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hlthe2b

(102,379 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:41 PM Feb 2021

"Aunt Jemima" is now "Pearl Milling Company" (ummm, what?)





It's an historic day for all Americans ... who love pancakes -- "Aunt Jemima" is officially out, and Pearl Milling Company is in.

PepsiCo -- the parent company of the syrup giant -- announced Tuesday it is "starting a new day with Pearl Milling Company ... rooted in the brand's historic beginnings and its mission to create moments that matter at the breakfast table."

That's a lot of corporate-speak for ... we scrapped "Aunt Jemima" and created a new logo that's still tied to history, but without the stereotyped image of a Black woman with a headscarf in the kitchen.

PepsiCo filed to trademark the new logo on February 1. You'll recall, last summer the company said Jemima had to go after it took a look at all its brands to "ensure they reflect our values and meet our consumers' expectations."


https://www.tmz.com/2021/02/09/aunt-jemima-replaced-pearl-milling-company-name-logo/

Well, alrighty, then....?
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"Aunt Jemima" is now "Pearl Milling Company" (ummm, what?) (Original Post) hlthe2b Feb 2021 OP
Oh yah, that's gonna roll of the tongue for remembering a kennedy Feb 2021 #1
I scrolled down to read the replies, and have already forgotten the Politicub Feb 2021 #3
Yes, marketing fail. Sounds industrial. Does not invoke pancakes. nt SunSeeker Feb 2021 #5
That was my initial thought as well. Chainfire Feb 2021 #11
Yes, I kept reading it as Pearl MINING Company at first. hlthe2b Feb 2021 #14
Well, I already do. I like old historical names in general, and this one Hortensis Feb 2021 #35
It's a nod to the 19th-century company that created the original pancake mix. nt SunSeeker Feb 2021 #2
According to some historical accounts, the company didn't create the Blue_true Feb 2021 #19
Not a very tasty sounding name regardless. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #23
Yes, not the most inspired name. Blue_true Feb 2021 #25
No doubt the name change was in order. I'm just wondering if this "forgetabble" name won't be hlthe2b Feb 2021 #34
It's nice that they changed the label, but the horrid stuff inside the bottle is the same. Dem2theMax Feb 2021 #4
Wow, they even changed the pancake/syrup/pat of butter. Dagstead Bumwood Feb 2021 #6
I'm OK With It! ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #7
Good. BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #8
The new emblem is fugly. nt. Mariana Feb 2021 #9
I still call it KAF. I resent that they now have tishaLA Feb 2021 #30
I just call it "King Arthur" BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #31
Why not "Lillian Richard's?" PSPS Feb 2021 #10
Gee, that might actually right a wrong or two. Jirel Feb 2021 #15
Because she wasn't the only one xmas74 Feb 2021 #17
No. BumRushDaShow Feb 2021 #32
I like cane syrup. Chainfire Feb 2021 #12
We've got a cane grinder and syrup vat here on the farm csziggy Feb 2021 #18
When I was a really young child, my dad would go to a syrup shack. Blue_true Feb 2021 #24
Yes, I remember going to Alabama in the early 1960s csziggy Feb 2021 #26
You are lucky to have direct access to that old country store. Blue_true Feb 2021 #28
This one is a National Register of Historic Places site csziggy Feb 2021 #33
Their spicy head cheese is great. Even better than their sausage. GulfCoast66 Feb 2021 #37
I am very familiar with Bradley's Chainfire Feb 2021 #40
You can have all of mine, then Retrograde Feb 2021 #29
Since they were changing the name seems like they could've found a better one Raine Feb 2021 #13
Thanks for the heads up ecstatic Feb 2021 #16
So is Pearl Milling a person or is it the Pearl MILLING Company? JDC Feb 2021 #20
Per their press statement: hlthe2b Feb 2021 #21
Thanks. I shoulda clicked into it. Appreciate this JDC Feb 2021 #22
Minnie Pearl Pancake Mix. Got it. FSogol Feb 2021 #39
Still the same sugar syrup. Go type 2! nt JanMichael Feb 2021 #27
If you're going to consume all that sugar, just go for the real thing: pure maple syrup. Vinca Feb 2021 #36
I never put syrup on pancakes, just a little butter Klaralven Feb 2021 #38

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Well, I already do. I like old historical names in general, and this one
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 07:19 AM
Feb 2021

honors the originating company, which is usefully defunct. The succeeding ones, Quaker Oats and Pepsi-Cola (now PepsiCo), are both old also but would be confusing.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. According to some historical accounts, the company didn't create the
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:57 PM
Feb 2021

pancake mix, a Black woman did. The company milled and distributed the pancake mix.

The issue that one family had was that their relative was not compensated for her roll in bringing about the famous pancake mix. Maybe as part of the name change, PepsiCo reached a financial resolution with the woman’s family.

SunSeeker

(51,726 posts)
23. Not a very tasty sounding name regardless.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:21 PM
Feb 2021

"Log Cabin" makes me think of maple syrup.

"Pearl Milling Company" makes me think of those little white plastic nibs that are choking our oceans.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. Yes, not the most inspired name.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:55 PM
Feb 2021

But given the history involved with the mix and syrup, it was likely the safest choice.

The situation shows how thoughtless and, often brutal, past conventions were. It was ok to exploit people that didn’t have great job opportunities. It would have been better if those people had been paid respectfully for their contributions to consumer brands and to larger efforts in medicine, science and engineering, I really believe we would be looking at a drastically better world today.

hlthe2b

(102,379 posts)
34. No doubt the name change was in order. I'm just wondering if this "forgetabble" name won't be
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 06:51 AM
Feb 2021

a marketing disaster. But, they haven't been advertising, afaik, so who knows?

Dem2theMax

(9,655 posts)
4. It's nice that they changed the label, but the horrid stuff inside the bottle is the same.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:46 PM
Feb 2021

I'll stick with real maple syrup. Yum!

ProfessorGAC

(65,212 posts)
7. I'm OK With It!
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:49 PM
Feb 2021

It's the name of the company that first packaged self rising cake mixes in the 1880s, although 2 years later they sold out to a bigger company.
Quaker Oats bought that company & its brands in the 1920s.
So, it's just a throwback to its origins.

BumRushDaShow

(129,543 posts)
8. Good.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:55 PM
Feb 2021

It'll probably eventually be called "Pearl's" pancakes/syrup for short. The Aunt Jemima HAD to go.

King Arthur Flour recently revised their name and logo last year to "King Arthur Baking Company" (since they obviously sell more than flour).

BumRushDaShow

(129,543 posts)
31. I just call it "King Arthur"
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:57 PM
Feb 2021


I have a bin of their flours for baking and actually have a box of their brownie mix sitting next to me (checking how many eggs needed, etc) so I can make some in a few days...

PSPS

(13,618 posts)
10. Why not "Lillian Richard's?"
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:03 PM
Feb 2021


Family Of Woman Who Portrayed Aunt Jemima Speaks Out About Quaker Oats's Rebranding Decision
June 29, 2020

Quaker Oats announced earlier this month it's rebranding Aunt Jemima pancake mix and syrup because of its racist history. But descendants of Lillian Richard, who portrayed Aunt Jemima for years, say the company decided to rename the brand without consulting the families of the women who brought the character to life.

While Vera Harris, Richard’s niece, supports the decision and the Black Lives Matter movement, Aunt Jemima represents a part of history for her family and the town of Hawkins, Texas. “Erasing my Aunt Lillian Richard would erase a part of history,” says Harris, who serves as family historian for the Richard family of Hawkins. “All of the people in my family are happy and proud of Aunt Lillian and what she accomplished.”

Aunt Jemima portrays the white, romanticized notion of an Antebellum “mammy,” detached from the cruel reality of enslavement during the late 19th century. The inspiration for the character came from the song “Old Aunt Jemima.” Starting at the World's Fair in 1893, a formerly enslaved woman named Nancy Green was the first to travel around the country wearing an apron and bandana as Aunt Jemima.

Richard served as one of 12 brand ambassadors starting in 1925. In Hawkins, a historical marker dedicated to her commemorates how she made a career during the time when Black women had very few opportunities.

More at: https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/06/29/aunt-jemima-quaker-oats-rebrand

Jirel

(2,025 posts)
15. Gee, that might actually right a wrong or two.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:29 PM
Feb 2021

We couldn’t have that. We’re just supposed to put a thin coat of whitewash on it, and tell everyone to move on.

On the other hand, would that swill in a bottle really honor her?

xmas74

(29,676 posts)
17. Because she wasn't the only one
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:37 PM
Feb 2021

Or even the first to rep the brand. In this case how can you pick just one woman?

BumRushDaShow

(129,543 posts)
32. No.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:13 PM
Feb 2021

C.B. Stubblefield, nick-nammed "Stubbs", whipped up batches of BBQ sauce in Texas years ago and was pursuaded to bottle it and sell it. I buy it and it has his image on the label. It was HIS product.



NONE of the "Aunt Jemimas" created nor owned those products and were there because of a sick fascination that the owner of Pearl Milling Company had with "minstrel shows" (and was maintained by the subsequent owners of the brand).

I get that the family of one of the old promotion "employees" want to honor their relative for historical purposes, which at the time, was considered a "step up" from the usual mistreatment, but the damage that was done by being "used" in an oppressive and purposeful stereotypical sense, needs to be rectified.

A similar issue has occurred with Hattie McDaniel, ironically being the "first black" to win an Academy Award. But for what role? A character literally called "Mammy".

Chainfire

(17,644 posts)
12. I like cane syrup.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:17 PM
Feb 2021

preferably ground by mule power, and cooked in troughs in front of you. Syrup making was a big thing around here when I was a kid. Like many traditions it is slipping away with the generation. I don't really care for Maple syrup, it is too thin and it just doesn't taste right.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
18. We've got a cane grinder and syrup vat here on the farm
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:50 PM
Feb 2021

I never raised sugar cane but obviously someone did at some point. By the time I bought this place, they were raising pigs and selling them to the local country store for their world famous sausage. They used the syrup vat to scald the hogs after they were killed to make it easier to get the skin off.

I still go the the country store to buy their cane syrup and smoked meats.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. When I was a really young child, my dad would go to a syrup shack.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:26 PM
Feb 2021

The shack wasn’t much, just a tin roof held up by some small tree members that had been cut at the same length. Even though the Civil Rights act had been passed, the only grocery store that would (and had been before the Act was passed) serve Black people was the A&P. My parents often got things like fresh vegetables and cured meat from the Black farmers that produced the items, that was cheaper for a poor Black family and it supported Black farmers that made the stuff.

The inside of the syrup shack wasn’t much, a cauldron that was fired directly by oak wood, a grinder that grinder the juice out of the sugar cane, a funneled piece of that looked like tin or zinc that funneled the juice into a trough that dumped in the cauldron. A mule walked around in circles, powering the cane grinder. The ancient old man that owned the syrup shack would pat the mule when it was time to grind more cane and stop it once enough juice had gone into the cauldron, the mule then rested, ate and drank water. There was a large stack of fresh sugarcane on the old man’s truck, which was always parked at the back of the sugar shack. The syrup was excellent, the shack was right off the biggest highway in town, so lots of people would stop by and buy a gallon of the inexpensive but good syrup, Blacks and Whites (one of the only places where I actually met White kids my age whenever my dad stopped there).

Your post brought back a fond childhood memory. It is amazing how people made stuff then. It was simple, but for some reason, nothing needed preservatives, mostly because it was local and locals used it up right away.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
26. Yes, I remember going to Alabama in the early 1960s
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:23 PM
Feb 2021

And seeing the syrup shacks along the way. Mom would want to stop, but Dad - who had not grown up in that culture - never would. Mom had grown up in a poor white family in Central Alabama and she spent time with blacks in the area. Dad's northern parents were not at all liberal and always treated blacks badly. Dad wouldn't eat cane syrup since he'd been brought up to think it was inferior to "real" syrup.

The black family we bought this farm from were old fashioned. I never met the parents, but when we made our offer the land had been in probate for six and a half years (you have seven to finish probate) and thirteen heirs. The house never had indoor plumbing and they got the water for themselves and the pigs out of a hand dug well out in the woods. We gave them a good cash offer and they jumped on it. We've run into some of the heirs over the years. That cash payment allowed most of them to buy or build houses and they are wonderful people. One even brought his grandchildren to see where he grew up.

It's that kind of heritage that the old country store down the road preserves, which is one reason we try to buy there when we can.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. You are lucky to have direct access to that old country store.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:31 PM
Feb 2021

The few that were around when I was growing up disappeared long ago.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
33. This one is a National Register of Historic Places site
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 01:29 AM
Feb 2021

Plus they make the best smoked sausage in the world - people order it from all over. One story is an actor liked it so much he had his private jet stop over in Tallahassee so he could pick up an order.

If you're ever near Tallahassee, stop on by at Bradley's Country Store: http://www.bradleyscountrystore.com/index.php?route=common/home

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. Their spicy head cheese is great. Even better than their sausage.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 09:17 AM
Feb 2021

My grandfather had a mule powered mill, however he did not make cane syrup, but sorghum syrup which I prefer to this day. Love that strong taste.

Have a nice day.

Chainfire

(17,644 posts)
40. I am very familiar with Bradley's
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 09:41 AM
Feb 2021

I lived in Tallahassee for years and live near there still. The do make some good sausage.

Retrograde

(10,161 posts)
29. You can have all of mine, then
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:38 PM
Feb 2021

it's too thick and doesn't taste right

I always think of maple syrup as a northern thing, since that's where sugar maples grow. For reasons I can't comprehend, my sister used to give me small bottles of actual maple syrup she acquired on her trips, but always used colored corn syrup at her house. Corn and sorghum syrup I think of as southern things, along with such concoctions as Alaga syrup, which reminded me of an off-brand molasses.

ecstatic

(32,733 posts)
16. Thanks for the heads up
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:35 PM
Feb 2021

The other day I couldn't find my favorite pancake mix. I wonder if it was there under the new design and I missed it.

JDC

(10,135 posts)
20. So is Pearl Milling a person or is it the Pearl MILLING Company?
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:05 PM
Feb 2021

If the latter, Pearl Mills would have been a better choice IMO.

hlthe2b

(102,379 posts)
21. Per their press statement:
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:11 PM
Feb 2021
“Though new to store shelves, Pearl Milling Company was founded in 1888 in St. Joseph, Missouri, and was the originator of the iconic self-rising pancake mix that would later become known as Aunt Jemima,” the statement reads.

Vinca

(50,310 posts)
36. If you're going to consume all that sugar, just go for the real thing: pure maple syrup.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 08:27 AM
Feb 2021

Which reminds me it's February and "sugaring" season will start very soon up here in Vermont and New Hampshire.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
38. I never put syrup on pancakes, just a little butter
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 09:21 AM
Feb 2021

That way you can actually taste the grain.

Cane sugar is a double sugar. Each molecule consists of a glucose and a fructose molecule bound together, so it is 50% fructose by the time it enters your blood stream after the molecule is split in your gut.

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