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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:13 PM Feb 2021

@Yamiche:Ran up to the Hill to check in on the trial, and in 10 mins, it was clear that things are a


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Yamiche Alcindor
@Yamiche
Ran up to the Hill to check in on the trial, and in 10 mins, it was clear that things are as partisan as predicted.

Sen Roy Blunt says Democrats showing that people were planning the attack for months made their case weaker.

Sens Rubio & Graham said their minds are unchanged.
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@Yamiche:Ran up to the Hill to check in on the trial, and in 10 mins, it was clear that things are a (Original Post) soothsayer Feb 2021 OP
They based their planning on what Trump told them. Solly Mack Feb 2021 #1
No surprise Zorro Feb 2021 #2
The only cure for this is to not vote for these folks in the future. As long as these tail-draggers walkingman Feb 2021 #3
Dumbest argument in the world. earthside Feb 2021 #4
Blunt knows Trump was priming the pump for months before the election dlk Feb 2021 #5
They own it, but they don't want to take possession of it gratuitous Feb 2021 #9
A mob like that just doesn't appear out of nowhere dlk Feb 2021 #14
That isn't even a technicality. They ALL know that. They aren't stupid... Caliman73 Feb 2021 #13
Republicans are hoping they can move on down the road, unscathed dlk Feb 2021 #15
I certainly hope so dlk. They seem to be able to hold on to enough fools to cheat to win elections. Caliman73 Feb 2021 #16
We've been living with minority rule for too long and the damage runs deep dlk Feb 2021 #17
So a football coach gets no credit for a pregame speech bc the team practiced in advance? Bleacher Creature Feb 2021 #6
Nice DarthDem Feb 2021 #11
IOW, they were never going to convict BeyondGeography Feb 2021 #7
Sadly I don't think they're changing any minds. badhair77 Feb 2021 #8
I suspected the reTHUGS would be fine with the capitol insurgency. spanone Feb 2021 #10
And you KNOW if a Dem Prez and a Dem controlled Senate did anything close to what tRump mitch96 Feb 2021 #12

Solly Mack

(90,771 posts)
1. They based their planning on what Trump told them.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:17 PM
Feb 2021

But let's not let facts get in the way. (Republican motto)

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
2. No surprise
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:17 PM
Feb 2021

The QOP has been the party of fascists for the past 50 years. Now it's obvious to anyone paying attention.

They won't and don't disapprove of Trump's incitement.

walkingman

(7,628 posts)
3. The only cure for this is to not vote for these folks in the future. As long as these tail-draggers
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:19 PM
Feb 2021

keep getting elected then we can expect America to continue on it's present path. All of the Jesus or thoughts and prayers will not help our nation. The cure is clear. Stop voting for racist, misogynist assholes.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
4. Dumbest argument in the world.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:21 PM
Feb 2021

>> Sen Roy Blunt says Democrats showing that people were planning the attack for months made their case weaker.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
5. Blunt knows Trump was priming the pump for months before the election
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:23 PM
Feb 2021

The desperate attempts to find technicalities won’t let Republicans off the hook. They own this!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. They own it, but they don't want to take possession of it
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:36 PM
Feb 2021

The House managers have been showing that January 6 wasn't some bolt from the blue, but that the pump had been primed for months and months in the days leading up to the Trump mob's insurrection. Naturally, Republicans are complaining that all this preparation makes the case against Trump weaker. If it had been a bolt from the blue, that Trump's mob had just spontaneously come together that day, then they would complain that the case against Trump was weakened under the "nobody could have foreseen" excuse they trot out when that's convenient.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
14. A mob like that just doesn't appear out of nowhere
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 02:03 PM
Feb 2021

Trump’s insurrection had been planned for awhile.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
13. That isn't even a technicality. They ALL know that. They aren't stupid...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:52 PM
Feb 2021

well some are actually really stupid, but most are just cynical assholes.

The House managers are not building their case solely on what happened on the 6th. This was something that had begun months before the election, then continued in earnest after the election. Trump set everyone up to believe that the election was going to be stolen so that they would not accept the results of the election. He talked about cheating WHILE he was actually cheating. He told his supporters that the election was stolen for months, had his stupid fake lawsuits that proved NOTHING, except to further his narrative about the "stolen" election. Of course his stupid followers were planning for months, they had been told for months, if not years, that some force was subverting their way of life.

ALL of the Republican Senators, except Tuberville (because he is dumber than a bag of hammers) likely understand that this is the case, but they don't care. They are making up weak excuses to vote to acquit.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
16. I certainly hope so dlk. They seem to be able to hold on to enough fools to cheat to win elections.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 02:42 PM
Feb 2021

You and I know them for the anti-democracy, anti-decency people they are, but they are able to fool a lot of people and keep their base motivated and a great many eligible voters suppressed to keep things close enough for them to win elections they should not.

We really, as a nation, need to do something about right wing media. It has allowed a large segment of our society to live in a situation divorced from reality. There are people who truly think that Trump one and was somehow cheated, that the stupidity that Q-Anon is spewing, is fact, and that voting for the very moderate Joe Biden, is socialism (plus, most don't even know what socialism is at all).

dlk

(11,569 posts)
17. We've been living with minority rule for too long and the damage runs deep
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 04:14 PM
Feb 2021

My hope is that, at last, significant enough numbers of Americans are paying serious attention to the devastation Republicans have wrought in every area of our lives. Their pervasive cheating to steal elections has continued, unabated which makes the irony of the “Stop the Steal” lie a monument to their endless hubris.

I agree with you about the right-wing propaganda and the ways it has severely damaged the fabric of our society. Republicans knew what they were doing when they abolished the Fairness Doctrine during Reagan’s tenure, and now to exacerbate the assaults on our democracy we have the unelected and unfettered social media companies making too many decisions about our lives, minus any accountability. When you add this to the Republicans half a century war on quality public education, the potential for disaster is being realized daily. We need a plethora of new rights, new regulations and new entities to enforce them.

There is much work to be done.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
6. So a football coach gets no credit for a pregame speech bc the team practiced in advance?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:25 PM
Feb 2021

And even though the same coach organized the practices?

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
7. IOW, they were never going to convict
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:26 PM
Feb 2021

No surprise there.

The trial is best viewed as a branding exercise. Team Raskin has performed admirably. Democrats just have to make the most of it.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
8. Sadly I don't think they're changing any minds.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:30 PM
Feb 2021

At this point it’s all being recorded for posterity which is good in the long run. It’s important to get it on the record. Now we need to work on getting better people elected.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
10. I suspected the reTHUGS would be fine with the capitol insurgency.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:36 PM
Feb 2021

The 81 million American People who voted for Joe Biden will take care of these traitors.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
12. And you KNOW if a Dem Prez and a Dem controlled Senate did anything close to what tRump
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:46 PM
Feb 2021

did they would be crying foul all over the place. Claiming they are the victims of this heinous act... They suck...
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