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kentuck

(111,103 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:59 PM Feb 2021

Those Senators that were complicit with the "Big Lie" should abstain from voting?

If they were out there pushing the lie that Trump won the election, they are not qualified to be a juror - they should be a defendant.

But, then again, it might make it very difficult to find 17 Republicans that were not pushing the "Big Lie"?

Regardless, in my opinion, this point should be part of the discussion. If they cannot abstain, it is not going to be a fair acquittal.

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Bucky

(54,027 posts)
5. November 2022 is LONG ways away.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 12:23 AM
Feb 2021

They'll have their new "Contract with America"-like marketing scheme up by then.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
3. Of course they SHOULD, but they won't.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 12:16 AM
Feb 2021

And we don't need 17 Repukes to vote to convict. The standard is 2/3 of the Senators present.

If -- for example -- 20 GrOPers stayed home that day, and 4 voted to convict, then the result would be 54-26 and Trump would be convicted. If 25 stayed home Trump could be convicted just along merely partisan lines, 50-25.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
4. Agreed. That's what real power is about. Attacking your own country and getting away with it.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 12:22 AM
Feb 2021

What do Republicans love more than power? Maybe not even money.

The Roux Comes First

(1,299 posts)
6. Oh Hell, No. Let's Just Pack the Jory With Co-conspirators
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:45 AM
Feb 2021

Of a piece with the judiciary-packing Old Turtle made a career of.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,350 posts)
7. They should abstain from showing up. "two thirds of the members present"
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:55 AM
Feb 2021

Article I, Section 3 (in part):

The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. When sitting for that purpose, they shall be on oath or affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
8. Absentions count as a "NO." Only if they do NOT SHOW UP, does it help the cause
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 08:25 AM
Feb 2021

because it decreases the denominator. But if they attend and abstain, they remain in the denominator of those "present," so in essence, it is the same as a "no" vote.

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