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So Nikki Haley denounces Trump. Big whooping deal. (Original Post) yellowcanine Feb 2021 OP
Well, there goes her chances for 2024 Ohiogal Feb 2021 #1
Does she want a medal? Freakin moran BSdetect Feb 2021 #2
Why the 180 so quickly?? kentuck Feb 2021 #3
She knows a person that has lost the senate, the house, and the presidency will patricia92243 Feb 2021 #7
She made the statement about him falling, a month ago. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #21
Because she is what she has always been--a craven opportunist. GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #22
She knows trumps downfall is only now a matter of time, duforsure Feb 2021 #4
She really can't decide what her future will be as far as livetohike Feb 2021 #5
This is significant Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #6
It's rather rotten that he would do something like that to a good Christian like Mike Pence... kentuck Feb 2021 #8
No, I'm afraid it's not. She said that on Jan 12th. Antiquity in GQP World. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #24
"Like, I'm disgusted by it." Like, we're disgusted by you. Go away. RussellCattle Feb 2021 #35
it's not a huge deal, but this is what we wanted from the trial RAB910 Feb 2021 #9
Absolutely! patricia92243 Feb 2021 #11
Agreed. Apart from haley's personal feeligs, her comments suggest there is empedocles Feb 2021 #14
Agreed padah513 Feb 2021 #17
They can never see the truth until after they leave Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #10
"He was someone who cared about the country ". SergeStorms Feb 2021 #33
I do not trust her . . . Iliyah Feb 2021 #12
Neither am I.. msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #13
This week. She's been back and forth so many times even HER head is spinning. George II Feb 2021 #15
Is This for Real? NonPC Feb 2021 #16
It's for real, but it was January 12th. She has of course reversed her position since then. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #26
Here is one -Don Viejo's post of CNN clip MadLinguist Feb 2021 #29
She is stumping for her new role in the new Republican diocese Wawannabe Feb 2021 #18
haley v harris. What extremes will the anti-women/anti-woc go to? empedocles Feb 2021 #39
That was a month ago. Since then, she defended Trump. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #19
It's not about that. It's about positioning herself as a future presidential candidate. ancianita Feb 2021 #20
I agree about the too late part, but it is an indication that Trump is not going to be important in Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #23
Political opportunists are opportunistic. GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #25
My sentiments exactly MaryMagdaline Feb 2021 #27
Fake Asshole JI7 Feb 2021 #28
From d.u. CNN's John Berman: Nikki Haley turning on Trump is a big deal Fullduplexxx Feb 2021 #30
A rat that deserts a sinking ship ... jb5150 Feb 2021 #31
She is not to be trusted. TNNurse Feb 2021 #32
Agree, but she thinks this is OK to do now Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #34
Wow, what a brave move! xxqqqzme Feb 2021 #36
Nikki sees the writing on the wall. PatrickforO Feb 2021 #37
I get that Nikki Haley is a phony doing this for political expediency. But what I like about Mike 03 Feb 2021 #38
She's looking at being the reasonable conservative alternative Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #40
Right out the MTG Playbook! colorado_ufo Feb 2021 #41
Like the cult will vote for her dalton99a Feb 2021 #42
That interview was January 12th. She is full TRUMPETTE again. lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #43
She's in a lose lose situation. Goodheart Feb 2021 #44
She rode that horse as far as she could. Now she's getting off, claiming StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #45
Too late. You were warned Roc2020 Feb 2021 #46

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
3. Why the 180 so quickly??
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:18 AM
Feb 2021

It was just last week she was saying that everyone should get off his back.

What kind of Machiavellian political move is she trying to make??

patricia92243

(12,604 posts)
7. She knows a person that has lost the senate, the house, and the presidency will
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:25 AM
Feb 2021

not be of any help in the future. Trump will fade away and not be of any influence to the Republican party by the next election.

The rest of them can't seem to understand this - but Nicky has caught on.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. She made the statement about him falling, a month ago.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:46 AM
Feb 2021

Her current position is to defend him.

I don't see why everybody is making a big deal of this story, unless it's just to embarrass her. In which case, I'm all for it.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
22. Because she is what she has always been--a craven opportunist.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:46 AM
Feb 2021

Nikki only cares about what's best for Nikki. Just search "Nikki Haley opportunist." That'll tell you everything you need to know about her.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. She knows trumps downfall is only now a matter of time,
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:19 AM
Feb 2021

And trump and his minions and family are going to be exposed, and finished in politics, and will be facing consequences for many , many crimes. She's smartly trying to get out in front of this now, but she did work for him.

livetohike

(22,165 posts)
5. She really can't decide what her future will be as far as
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:19 AM
Feb 2021

backing Trump or denouncing Trump. She’s going nowhere in 2024.

Johnny2X2X

(19,139 posts)
6. This is significant
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:21 AM
Feb 2021

“We need to acknowledge he let us down,” Haley, who served in her ambassador role under Trump, said. “He went down a path he shouldn’t have, and we shouldn’t have followed him, and we shouldn’t have listened to him. And we can’t let that ever happen again.”

“When I tell you I’m angry, it’s an understatement,” Haley told Politico. “I am so disappointed in the fact that [despite] the loyalty and friendship he had with Mike Pence, that he would do that to him. Like, I’m disgusted by it.”

Haley was thought to be the future and his most likely 2024 running mate. Now with the GOP, we've seen them kiss and make up after worse than this, but Nikki will have trouble explaining this to Trump cult members in the coming years.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
8. It's rather rotten that he would do something like that to a good Christian like Mike Pence...
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:28 AM
Feb 2021

...

And why did he wait so long and do nothing as his life was threatened??

RAB910

(3,515 posts)
9. it's not a huge deal, but this is what we wanted from the trial
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:31 AM
Feb 2021

we wanted more and more people to turn on trump

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
14. Agreed. Apart from haley's personal feeligs, her comments suggest there is
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:41 AM
Feb 2021

movement among her voters away from trump - a good thing.

padah513

(2,508 posts)
17. Agreed
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:43 AM
Feb 2021

If we can get just one head to turn and have a closer look, then maybe other heads will follow. She's on the moderate side of the spectrum, so there's a glimmer of hope, though not much. Trump has all these guys pooping their diapers.

Johnny2X2X

(19,139 posts)
10. They can never see the truth until after they leave
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:33 AM
Feb 2021

“At the time, I didn’t think that was dangerous,” Haley said. “I didn’t think that there was anything to fear about him. There was nothing to fear about him when I worked for him. I mean, he may have been brash. He may have been blunt. But he was someone who cared about the country. … I still stand by that. I don’t think we should ever apologize for the policies that we fought for and the things that we did during his four years. Since the election—” she stopped herself. “I mean, I’m deeply disturbed by what’s happened to him.”

Haley repeated these sentiments over the course of a two-hour conversation: “Never did I think he would spiral out like this. … I don’t feel like I know who he is anymore. … The person that I worked with is not the person that I have watched since the election.”

This is a pattern with Trump aids, they get away from him and say stuff like tis all the time, like he's changed. He hasn't changed, you've changed. He was just as crazy before, you were just caught up in it at the time and spent all your time defending his craziness. Nikki, you were part of this, Trump is your legacy, you enabled and empowered his regime which ended with Trump trying to end our Democracy and have his enemies murdered, including the VP.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
33. "He was someone who cared about the country ".
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 10:04 AM
Feb 2021

Yes, Nikki, he cared SO MUCH he decided to let hundreds of thousands of Americans die from an insidious disease while he played golf and tweeted all day.

If she truly believes that, she's just as bad as Hair Drumpf.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
13. Neither am I..
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:39 AM
Feb 2021

While able to wear a thin veneer of a state actor, her cynical motives still comes through and is glaringly obvious.

She fancies herself as presidential contender and when she begins campaigning she'll throw trump steaks out to his followers.

But because she's a person of color and is female, she is the Republican party's perfect foil to give cover over their racism, sexism and trumpism.

NonPC

(308 posts)
16. Is This for Real?
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:42 AM
Feb 2021

This must be a reference to an article from The Onion.

I can't believe Nikki would turn on Trump. She would rather remain silent than to publicly cross him.

Can you site the source?

Wawannabe

(5,681 posts)
18. She is stumping for her new role in the new Republican diocese
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:43 AM
Feb 2021

She wants to be the first woman President-not Kamala Harris.

The country is gonna elect a woman next presidential cycle.
Haley’s bet is it is gonna be her at the top of the new Republican diocese against our girl Kamala.

ancianita

(36,141 posts)
20. It's not about that. It's about positioning herself as a future presidential candidate.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:46 AM
Feb 2021

Realize that two factions, the party remnants and the cult, are already in campaign mode.

Rubio, Haley on the one hand; Hawley, Cruz on the other

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
23. I agree about the too late part, but it is an indication that Trump is not going to be important in
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:46 AM
Feb 2021

future years.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
25. Political opportunists are opportunistic.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 09:48 AM
Feb 2021

Typical Nikki Haley. She blows with the political winds, and only does what's good for Nikki. Not sure why anyone is surprised. This is how she has always been, even back to when she was a state senator

Johnny2X2X

(19,139 posts)
34. Agree, but she thinks this is OK to do now
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 10:05 AM
Feb 2021

Haley is an opportunist, she would never do anything to harm herself politically, this was calculated. If Haley thinks it's OK to start trashing Trump, others will follow.

This could be the start of the GOP Civil War, if extremists like Haley are speaking out against Trump, the divisions are deeper than I thought.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
36. Wow, what a brave move!
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 10:44 AM
Feb 2021

She must have suffered through many sleepless nights wrestling with that decision.


Typical rethug! Sticks her toe in the water, checks which way the wind is blowing. Has she announced her PAC too or just the result of her soul searching struggle?

PatrickforO

(14,593 posts)
37. Nikki sees the writing on the wall.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 10:48 AM
Feb 2021

Lindsey, Ted, Josh, that Gosar - they are too 'in it,' too committed, so see that Trumpism is already on the way out with the vast majority of Americans.

Nikki wants to be the first woman prez.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
38. I get that Nikki Haley is a phony doing this for political expediency. But what I like about
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 10:51 AM
Feb 2021

it is that it will enrage Trump and he will waste at least a week ruminating and planning his revenge.

The more sidetracked by rage and vengeance Trump is, the worse it is for his health. He is losing his grip on power, realizes it, and will become even more self-destructive as a consequence.

So two things can be true: Haley is a fraud. Haley throwing shade at Trump is a good thing.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
40. She's looking at being the reasonable conservative alternative
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 10:55 AM
Feb 2021

to Trump or some other fascist extremist like Hawley in 2024.

colorado_ufo

(5,738 posts)
41. Right out the MTG Playbook!
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 11:18 AM
Feb 2021

" I was deceived!" "It's all the media's - or somebody's - fault!"

I really can't stand this woman.

Goodheart

(5,345 posts)
44. She's in a lose lose situation.
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:04 PM
Feb 2021

She wants to be president but both trump loyalty and trump opposition are cancerous right now. I think she chose the more advantageous of the two toxins, however.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
45. She rode that horse as far as she could. Now she's getting off, claiming
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:07 PM
Feb 2021

she shouldn't have ever gotten on - while taking full advantage of the fact the horse got her this far.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
46. Too late. You were warned
Fri Feb 12, 2021, 12:14 PM
Feb 2021

the 'Rs' were warned. You didn't listen. Your party didn't listen. And now you will be forever attached to a Traitor. Good luck.

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