Impeachment Day Three notes and links to articles
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Dana DeGette: speaks of running through hallway, staircase, fear…who sent them here. Different perspective, insurrectionists made clear for DT. He sent them…his orders. Posed. Bragged. Tagged him in tweets. Not hidden crime. Believed he sent,,,no punishment.. Incited by DT. Defense said the did it on their own. Not the case…instructed to do so…for DTY…They hd clear orders…any means necessary…chanted his words…followed his words…STOP THE STEAL…Fight for Trump…Storm the Capitol. Invade the Capitol…VIDEO CLIP urging crowd to fight…
ONLINE extremist chatter…TAKE CAPITOL…”TIME TO FIGHT.CIVIL WAR IS UPON US” on Parler…Confed flags. Chanting…STOP THE STEAL…Clear who they did this for…
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Does he not know DT called us? One rioter said “He’ll be happy. We are fighting for Trump.” Again not isolated. Selfies,,,Live videos…THIS IS ME…At 4:17 DT sent pre-recorded video said “Go Home. We LOVE you…”
Told FIGHT like hell…Sandford would not be there without president…lawyers told by clients…does not exonerate…Ryan…interviewed only doing what president asked her to do….VIDEO…”following pres…doing as asked. DT requested it…” If it comes down to war we will be there…” “Digital soldiers need to come…violent racist group…many Goodwin showed PB.. STAND BACK STAND BY…Goodwin tweeted with DT photo on his TWITTER….the PBs used it as marching orders…awaiting orders. Goodwin stood ready as others broke in…he’s in bldg…..when it became clear DT left them they felt duped…Chandley (Q-Shaman) left note only matter of time…justice coming… he came at behest of president as he told FBI…Chandley there at invite of pres. His lawyer said to Cuomo CNN. His lawyer said DT asked him…many post arrest said this.
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Many express regret…FIRE BAT SIGNAL…Dominic Pozzola PB first in…COME ON DOWN… HE INVITED US DOWN…his lawyer they were invited…who lit fuse? Because he told them too. Stand Back Stand By Stop Steal….Trump sent us…
7 dead 150 injured…pain to Americans…the world…all charged being held accountable…leader must also be held accountable…insurrectionists said they were invited…
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RASKIN: HE did what DT told them to do. Spent months cultivating, riled them up, ready to undertake most dangerous mission…he knew it would incite violence…he knew from extremist groups’ comminications, Twitter, mobilized them…praise galvanized encouraged, roadtested his actions…insurrection most violent so far…his practice of incitement… some took place during…long predates…uniquely intolerable by POTUS…WS and extremist groups # 1 threat says FBI…begged him to stop them…civil war..race war.. wanted to incite for his side…Clips of incitement successfully to assault opponents (from his rallies) …he asked them to attack any protestors…
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If someone throws tomato, knock the hell out of them…I will pay legal feess…they drag aprotestor at a rall across floor…KNOCK THE HELL OUT OF THEM…sanctioned violence…praising supporters violent toward black guy…he swung audience hit back..very appropriate…
Michigan he incited violence…levelled attacks…against Witmer…DT criticized her handling of Covid…I LOVE Michigan yet your governor blames all for own ineptitude. April 2020: Liberate Michigan… supporters stormed bldg. then…aggressive…demanding to be let in…Shouted “Heil Hitler” “Shouted lock her up” Camo, armed siege…dress rehearsal… preview of coming insurrection…DT refused to condemn them…called their cause righteous…said Witmer needed to GIVE A LITTLE TO THEM PUT OUT FIRE MAKE DEAL WITH THESE GOOD PEOPLE…endangered her life. 2 weeks later they stormed again, brought a noose…chanting…DT continued to assail her for re-opening Michigan…OCT 8 13 arrested by FBI to storm statehouse start war, abduct and assassinate her.
SNATCH AND GRAB. Organaized…Considered Molotov cocktails (used on 1/6 a man with enough for eleven )…Fear manifested by bullets said these extremists…he further inflamed them…
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Vilified her, took credit for saving her, blamed ANTIFA…
Mocked her at rallies…our people helped her out with her problem…my people…
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Obvious intent…violent harm he unleashed..not a radical break from peaceful disposition…his MO.
Ready to fight like hell…most loyal followers in history…knew hardcore would assault officials lay siege…violence block transfer of power…we hear you and love you…
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Would he ever stop if he went in again your lives the cops your families…he said his conduct totally appropriate if he gets in again no one to blame but ourselves.
Lieu No remorse said DT and appropriate…untrue…wrong destructive wrong unAmerican… must hold DT accountable…not patriotic cannot follow in his footsteps…did not condemn the attack even once…not once…he says they are special he loves them…WE LOVE YOU..REMEMBER DAY FOREVER…not a man who showed remorse…took another full day to condemn attack.. then pre-recorded video 30 hours later condemns them..says they broke law and would pay…adds lie…says he deployed NG…not true two hours after…after 5. Pentagon had released list consulted before they were dep[loyed…DT not on list…as a vet I find it dishonorable…shameful…it did not say any acceptance of responsibility…
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Took DT 3 days to respond…never paid respects to the dead capitol cop…he showed no remorse or took no resp…he intended to do so…he was asked and said THEY ANALYZED MY SPEECH and ALL THOUGHT IT TOTALLY APPROPRIATE…lack of remorse…defiance…he said he’d do it again…he and future ones, run, lose, inflame, incite…attack appropriate…one week later he condemns violence…no place in country and movement…he needed to mean these word…he was not forceful or loud, takes no responsibility, does not say one sentence would stop future violence – election not stolen…still hasn’t why we have NG patrolling still…forced to acknowledge…behind closed doors still refused to acknowledge, refused transition, inauguration, focused ire on GOP.
Clips showing even shaken GOP saying he abandoned sacred OATH (MITCH), Graham others condemned it…DARKEST HOUR IN OUR NATION’S HISTORY. Mattis said mob rule, blamed DT, John Kelly WHAT HAPPENED AS DIRECT RESULT OF POISONING MINDS…WITH LIES … echoed by former DT official after official…CLIPS…Blood on hands….
No regrets, wrong signal…broke solemn oath…enough enough…he can contest of course but he was dishonorable unAmerican caused deaths…spread lies…told base it was acceptable…why he is so dangerous…that any who come after can do anything…lack of remorse…impeach disqualification is about future…lack of remorse means causing future havoc…he can he even lose…I am not afraid of him running…but he put lives in grave danger…Gonzalez: says he abandoned post…BIPARTISAN IMPEACHMENT vote in history…what others said: Done never seen before…role insurrection undeniable…direct threat to future f Democracy…make clear how we feel…convict… not only the beginning…
More discussion of DTs conduct…Retweeting Griffin exhorting the death of Democrats…a man arrested…still praised by DT…organizers, PB, Oathkeepers, the mob all afraid after…stood down…insurrection sequel prevented by NG. No access…peaceful path price…dimming of freedom…but inciting violence has inspired them….new coalitions…mob brought differing ideological goals together to attack and undermine…they all talked to each other…celebrated on social media… Nick Fuentes…he said what can we do besides kill them…he was there…glorious he said because DT supporters…provocateur…also Boogaloo Boys “working overtime to capitalize lead to more…PB members bragged “People saw what we can do…want in…” Enrique Torrio…boon for recruitment said Chris Hill…Holt an expert said far-right extremist the first stab in greater revolution…racial and ethnic tension will grow motivate attacks… in addition DVEs incited to go after racial-ethnic, LGBTQ, etc Elements seen…hurled racial slurs…Auschwitz guy…a lot of racism…racial slurs…trying to survive said Capitol cop…cried let it out processed it…
Cippolini: The fear staffers felt…hiding, sounds of window panes popping…officers 81 +65 city cops maimed, eyes gouged, beaten, stun gun, officers that said scarier than time in combat…verbally denigrated them..when casting vote honor them…their deaths and sacrifices…he even mourns the loss on other side…DT mob defiled sacred bldg., statuary hall rotunda…honored place….clips of wreckage…
Cippolini: The fear staffers felt…hiding, sounds of window panes popping…officers 81 +65 city cops maimed, eyes gouged, beaten, stun gun, Injuries concussions, bats poles clubs lost tip of finger, spinal injuries ribs, gouged eyes, death…officers that said scarier than time in combat…verbally denigrated them..when casting vote to honor them…their deaths and sacrifices…he even mourns the loss on other side…DT mob defiled sacred bldg., statuary hall rotunda…honored place….clips of wreckage…vandals destruction, ripped down Lewis’s sign, destroyed the speaker’s office…to stop the steal… but still we prevailed….it was attack on those elected to preserve democracy…
CASTRO: Laptop missing … Incited…preserve and protect his oath violated…sophisticated military meant to protect strongest most expensive.. and yet they breached th sacred place…Congress declared war eleven times! Wow. History made Civil rights women…The cops must find what was stolen, destroyed etc. Pelosi’s laptop, Security breaches. Intell agencies have to search …classified info breached… saw a dress rehearsal that capitol can be taken…saw how easy… vulnerability….all gave bldgs security away…..quotes Rubio saying it!
Chinese posted Capitol to compare Hong Kong democracy movement to USA insurrectionists…Russia said Democracy over…this is the last… the bottom…America has lost right to set course or impose on others…using DT’s incitement…
Stand up for rule of law it can’t stand up for itself…
NEGUSE: 1st amendment will be their argument…free speech…indignantly say 1st amendment protects this. NOOOOO…followers stop the steal as we were counting the votes…they were primed for violence…in the middle of that explosive situation he created powederkeg over months…he struck the match to the bldg. and us…If you choose insurrection over the constitution, nothing left to say…
Raskin: Classic case of incitement…1st amendment no defense…Brandenberg defense…DT does not go to jail just is disqualified…no one protected for what he did…he swore an oath, duty law faithfully executed… Cheney: Greatest betrayal of a president in history…He didn’t say fire in crowded theater he was fire chief who set fire and watched it burn….
Voltaire: “I disagree defend your right to say…anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you do atrocities…”
Lieu: House debated, passed on a bipartisan vote. (NOTE: it was partisan. Most GOP voted no. )
Y’all gonna see full presentation of evidence…DT is receiving due process…Senate can do the same…
Raskin: All should agree if A PRESIDENT incites insurrection is impeachable offense. To prevent and deter but then commit a dangerous offense against the republic…to stop them…violence insurrection what could be worse…weapons sticks poles deface and trash to stop a free fair election then sit in delight…violates sacred oath profound dereliction of duty…how to hold accountable what is impeachable if this is not…the assert his conduct totally appropriate then any president can do this sets new precedent for conduct of any future president. Incitement is evidence-based and we COMMEND YOUR SCRUPULOUS ATTENTION TO THE EVIDENCE (HAHAHAHAHAHA)….they will say they never proved this or that and we stayed up night after night to offer this evidence because we love our country…that DT committed the offense and you must convict…
NEGUSE: WHETHER DT INCITEd. Was violence foreseeable did he encourage violence and did he do it willfully. Predictable that crowd on a hair-trigger if provoked. Of course… He knew…we’ve shown the evidence, images, articles…the big lie…
2nd MAGA rally 1/5 kept tweeting that fight just begun…fights broke after he tweeted…fights, stabbings, rally violence, 50 mil. In ads to those folks (NOTE: Effing CNN to their shame ran them too. I saw them)…widely recognized warnings….he knew how to provoke, how to incite…took as violent call to attack…FBI credible threats…6 arrests the night before…did he call for peace the days before..spread lie more…
CONCEDE…THE PHRASE YOU PEOPLE CAME UP WITH “STOP THE STEAL…” (NOTE does he mean Stone Brooks’ brothers 2000 rioters and Bannon came up with? That Rove came up with?) Fight hard…NEVER CONCEDE…directed ire to Congress, pointed at the Capitol and If you don’t fight like hell, you will lose your country…implied OK to break law…when you catch someone in fraud you are allowed to go by different rules.
RASKIN: STRANGERS IN A STRANGE LAND (indeed)...
15 GOP Senators not even there today...per Obermann...
RASKIN: Sovereign interests of people. The Senate will decide on Tuesday. Given them jurisdiction…trial on fact…incitement fact heavy…every relevant fact we know…defense we hope will know that facts must be examined not Constitutional argument which has been voted down…not frivolous or wrong but not relevant…16 hours for them: Questions we would ask DT when he refused to testify. Why did DT not stop attack when he learned and not for 2 hours…and why no help for 2 hours…why never condemn that day insurrection…if he did invite as we allege, in general would that be a high crime and misdemeanor…common sense all needed even without learning accessible to all what the community has in common…1776 Tom Paine – kings queens and tyrants win – Paine said this: These are time that try men and women’s souls…summer soldier sunshine patriot will shrink from duty, but the men and women who stand in sunshine…(I lost end of quote sorry Tom P…).
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My dear friend said this of America today: Poor bird. Maybe one day her broken wings will mend and she will fly again. Two wings don't know they belong to the same bird. Feathers all with different powers...May hatred meet his shadows and mirrors head on and not be able to fly away until healed....
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