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DSandra

(999 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 10:54 PM Feb 2021

What messages does it send if Trump is acquitted after the trial?

That a president can get away with doing a coup attempt using their supporters as long as they dance well enough around their intentions?

That a president can get away with one of the highest crimes in the republic and can also successfully intimidate with violence the legislative branch and their own party?

That mafia and banana republic tactics are now acceptable in America?


I really hope that Cyrus Vance doesn’t end up being another Mueller and Fitzgerald, our republic deserves justice.

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What messages does it send if Trump is acquitted after the trial? (Original Post) DSandra Feb 2021 OP
That the GQP senators are corrupt and cowardly. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2021 #1
It will be an embarrassing awful history lesson kimbutgar Feb 2021 #2
That Republicans are traitors just like **. nt live love laugh Feb 2021 #3
There is now modern precedent Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #4
The US is ruled in part by a corrupt and criminal cabal. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #5
We are pretty much a third world country already DSandra Feb 2021 #11
Exactly, I agree. The GOP is plunging us into third world status. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #13
Bingo. crickets Feb 2021 #12
We cannot claim we are a country with rule of law as a guiding principle. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #15
No argument from me. crickets Feb 2021 #16
Yes, exactly. And the world knows in 8 yrs we elect another sociopath. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #18
The message it sends is they are part of the conspiracy. onecaliberal Feb 2021 #6
That a Republican can do anything as president and get away with it, barring losing the election sakabatou Feb 2021 #7
The QOP is coming at us, and they will use the NCjack Feb 2021 #8
This davekriss Feb 2021 #9
Our democratic experiment will inherit a malignancy. It may very well die. triron Feb 2021 #10
Yes, it is not certain US democracy will be maintained over the long haul. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #17
That in this, as in everything else, IOKIYAAR Glorfindel Feb 2021 #14
... catbyte Feb 2021 #19
That a Republican president can get away with doing literally anything Bettie Feb 2021 #20
He will not be "acquitted" grantcart Feb 2021 #21
It will mean that a federal grand jury indictment can now proceed. Frasier Balzov Feb 2021 #22
That Repukes love their fat fucking piece of shit more than their country Blue Owl Feb 2021 #23
They get to stick it to us, right? Generic Other Feb 2021 #24

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
4. There is now modern precedent
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 10:58 PM
Feb 2021

that a president can be have an impeachment trial after he/she leaves office.

Irish_Dem

(47,130 posts)
5. The US is ruled in part by a corrupt and criminal cabal.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 10:58 PM
Feb 2021

Democracy is not safe, and the oligarchs who fund the cabal are in charge.
And half the American people are fine with this.

America drops down in status once again.

DSandra

(999 posts)
11. We are pretty much a third world country already
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:07 PM
Feb 2021

First with major economic inequality and a messed up healthcare system, now with disease, a dysfunctional political system, and coup attempts.

Irish_Dem

(47,130 posts)
13. Exactly, I agree. The GOP is plunging us into third world status.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:11 PM
Feb 2021

And we are the richest country in the history of the world.

How can we preach human rights, democracy, rule of law?
How can we pretend to be a civilized country?

crickets

(25,981 posts)
12. Bingo.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:09 PM
Feb 2021

This is another aspect of the fallout we will endure if there's a vote to acquit. The proceedings are being watched worldwide. Our good standing took a beating from trump's poor governance. It's going to be even worse if we can't be shown to hold him accountable. Our whole country will be held as hypocrites, what US is supposed to stand for will be considered nothing more than lip service. Senators voting to acquit are not just cowards trying to hang on to personal power, they are thieves robbing the country of what little good name we have left.

Irish_Dem

(47,130 posts)
15. We cannot claim we are a country with rule of law as a guiding principle.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:19 PM
Feb 2021

A sitting president sends a blood thirsty mob to kill members of congress and his VP.
All for the purpose of overturning a legal election. To retain power as a dictator.
And he is gets off with no consequences. A corrupt congress, with some members
likely to be president one day.

We cannot claim we believe in human rights with so much racial inequity.
And other violations (babies in cages, etc.)

And allowing almost half a million Americans to die due to criminal indifference and inaction.
Refusal to assist Americans in dire straights, the list goes on.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
16. No argument from me.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:28 PM
Feb 2021

eta - Biden is helping to turn a lot of this around, but he can't do it overnight and he can't do it all by himself.

Irish_Dem

(47,130 posts)
18. Yes, exactly. And the world knows in 8 yrs we elect another sociopath.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:32 PM
Feb 2021

From the corrupt GOP pool.
And we are back to third world status overnight.

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
6. The message it sends is they are part of the conspiracy.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 10:59 PM
Feb 2021

What happened is not in question. I’m so fed up with white privilege.

Irish_Dem

(47,130 posts)
17. Yes, it is not certain US democracy will be maintained over the long haul.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:30 PM
Feb 2021

Even now with voter suppression tactics, we are not a democracy.

Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
14. That in this, as in everything else, IOKIYAAR
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:11 PM
Feb 2021

It's OK if you are a rePuke. They're given a pass on everything. Teapot Dome? No big deal. Great Depression? Unfortunate, but no one's fault, really. Watergate? Boys will be boys! Grenada? Well, Reagan had to invade SOMETHING after the Marine bombings in Lebanon.
Iran/Contra? These things happen! Panama? Well, GHW Bush had to invade SOMETHING, didn't he? 9/11? Who could POSSIBLY have foreseen such a thing? It's not as if there were any warnings, after all. The endless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Well, GW Bush had to invade SOMETHING, didn't he? Trump? Meh...time to move on. Whatever happened to unity?
I'd say, "Damn them all to hell," but it would be a waste of breath and energy. They do what they do, and they get away with it.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
20. That a Republican president can get away with doing literally anything
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 12:05 AM
Feb 2021

and there will be no consequences.

That is the message.

Remember, none of this applies to Democrats. Biden will probably be impeached for wearing whimsical socks.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
21. He will not be "acquitted"
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 12:11 AM
Feb 2021

A majority of Senators will find him guilty.

Just because the number for conviction will not reach the number stipulated for a super majority does not mean he was acquitted.

After this is over the headline will be that a bipartisan majority voted for conviction.

Even more important is the percent of the public that agrees to convict. I am guessing it will be 65%

Blue Owl

(50,407 posts)
23. That Repukes love their fat fucking piece of shit more than their country
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 02:04 AM
Feb 2021

And by fat fucking piece of shit, I mean t***p

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
24. They get to stick it to us, right?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 02:05 AM
Feb 2021

Most asinine theory of governance ever. Like juvenile delinquents in gym class.

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