printing to produce a $100 bill, but other countries had to pony up $100 of actual goods in order to obtain one".[5] In February 1965 President Charles de Gaulle announced his intention to exchange its U.S. dollar reserves for gold at the official exchange rate.[6]
By 1966, non-US central banks held $14 billion, while the United States had only $13.2 billion in gold reserve. Of those reserves, only $3.2 billion was able to cover foreign holdings as the rest was covering domestic holdings.[7]
By 1971, the money supply had increased by 10%.[8] In May 1971, West Germany left the Bretton Woods system, unwilling to revalue the Deutsche Mark.[9] In the following three months, this move strengthened its economy. Simultaneously, the dollar dropped 7.5% against the Deutsche Mark.[9] Other nations began to demand redemption of their dollars for gold. Switzerland redeemed $50 million in July.[9] France acquired $191 million in gold.[9] On August 5, 1971, the United States Congress released a report recommending devaluation of the dollar, in an effort to protect the dollar against "foreign price-gougers".[9] On August 9, 1971, as the dollar dropped in value against European currencies, Switzerland left the Bretton Woods system.[9] The pressure began to intensify on the United States to leave Bretton Woods.
Instead of raising taxes to pay for all of the U.S. spending, or cutting spending, or doing both, Nixon took the U.S. off the gold standard. This allowed the U.S. dollar to sink in value, especially when compared to gold or other currencies. Suddenly, the U.S. dollars that oil companies were getting were worth less and less. In opposition to U.S. policies in the Middle East, as well as the sinking value of the U.S. dollar, OPEC, a cartel of oil producing nations, began deliberately reducing the amount of oil that they produced in order to increase the value of the oil that they were still producing (the law of supply and demand). The following chart shows how gold was relatively cheap when compared to the U.S. Dollar at the beginning of 1971, and how the price of gold versus the U.S. dollar skyrocketed during Nixon's term. This shows the dollar was worth less and less when compared to Gold.
https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart
Nixon claimed he believed in Keynes, yet he did things that massively undid the good things that had happened because of Keynes. Nixon removed the gold standard put in place by FDR. Nixon created the situation by which Bretton Woods was destroyed because he did not raise taxes, did not cut spending, and he also worked to sabotage the Viet Nam peace talks before the 1968 election because he figure it would help him get elected.
Nixon also pressured the Federal Reserve to keep interest rates low because Nixon feared that the economy would slow if interest rates rose. This further created inflation. All of this inflation meant that workers were actually receiving less value in their paycheck. This lowered the purchasing power of workers. Increasing oil prices meant that workers had less money to spend on things besides gasoline. During the 1970s, America experienced stagflation--a stagnant economy along with inflation--because Nixon--step by step--undid what FDR had done with Lord John Maynard Keynes's guidance.
After all of the damage Nixon did, who did conservatives blame? Of course, they blamed Keynes. Conservatives said things like "Keynes said that spending money would lower unemployment, and look at the disaster that was created". Keynes never said to spend money like a drunken sailor. After World War I, when Allied Nations were seeking to impose stiff penalties upon Germany, Keynes warned about the economic disaster that would happen to Germany and left the meetings that were happening between nations in disgust. Later, he watched as the German Weimar Republic, desperate to pay off the debts imposed by allied nations, even after France seized some of Germany's industrial base, printed money to pay off the debts and created so much hyper inflation that it took a wheelbarrow of money to buy a loaf of bread.
If anyone knew the dangers of just printing money instead of stimulating economic activity, it was Keynes. Because the world saw what happened in Germany, both Keynes and FDR knew that FDR had to raise taxes and not simply print money. Nixon paid no attention to what the world had learned from the disastrous Weimar Republic.
Nixon undid a lot of the good that FDR and Keynes did, and then Republicans blamed Keynes when Nixon undid the work that FDR did that was inspired by Keynes.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)drmeow
(5,024 posts)made me read Friedman - I hated every second of it. I also learned about Keynesian economics in the same class but, since I was already a bit of a Marxist (having written a term paper on him in HS), I didn't need Keynes to hate Friedman - Keynes just cemented that hatred!
stopwastingmymoney
(2,042 posts)But theres a bigger historical point here. If the Democrats pass a one-point-whatever-trillion dollar stimulus package, the Republicans will freak. Theyll scream about the waste. Theyll scream about the deficit.
Theyll scream about everything except what theyre really, truly afraid of: that it will work.
erronis
(15,335 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)paleotn
(17,963 posts)Biden and the Dems will reap the political capital from getting us out of this mess. Political capital that Donnie and the Repukes pissed away. They know it will cost them dearly in 2022.
leftieNanner
(15,152 posts)So his plan (which he executed in 2009-2010) is to ensure that the Democrats fail by blocking any productive and helpful legislation. Then he will scream in 2022 that the voters should put the Republicans back in charge. Problem for Mitch is that Joe Biden has SEEN that movie before and has no intention of letting him get away with it again.
marlakay
(11,498 posts)And knows all their tricks. We always thought it was Obama playing chess but the real master seems to be Joe.
lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)They can't bellyache about it. "Joe Biden's too smart!"
BootinUp
(47,188 posts)Moment when Keynesian economics makes a comeback. Paul Krugman and other salt water economists have kept hope alive for me.
dmr
(28,349 posts)Let Donald's cult stay busy fighting amongst one another while we go about repairing our beautiful nation, and winning more seats - both in DC, and locally.
mdelaguna
(471 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)If Joe Manchin doesnt obstruct Biden, Bidens legacy will be FDR-level of greatness.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)Oddly, I believe that's in part because the Republican governor of his state told him how much the state needed help.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,657 posts)IronLionZion
(45,530 posts)to show the results of stimulus during depression/recession vs tax cuts.
Back when GOP pushed through $2 Trillion in Trump tax cuts in 2017, many of us said we're going to wish we had that money available when the next recession hits. And here we are. GOP blocking aid to people during a pandemic. It would also be sweet to have the money from Bush's wars and tax cuts too.
wryter2000
(46,082 posts)When I heard Jared Bernstein at the press conference the other day. He was talking about Summers' opinion piece, and Bernstein's opinion was "Larry is wrong. Larry is wrong. Larry is wrong."
FakeNoose
(32,767 posts)It's just brain-mush, and it's the result of constant pounding by the Faux Noise and Rush Limpballs hate-radio.
turbinetree
(24,720 posts)12 Myths About Taxing the Rich | Robert Reich
Kid Berwyn
(14,964 posts)Keynesians believe in using the power of government to make life better for all.
CaptainTruth
(6,601 posts)In other words, every dollar "spent" on tax cuts generates less than $1 of economic activity (negative Return On Investment - ROI). In contrast, every dollar spent on something like infrastructure generates more than $1 of economic activity (positive ROI). Think about infrastructure spending, that dollar gets spent over & over again down the chain of everyone who works on the project, hence the positive ROI.
I saw a detailed study of this years ago by folks with PhDs in economics where they calculated rates of return for various scenarios using economic data. This phenomenon is a known fact, it's been shown to be true, & I feel like Republicans in government MUST know it, yet they continue to give tax cuts to their wealthy donors because they want to continue receiving large donations, because they care more about maintaining their positions & power than they do about actually helping the economy or helping the average American worker.
Also, all of the companies in the "free market" have no obligation whatsoever to act in the best interest of the American people. Their obligation is to maximize value for shareholders. That makes the free market VERY different from the government.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)Without publicly built airports, there is no FedEx or UPS. Airports provide invaluable economic growth.
Wounded Bear
(58,713 posts)DSandra
(999 posts)It made so much sense then that I was baffled as to why it was ultimately rejected. Keynesian economics is the opposite of right wing economics and came about because of the failure of right wing economics.
We already went down this road 90 years ago and it led to the Great Depression. It should have been buried and it had been till Milton Friedman revived it and with other far right wing ideologues, figured out how to sell it all over again to society.
Wounded Bear
(58,713 posts)but since he instituted a bunch of Keynesian based programs and principles, going right to the source works for me.
Lasher
(27,638 posts)A study of 50 years of tax cuts found that "trickle-down" economics - a concept pushed by Republican lawmakers to justify slashing taxes on the wealthy - have only benefited the rich and worsened economic inequality while failing to decrease unemployment or grow the economy.
Republicans have touted the idea popularized by Ronald Reagan that tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations would inevitably "trickle down" to workers, despite ample evidence showing that wealth has accumulated at the top while worker wages have barely budged for decades. A new working paper from researchers at the London School of Economics and Kings College's London, which looked at the effect of five decades of tax cuts for the wealthy in 18 developed countries, shows that the concept has always been flawed.
"Major tax cuts for the rich increase the top 1% share of pre-tax national income in the years following the reform. The magnitude of the effect is sizeable; on average, each major reform leads to a rise in top 1% share of pre-tax national income of 0.8 percentage points," researchers David Hope and Julian Limberg concluded.
While the tax cuts for the top 1% have obviously benefited the wealthiest taxpayers, they have failed to "trickle down."
https://www.salon.com/2020/12/27/50-year-study-of-tax-cuts-on-wealthy-shows-they-always-fail-to-trickle-down/#:~:text=A%20study%20of%2050%20years,unemployment%20or%20grow%20the%20economy
Montauk6
(8,079 posts)andym
(5,445 posts)from AOC to Bernie Sanders to even Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama, tagging Democrats as "liberals" is what the GOP does in order to demonize them with their supporters, helping cement the GOP brand. See what the GOP did to Michael Dukakis in 1988-- liberal was used as an insult against him.
Keynes' economics does not really matter to them as well-- if the economy does well the GOP now resorts to simply lying about the why.
Blue Owl
(50,505 posts)sop
(10,253 posts)and misplaced anger for their economic problems will finally be directed at the real culprit.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Xolodno
(6,401 posts)...which surprises me no one saw before. Incentive.
There is absolutely no incentive for an industry to regulate itself. CEO's, stockholders, etc. are not permanent owners of the company, if faced with a decision of long term, good for the company, but slow returns vs. short term, not good for the company long term but high return....they will choose the high return every single time. Then sell off and leave the mess for someone else.
The wealthy have no incentive to be job creators. Starting a new business is fraught with high risk, its safer to sit on the money and then wait for some small guy to start making it big, then invest in their company via securities.
Of course, I've seen Keynes derided as socialism...which I often respond, how could it be socialism when his policies are designed for a capitalist system? It just tells me how stupid people can be. I once quoted Adam Smith on facebook and a friend chimed in saying it sounded socialist....my response; "So in your words, the father of capitalism is a socialist?" The stupid, I don't thing there is a bottom.
radius777
(3,635 posts)As you said, the Repubs version of capitalism is a casino where the rich sit back and place bets, where they themselves are mostly insulated from the messes they create.
Keynesian capitalism is 'demand side' economics where the rising tide lifts all boats, where creating and sustaining a middle class is prioritized.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)this the other day and was excited about finally having Keynesian economics at the forefront again and putting a stake through the Republican tax cut, free market and anti-government (except when it benefits THEM or THEIR benefactors!) holy rolling once and for all.
And I love the "more baggage than John Jacob Astor brought on the Titanic" image, lol.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,567 posts)My sister was seriously well-educated. Very bright girl, very hard-working, won an award at the end of third year that had never before been won by anyone without at least a Master's degree.
She did her Master's at Oxford, all on scholarships and bursaries. Her thesis, now lodged forever in the Bodelian Library there, was on the North Atlantic Triangle, from an economics POV. UK, US and Canada, and their economic national interests, both cooperatively and singly.
Her career, up until a horrendous nervous system condition cut short her career and her life, was as a Policy Analyst in the Canadian federal govt. Well, where else could anyone carrying a Canadian passport and that CV work?
In short, she knew a SHITLOAD about economics. One day, I asked her what her opinion, or any opinions she had ever heard in a lecture, symposium, seminar or anywhere credible regarding Trickle Down.
She said that, in all her education and working life, she had NEVER heard anyone learned and serious bring it up. It was not even considered a serious question.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)The GQP is all about big lies. Its time cut through their bullshit and sing the praises of an economy of, for, and about the bulk of Americans. That terrifies the 1%ers because they know a Keynesian economy is the only one that really works.
BComplex
(8,066 posts)economics works, has always been what works, for the majority of the citizens. It was propaganda that moved us away from it, and propaganda that has kept us from going back to it.