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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:20 PM Feb 2021

Trump's defense team expected to finish its arguments in one day



By Kaitlan Collins, CNN

Updated 12:02 PM ET, Thu February 11, 2021

Washington (CNN)Former President Donald Trump's defense team expects to finish its arguments in the Senate's impeachment trial by Friday night, two sources tell CNN.

His lawyers will take the Senate floor on Friday after impeachment managers wrap up on Thursday, but they are not currently expected to use all of their allotted time. Each side gets 16 hours for presentations.

Attorneys David Schoen, Bruce Castor, Michael van der Veen and William Brennan are all expected to speak during Friday's arguments, according to a person familiar with the latest plan. Using videos of Democratic lawmakers, they plan to argue that Democrats glorified violence by recreating the January 6 riot, will claim the trial is unconstitutional and stress Trump's First Amendment rights.

Because the legal team is so disorganized, Trump's allies are apprehensive about how the defense will go. Trump erupted Tuesday as Castor made a meandering opening argument during which he praised the prosecutors.

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Trump's defense team expected to finish its arguments in one day (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2021 OP
yeap there is only so much meandering and bullshit spewing you can do. drray23 Feb 2021 #1
What can they offer in defense? PirateRo Feb 2021 #3
What can they offer? Whataboutisms. sop Feb 2021 #7
Are you suggesting a democratic president led a revolt against Congress? PirateRo Feb 2021 #8
I assume you're responding to me? sop Feb 2021 #9
Thanks, I had logic in class, I know the argument PirateRo Feb 2021 #10
Shifting blame to the Democrats... N_E_1 for Tennis Feb 2021 #2
What could they possibly say to defend this asshole bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #4
Evidence of violence is glorifying violence? Solly Mack Feb 2021 #5
They could simply say "Defense rests" Pantagruel Feb 2021 #6
Will be shocked if they can use all 8 hours DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #11

drray23

(7,633 posts)
1. yeap there is only so much meandering and bullshit spewing you can do.
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:24 PM
Feb 2021

It will go like
unconstitutional blalblablabla BLM blablablabla Hillary Clinton blablablablabla
with maybe a bit of witchhunt, we need unity, etc.. sprinkled in.

PirateRo

(933 posts)
3. What can they offer in defense?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:31 PM
Feb 2021

Are they going to make up a bedtime story? Are they going to obfuscate with noise, disjointed phrases interspersed with some key phrases for an Insurrection Bingo card?

This is a monster!

sop

(10,193 posts)
9. I assume you're responding to me?
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 02:41 PM
Feb 2021

Definition of Whataboutism: "a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument...Whataboutism is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda."

As for Trump's lawyers' defense tactics...watch for lots of violent videos involving BLM and Antifa.

PirateRo

(933 posts)
10. Thanks, I had logic in class, I know the argument
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 05:49 PM
Feb 2021

I understand the point you are making about this kind of defense, but it still not the same. I agree, they may pull in BLM protests and trying to compare that to the insurrection against the capitol but anyone looking at this will understand the two are not the same, nor even remotely related. One is a protest and the other an attempted coup. Yes, they can use this as a red herring to try to confuse or derail someone from understanding the situation but those people simply aren’t watching this to begin with.

It would be even more damaging to the GOP if they try to sell that to the American public. The media will shoot it down immediately, as they should, and so will the closing statements. More importantly, that river of loss in Republican Party members will turn into a flood. If anything, something like that will will spur the creation of another political party that will server to split the republican vote. Given the state of the party, that’s good news but I don’t think it’s the end the party wants. The single best thing they can do is sink tRump.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,734 posts)
2. Shifting blame to the Democrats...
Thu Feb 11, 2021, 01:30 PM
Feb 2021

Not showing evidence...glorifying violence.

THOSE ARE TRUMPS FOLLOWERS. THEY. DID. IT.

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