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imanamerican63

(13,808 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 11:48 AM Feb 2021

This crap show was brought to you by Trump Corrupt Inc.!

All this is a production of Trump!

I know the managers were given new evidence. But I wonder if this was all a plan by the GOPers about the phone call? It is a stall tacit and it may burn the defense in the end?

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This crap show was brought to you by Trump Corrupt Inc.! (Original Post) imanamerican63 Feb 2021 OP
Say it ain't so!!!!! nt FeelingBlue Feb 2021 #1
I think it's time to end this thing calguy Feb 2021 #2
Good point! imanamerican63 Feb 2021 #3
Agreed. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #5
So as Graham said bdamomma Feb 2021 #4
Any amount of energy given to change an unchangeable outcome is a waste calguy Feb 2021 #6
He's not entirely wrong. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #7
Just a question bdamomma Feb 2021 #8
He likely changed it as a strategic move. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #9
so this strategic move bdamomma Feb 2021 #10
He thinks it will benefit the defense. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #11
If it was a stall tactic, doubt all the dems would have voted for it, so IMO this is a good thing lettucebe Feb 2021 #12

calguy

(5,324 posts)
2. I think it's time to end this thing
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 11:57 AM
Feb 2021

The verdict is already known. A complete and thorough investigation takes huge amounts of time that we don't have. I think the best move is to wrap this up this weekend, free up the Senate to confirm Merrick Garland as the AG, and let him take it from here. I see no point in letting this suck any more oxygen out of Joe Biden's agenda momentum.

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
5. Agreed.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:01 PM
Feb 2021

It also would allow various jurisdictions to pursue prosecution, should they so choose. I think some are waiting for this to be over.

bdamomma

(63,917 posts)
4. So as Graham said
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 11:58 AM
Feb 2021

calling witnesses is opening a can of worms????? And stopping the Congress from other business??? Can't we walk and chew at the same time???

calguy

(5,324 posts)
6. Any amount of energy given to change an unchangeable outcome is a waste
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:03 PM
Feb 2021

Sure we can walk and chew gum at the same time, but time is finite. We don't get it back. As long as anymore time is spent on impeachment we are not spending100% of our time working on Joe Biden's agenda.

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
7. He's not entirely wrong.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:03 PM
Feb 2021

This does have the potential to soak up all the oxygen in the room and to stall Biden's agenda, including getting Garland approved.

Best-case, we call relevant witnesses to serve a specific purpose and keep things moving along. The GOP will try to make it into a shit-show. Well, more than they already have.

bdamomma

(63,917 posts)
8. Just a question
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:11 PM
Feb 2021

can Graham be pressured to change his vote back to no??? Is this a catch 22? Damned if you, damned if you don't??? Are we being (hate to say this) being set up?

Hey, I'm not a politician, I will leave to this Schumer. But I do not trust Graham or any of those Seditionists.

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
9. He likely changed it as a strategic move.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:13 PM
Feb 2021

He wants to reserve the right to call his own witnesses. He's free to vote that way because it was going to pass anyway. He obviously waited until it was going to pass to switch.

TwilightZone

(25,473 posts)
11. He thinks it will benefit the defense.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:21 PM
Feb 2021

From what I understand, however, the Senate votes to approve each witness individually, so the Dems could presumably cut off any nonsense witnesses. So, it might not accomplish what he thinks it will accomplish. I think he's just leaving the option open so he and Trump's attorneys can grandstand about it.

van der Veen seems to have the same misunderstanding - he called for 100 depositions. I don't think it works that way.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
12. If it was a stall tactic, doubt all the dems would have voted for it, so IMO this is a good thing
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 12:36 PM
Feb 2021

The trial managers are not a bunch of dimwits. They know what they are doing.

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