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BREAKING: Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has opened an investigation... (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2021 OP
And so it begins... Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2021 #1
Woo hoo! Karma13612 Feb 2021 #2
Some juicy info in the article. LanternWaste Feb 2021 #3
Yep. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #15
No secret pardon will fix that. Ellipsis Feb 2021 #48
Good! Nevilledog Feb 2021 #4
Good timiing! Amaryllis Feb 2021 #5
Good to hear! pandr32 Feb 2021 #6
He's been criticized at times for the 2018 election I think bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #7
He was not SOS in 2018, that was Kemp, who refused to recuse, even while running Blue_true Feb 2021 #36
He is still a Republican and the majority of them cannot be trusted. cstanleytech Feb 2021 #47
Oooooo. This will leave a bruise. peggysue2 Feb 2021 #8
Sad, isn't it? sheshe2 Feb 2021 #17
I want to see 2021 end with Trump facing or convicted of some felonies. Blue_true Feb 2021 #38
That's what I want for Christmas at the latest rurallib Feb 2021 #56
Yes, that would be a grand way to end the year. nt Blue_true Feb 2021 #58
The truly sad thing is that Trump is guilty of murder and will not be charged with it. Dustlawyer Feb 2021 #76
Yes. It is scary to think what could have happened if that mob got their hands on Speaker Pelosi, Blue_true Feb 2021 #88
Poor Donald. EVERYBODY'S piling on! dchill Feb 2021 #9
snort sheshe2 Feb 2021 #18
Sweet Pepsidog Feb 2021 #10
Sorry Traitor45! MontanaMama Feb 2021 #11
Just remember, he's also Bettie Feb 2021 #12
+1. More political theatre 🎭 and a waste taxpayer $$$ nt live love laugh Feb 2021 #87
let the tsunami of shit headed trump's way, begin... dhill926 Feb 2021 #13
Kicking!!! Docreed2003 Feb 2021 #14
The hens are coming home to roost. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #25
oh yes, bdamomma Feb 2021 #31
That was way way out of line what trDump did to that guy,... and endangered him and his family. magicarpet Feb 2021 #16
The one good thing about him being a Mafioso Thug wannabe, GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #27
Can you believe Lindsey Graham was a JAG Officer,... magicarpet Feb 2021 #37
Sadly, yeah. I can believe it. GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #43
hope he has impeccable security detail (nt) mnmoderatedem Feb 2021 #19
Truth will out malaise Feb 2021 #20
Reich Wing Qanonsense death threats to him and his family in 3....2...1..... AZ8theist Feb 2021 #21
They've been threatening his execution since before certification for Maru Kitteh Feb 2021 #55
Hey, AZ8theist! I like that! I like that A LOT! calimary Feb 2021 #85
He confuses me. He does right in this respect and regarding moonscape Feb 2021 #22
I know. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #68
And Traildogbob Feb 2021 #23
For once... sheshe2 Feb 2021 #39
Like that bdamomma Feb 2021 #40
;) sheshe2 Feb 2021 #51
Why osteen? He is a charlatan and a thief. Speaks their language. niyad Feb 2021 #50
As a victim of hit and run, he's got tire tracks all across his back. Now he's gonna have some fun. Marcuse Feb 2021 #24
Oh yeah! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2021 #26
Does it include Lindsey? Escurumbele Feb 2021 #28
Great news bdamomma Feb 2021 #29
Be interesting to see at the impeachment Smackdown2019 Feb 2021 #30
My guess is the knife Raffensperger will use was sharpened by one Mitch McConnell. Blue_true Feb 2021 #32
Wish they could add Lindsey Graham wryter2000 Feb 2021 #33
Lindsey bdamomma Feb 2021 #42
Yup. If Trump goes down, he's not going down by himself. GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #44
Good news gademocrat7 Feb 2021 #34
Ok, now! electric_blue68 Feb 2021 #35
It's nice when once a century a republican brer cat Feb 2021 #41
Would love that we see more of that, brer. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #45
We've been trying to turn GA blue for a long time. brer cat Feb 2021 #46
Fair Fight bdamomma Feb 2021 #53
They have it on tape and the SoS of Georgia who is pushing this is republican who voted for Trump Botany Feb 2021 #49
Good for him. Hope it goes somewhere. ...nt Jarqui Feb 2021 #52
With this one, all roads lead to Lindsey? MerryBlooms Feb 2021 #54
But He's Just A Private Citizen Now..... COL Mustard Feb 2021 #57
Yup VA_Jill Feb 2021 #59
Fantastic! K&R crickets Feb 2021 #60
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2021 #61
Oh yeah! mcar Feb 2021 #62
I'll believe it when they actually slap cuffs on the orange turd. mackdaddy Feb 2021 #63
Could you do me a favor, though ... badboy67 Feb 2021 #64
If trump isn't impeached he will still be subject to state law. Nitram Feb 2021 #65
If he doesn't get convicted at the federal level.... Initech Feb 2021 #66
We need more popcorn. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #69
may this only been the beginning Squidly Feb 2021 #67
Gosh, I thought this happened already msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #70
Methinks there is so much going on that it is hard to keep up. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #71
Boy howdy ain't that the truth... and my head is spinning too! msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #72
At the very least since the election... sheshe2 Feb 2021 #73
except I'm still tuning in. which I keep trying not to do msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #74
Four years of an orange turd twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #75
Trump is going to face innumerable criminal prosecutions from all directions. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #77
K&R ! stonecutter357 Feb 2021 #78
This is why I am fine if they don't convict. He'll get his soon enough, one way or another lettucebe Feb 2021 #79
Lindsey Graham next!! nt gollygee Feb 2021 #80
I hear the presidential suite is being prepared. Marcuse Feb 2021 #81
Yes! Yes! Yes! I want to see Trump spending time in court in as many states as possible. Rabrrrrrr Feb 2021 #82
Well, Mr. Raffensperger does have some insight into the incident. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #83
Newsmax it is not cancel culture Roc2020 Feb 2021 #84
"The Secretary of State's office investigates complaints it receives,..." SpankMe Feb 2021 #86
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. Some juicy info in the article.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:11 PM
Feb 2021

"Legal experts said Trump’s phone calls may have violated at least three state criminal election laws: conspiracy to commit election fraud, criminal solicitation to commit election fraud, and intentional interference with performance of election duties. The felony and misdemeanor violations are punishable by fines or imprisonment."

bucolic_frolic

(43,340 posts)
7. He's been criticized at times for the 2018 election I think
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:13 PM
Feb 2021

but a Republican who tries to adhere to the law is a good thing.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. He was not SOS in 2018, that was Kemp, who refused to recuse, even while running
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:56 PM
Feb 2021

for Governor. Raffensperger won a runoff against a good Democrat in 2018 to become SOS. He is a repugh, with all the drawbacks, but he has tried to do some right things, which is abnormal for that crowd.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. I want to see 2021 end with Trump facing or convicted of some felonies.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:02 PM
Feb 2021

NYS is after him, not Georgia May be after him. Someone is going to get him. I believe that a person like Raffensperger is the perfect one to go after Trump, his upward trajectory in politics is limited, but by getting Trump on some felonies that ends Trump’s political career, Raffensperger won’t ever have to buy himself a drink when sitting among republicans (many of whom don’t care for Trump, but are scared shitless of him).

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
76. The truly sad thing is that Trump is guilty of murder and will not be charged with it.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:25 AM
Feb 2021

He planned the coup from way back. He fired up his base to do what they did on the 6th of January knowing, and counting on the rabid idiots to kill some politicians so he could declare Marshall law and stay in office. People died but not the ones he needed to.

This is pretty transparent but he will not be charged with murder. Too political. Powerful people get away with murder and everything else in this country and I see nothing to indicate this time will be different.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
88. Yes. It is scary to think what could have happened if that mob got their hands on Speaker Pelosi,
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:15 PM
Feb 2021

Senate President Schumer, AOC or another member of the squad, Adam Schiff, Pence or McConnell. I don’t care for Pence or McConnell, but I also don’t want to see them physically harmed. Trump would have used physical harm to a member of Congress or Pence, unfortunately as you pointed out, as a pretext to seize and hold power.

When Trump said in 2016 that he would not recognize a Hillary victory, many thought he was joking, we have seen that he was not, he would not have hesitated one second over throwing the country into utter chaos.

Bettie

(16,129 posts)
12. Just remember, he's also
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:16 PM
Feb 2021

looking into lots of ways to keep people from voting next time around.

He is no hero.

magicarpet

(14,181 posts)
16. That was way way out of line what trDump did to that guy,... and endangered him and his family.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:25 PM
Feb 2021

.... trDump thinks he is a Mafioso Thug.

Look at the audacity of this man to overthrow and trash Democracy. This gives anyone with a brain clear insight to what length trDump will go to have an election tossed in his favor. Criminal acts are no consequence to this thug,... he should be slammed for this criminality. Then trDump actively attempted to force others to act on his behalf - to enter a conspiracy of criminality. While trDump wipes dirty shoes on the Constitution and American flag. ( It is a damn good thing this guy recorded that phone call. It is unfortunate Lindsey Grahams' call was not also recorded. )

TrDump must be made to pay for these criminal transgressions against fragile Democracy or he will come back and do the same thing.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
27. The one good thing about him being a Mafioso Thug wannabe,
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:44 PM
Feb 2021

is that if he goes down, he'll take everyone else with him. Including Lindsey Graham, phone recordings, or not.

magicarpet

(14,181 posts)
37. Can you believe Lindsey Graham was a JAG Officer,...
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:00 PM
Feb 2021

... Putin or trDump must have some real nasty shit on Lindsey.

Lindsey knew damn well - he entered into a criminal conspiracy with trDump when he made that call to the Georgia Secretary of State asking to fudge the number of votes to make trDumpie the winner in Georgia.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
43. Sadly, yeah. I can believe it.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:13 PM
Feb 2021

Not every member, active or retired, of the military is a patriotic American. See: Flynn, Michael the Traitor, and his brother.

Yeah, I really want to know what Trump and Putin have on him. I don't think it's what everyone thinks it is...

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
55. They've been threatening his execution since before certification for
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 09:22 PM
Feb 2021

the offense of counting ballots not cast for their god-king.


moonscape

(4,674 posts)
22. He confuses me. He does right in this respect and regarding
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:32 PM
Feb 2021

validly of election while still working hard to suppress the vote. I did read the former was due to wanting to not denigrate their Dominion purchase but why this? Public pressure? Being totally over how abused they were? Glad he’s doing this even though I still don’t trust him.

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
68. I know.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 11:59 PM
Feb 2021

A step forward and another back.

If Raffensperger really wanted to be a hero for democracy, he would not just stand up to Trump but disavow his party’s entire voter suppression crusade.


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/01/brad-raffensperger-defended-the-election-but-not-the-right-to-vote-in-future-ones/

At least it was one step forward as opposed to two backwards. We take what we can when we can and then fight like hell to change the rest. We have good people in charge right now...it can be done.

Traildogbob

(8,828 posts)
23. And
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:33 PM
Feb 2021

Take it all the way to Lindsay Graham. Lock him up with Trump. See how long that bromance lasts in that situation. Room mates are trying. Those two in one cell.........needs live video feed. There may be open hand slaps and fainting. 24/7 MSNBC in the cell, Except Thuck Chodd. Fill that slot with Joel Olsteen hour.

Smackdown2019

(1,191 posts)
30. Be interesting to see at the impeachment
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:48 PM
Feb 2021

If I was an AG and I was going to serve an arrest warrant on an individual, a good place to serve the individual, would be at his trial!!!!!!!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
32. My guess is the knife Raffensperger will use was sharpened by one Mitch McConnell.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 07:52 PM
Feb 2021

Don’t bother dusting the knife, the prints have been wiped clean.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
44. Yup. If Trump goes down, he's not going down by himself.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:14 PM
Feb 2021

He'll damn sure take everyone else with him.

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
45. Would love that we see more of that, brer.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:14 PM
Feb 2021

Thank you Georgia. Fact is you have done so much good for America in the last two months, not sure how we can ever thank you all.

Abrams. Ossoff. Warnock. THE VOTERS.

brer cat

(24,620 posts)
46. We've been trying to turn GA blue for a long time.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:16 PM
Feb 2021

The republicans have been too successful suppressing the vote, but this year! WOW!

Botany

(70,593 posts)
49. They have it on tape and the SoS of Georgia who is pushing this is republican who voted for Trump
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 08:36 PM
Feb 2021

The transcript quotes Trump telling Raffensperger: “All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes,” which is the number Trump needed to win.

******

Sounds like an old school mafia shakedown to me.

mackdaddy

(1,528 posts)
63. I'll believe it when they actually slap cuffs on the orange turd.
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 10:27 PM
Feb 2021

Till then, this shit is the current winner for Teflon Don.

After Fitzmas and Muller letdowns and the GQP giving this bastard a pass in I am guessing two impeachment trials, he gets away with everything.

Pulls these rope-a-dope lawsuits and will be dead before anything comes up in a actual trial. He always has.
I believe he has committed dozens of felonies, and new ones constantly revealed.

He unfortunately really does seem to be above the law.

I would be thrilled to be wrong, but he will skate.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
66. If he doesn't get convicted at the federal level....
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 11:37 PM
Feb 2021

He could definitely do some time at the state level, and there will be plenty of competition for that!

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
70. Gosh, I thought this happened already
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 12:40 AM
Feb 2021

so funny, this keeps happening to me. I read a report about an action that is reported to begin, when I could have sworn I read the same report weeks ago! Maybe they were just premonitions or fantasies of what will be.

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
73. At the very least since the election...
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 12:57 AM
Feb 2021

My first impulse is not turning on the news first thing in the AM to see if our world as we know it is still standing.

That is a plus.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
74. except I'm still tuning in. which I keep trying not to do
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 01:02 AM
Feb 2021

but it's this weird habit for the past 4 years, and NOW for This Weeks Impeachment Trial Shit Show!!

hee hee, I know I'm going to appreciate the Prosecutors presentation, but turning the tv off for those cult followers side show antics.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
77. Trump is going to face innumerable criminal prosecutions from all directions.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:12 AM
Feb 2021

He will spend the rest of his life in courtrooms and jails.

lettucebe

(2,337 posts)
79. This is why I am fine if they don't convict. He'll get his soon enough, one way or another
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 12:25 PM
Feb 2021

The fool continues to commit crimes as we speak. Just a matter of time, and I'd love to see his offspring enjoy a bit of justice as well.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,354 posts)
82. Yes! Yes! Yes! I want to see Trump spending time in court in as many states as possible.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 01:18 PM
Feb 2021

Let him get whiplash from all the travel to his various court appearances, and let all the states get into a massive fight about which one gets to imprison him and clean out his bank accounts (not that he likely has very much in any of them).

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
83. Well, Mr. Raffensperger does have some insight into the incident.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 01:20 PM
Feb 2021

And he clearly thinks that things are rotten in places other than Denmark.

I've heard that "Denmark" expression my whole life, and it doesn't make a lot of sense on the surface.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
84. Newsmax it is not cancel culture
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 01:39 PM
Feb 2021

aiming for Trump. It's consequence culture. Ask the Republican secretary of state for Ga. Get it right.

SpankMe

(2,970 posts)
86. "The Secretary of State's office investigates complaints it receives,..."
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 04:33 PM
Feb 2021

Did the GA SoSs office receive any complaints from Trump's surrogates about fraud in the election? Did Trump's advocates bring any evidence credible enough to trigger an investigation?

I don't know the answer, but my hunch is no. Or, if they did, it was frivolous, speculative BS that was promptly adjudicated as not actionable.

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