Lawyer: Banning ‘ex-gay’ therapy like requiring patients to embrace alcoholism

[DonViejo]

Mat Staver, the founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, said Wednesday that California’s ban on so-called “ex-gay” or “reparative” therapy was akin to telling patients to embrace their alcoholism.

“Leave it to California to come up with some bizarre law,” he said on the Faith and Freedom radio program. “This is the first time in history that a state or government has come in and told counselors on any subject, ‘you can only speak or counsel or refer on on viewpoint of that subject.’”

“It would be like them coming in to say with regards to alcohol abuse, if somebody seeks you assistance for alcohol abuse, they don’t want to actually excessively consume alcohol or drugs, you have to tell them that it is OK,” Staver continued. “You can’t tell them how to deal with that stress and eliminate those conflicts in your life and stop taking drugs or alcohol. You’ve got to tell them it’s OK. That is exactly what they have done with regards to homosexuality.”

The Liberty Counsel has filed a federal lawsuit challenging the new California law, which prohibits mental health providers in the state from attempting to change the sexual orientation of minors.


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[xchrom]

1. Mat Staver is a hate filled asshole. Nt

[Ohio Joe]

2. +1 - nt

[HappyMe]

3. Crazy how they could make out what

Staver was saying. His head being firmly up his ass and all...

[TrogL]

4. Yes. He's got it exactly right. He simply doesn't get it.

Current research shows that some people are gay and if they're having a problem with that, to approach a mental health professional to help them embrace their sexual orientation instead of fighting it.

He's assuming that there's something wrong with homosexuality, which is disproven.

[gollygee]

5. Did he just compare being gay to being an alcoholic?

Because I don't want to believe I read that.

Sigh.

[Raster]

6. Oh yes. Yes he did.

[Swede Atlanta]

7. Why are all these supposed "heterosexuals" so worried about the lives of us homosexuals?

I have never understood this.

Either they are just a bunch of miserable people that need to find someone else to attack, ridicule, hate and trample or they are in fact closeted homosexuals that are so filled with self-loathing and hatred it spews out from their pores.

This bill is about so-called "treatment" for children under the age of 18. We don't (or shouldn't) allow parents to abuse their minor children physically so why should we allow them to do something that according to most mental health care professionals is mental abuse?

This is about protecting children from "therapies" that are of questionable value and, generally accepted to be harmful. Once the "child" turns 18 they can torture them all you want.

This is about preventing parents who don't accept a child's orientation to force them through self-loathing therapy to "change" when, as a gay man, is not possible.

[Raster]

8. Just my opinion... The number one cause for the hatred is religion.

The Abrahamic religions: Christianity, Judaism and Islam are chocked full of homophobic bigotry.

Secondly, human sexuality is varied and multi-faceted. As Kinsey pointed out, there are very few completely heterosexuals and very few completely homosexuals. Instead of absolute black and absolute white, most people are varying shades of gray. Couple this with bigoted religious dogma, and you have the recipe for illogical hatred.

Many parents that are concerned that their children are gay see this is a failing of their parental responsibilities. They are judging themselves and then blaming their children.

You and I both know we were born with a large portion of our sexual identity already in place. Sexual identity is mostly nature and not nurture.

[Le Taz Hot]

9. Well, Mr. Staver,

there IS only one MEDICAL viewpoint on this so-called "therapy": IT DOESN'T WORK. Worse than IT DOESN'T WORK is that it very likely will fuck up a person for years to come as it's being perpetrated on under-age individuals during a time when they are forming their self-worth and are being told, through this "therapy" that something's wrong with them and they must be "fixed."

Any parent sending their children to these indoctrination camps disguising themselves as "therapy" need to be jailed for child abuse.