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Nevilledog

(51,186 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 11:48 PM Feb 2021

Here's the ruling that OAN owes Rachel Maddow $250,000



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Jan Wolfe
@JanNWolfe
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Feb 6, 2021
Two years ago, @maddow said on her show that One America News (OAN) was "literally Russian propaganda." OAN sued for libel, seeking $10 million.

OAN didn't just lose the case. A judge just ordered it to pay MSNBC $250,000 to reimburse legal fees. (A nice win for @BoutrousTed).

Jan Wolfe
@JanNWolfe
Here's the ruling that OAN owes Rachel Maddow $250,000

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/yal3to2vaykpl6a/maddow.pdf?dl=0


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Cicada

(4,533 posts)
1. I think this is legally required in federal civil court, that loser pays atty fees of winner
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 11:55 PM
Feb 2021

Conservatives like that rule because it reduces the number of victims who sue

Many states don’t have the loser pays rule

But the UK has it and some plaintiffs go bankrupt as a result.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
5. I think it's discretionary
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:44 AM
Feb 2021

I know it’s required in U.K. but I think it’s up to the judge in our courts.

I bet she donates it. She makes $7 mm a year, so she may use it to make a statement.

RockRaven

(14,990 posts)
3. Not a lawyer. I listen to lots of legal podcasts. I believe I have heard the opposite repeatedly.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:41 AM
Feb 2021

In addition to that, the feds don't even have antiSLAPP statutes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_public_participation

SunSeeker

(51,664 posts)
8. But CA does have an anti-SLAPP law, and this case was in a CA federal court.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:54 AM
Feb 2021

So, as the ruling states, Rachel brought a Anti-SLAPP motion to didmiss under CA Code of Civil Procedure 425.16, which allow you attorneys fees if you win your Anti-SLAPP motion.

RockRaven

(14,990 posts)
10. I'm responding to the poster's notion that it is "required in federal civil court" which is not true
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 01:05 AM
Feb 2021

for federal civil lawsuits in general. I was adding on to that the fact that the subset of federal civil suits which are SLAPP are also not automatically treated thusly.

An exception, because of specific state circumstances, highlights the nonexistence of the universal rule. Thank you for adding the details.

SunSeeker

(51,664 posts)
7. No, federal civil courts don't automatically require the loser to pay atty fees.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:51 AM
Feb 2021

As the ruling states, Rachel brought an anti SLAPP (anti-Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) motion to dismiss under California state law, CA Code of Civil Procedure section 425.16. When you win an anti-SLAPP motion to dismiss, you get your attorneys fees paid by the loser under section 425.16. https://www.casp.net/california-anti-slapp-first-amendment-law-resources/statutes/c-c-p-section-425-16/

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
12. The Irony of it all ...
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 01:45 AM
Feb 2021

Anti-Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation (“anti-SLAPP”)

Rachel Maddow filed the Anti-Slapp to keep OAN from slapping her down.

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