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Tiedrich: seriously, why the fuck are co-conspirators Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz allowed be jurors in (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2021 OP
Because they're not really jurors. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #1
He's got a point. I'm one of those 81 million. Biophilic Feb 2021 #2
Because this isn't a trial anything like a normal court trial The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2021 #3
The Framers argued that the Senate BarackTheVote Feb 2021 #4
Hmmmmmm Wawannabe Feb 2021 #6
Yeah, why? Blue Owl Feb 2021 #5

TwilightZone

(25,485 posts)
1. Because they're not really jurors.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 01:22 PM
Feb 2021

And least not in the normal sense. It's not a criminal or civil proceeding.

For the same reason, Pat Leahy can oversee the trial and still have a vote.

A discussion on the topic from NPR:

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/22/798644714/are-the-senators-in-the-impeachment-trial-jurors-or-something-else

Biophilic

(3,697 posts)
2. He's got a point. I'm one of those 81 million.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 01:34 PM
Feb 2021

I understand that this isn't a "jury" trial and therefore they aren't really 'jurors', but it is wonderfully awful that they get a vote. What I mean is I am completely filled with wonder at how this is ok. My brain just can't wrap itself around this concept. There are a "few" things in our democracy that never were meant to work, or perhaps people never thought they would need to "work." They last four years, and now going on 5, have shown us a lot of holes and muddy puddles.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
3. Because this isn't a trial anything like a normal court trial
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 01:53 PM
Feb 2021

and it shouldn't be compared to one. It's a whole different thing.

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
4. The Framers argued that the Senate
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 01:58 PM
Feb 2021

should have the power to try impeachments because when the Constitution was written, Senator was appointed; they argued that they would be impartial because they wouldn’t need to worry about the consequences of their vote on their reelection prospects. Well, then they amended the constitution to make Senators elected and didn’t bother to rethink the whole them trying impeachment thing. So 🤷‍♂️

Wawannabe

(5,680 posts)
6. Hmmmmmm
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 09:54 AM
Feb 2021

This is good info.

Maybe we can AMEND!

This is certainly unprecedented territory and can be used to AMEND!

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