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tanyev

(42,564 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:29 PM Feb 2021

Question for DU smart people re: boil water notice

I’m not under one yet, but some areas around me are. I have a supply of Potable Aqua tablets. Would that be sufficient for water treatment or would I still need to boil?

Also, these tablets are a few years old, but I don’t see an expiry date on the little bottle. Does that make a difference in your answer?

ETA: Just checked my Amazon account and the tablets might be as recent as June 2020 or as old as August 2017.


Thanks for any answers.

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Question for DU smart people re: boil water notice (Original Post) tanyev Feb 2021 OP
I would boil the water... orwell Feb 2021 #1
Just boil it. procon Feb 2021 #6
I'd boil the water .I believe CDC recommends boiling for a min of 1-3 minutes depending on elevation Kaleva Feb 2021 #2
Those are iodine and chloride tablets and yes will disinfect water for bacterial contamination. But, hlthe2b Feb 2021 #3
+1. dalton99a Feb 2021 #8
most water purification systems sold for hikers do kill protozoan parasites. drray23 Feb 2021 #11
That is the filtration that is addressing the protozoans, NOT the Iodine or Chloride tablets hlthe2b Feb 2021 #12
Boil first. If you can't boil, go for option two, even if you got them yesterday. marble falls Feb 2021 #4
I would check with the provider of your water. Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #5
Looks like a unanimous recommendation to boil. tanyev Feb 2021 #7
much easier if you have electricity! Skittles Feb 2021 #16
Oh yes. I've been very fortunate with that, tanyev Feb 2021 #17
Very doable with the outside bar-b-que dixiegrrrrl Feb 2021 #22
Those tablets make water taste awful. Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #9
Well that's good to know. tanyev Feb 2021 #10
One cap full or tablespoon of bleach per gallon, let stand for an hour, will sterilize it. TheBlackAdder Feb 2021 #13
Boil It ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #14
i'd boil. when milw had cryptosporidium, apparently the bug survived heavy disinfectant according pansypoo53219 Feb 2021 #15
I would definitely boil.... even tank water Peacetrain Feb 2021 #18
If you don't have a Katadyn filter, boil it jmowreader Feb 2021 #19
Thank you, I just looked at the Katadyn website. tanyev Feb 2021 #21
You can also make water drinkable by using very small amounts of Clorox. raccoon Feb 2021 #20

orwell

(7,773 posts)
1. I would boil the water...
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:31 PM
Feb 2021

...especially if there is any doubt about the tablet's efficacy.

FWIW I have done IT support for public water companies. When they issue a boil water notice it is for a reason.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. Just boil it.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:38 PM
Feb 2021

Put a large covered pot, clean plastic tub or bucket outside in the cold and just keep boiling smaller pots of water to fill up your outside storage containers.

No worries about having safe drinking water if you boil it long enough.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
2. I'd boil the water .I believe CDC recommends boiling for a min of 1-3 minutes depending on elevation
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:34 PM
Feb 2021

hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
3. Those are iodine and chloride tablets and yes will disinfect water for bacterial contamination. But,
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:35 PM
Feb 2021

protozoan parasites (cryptosporidium, cyclospora, giardia) may or may not be killed, as chlorine disinfection alone does not kill their spores. A municipal water system that has been offline can allow these parasites through since their filtration systems can be overwhelmed.

So, your tablets can be used--but boiling for a roiling boil at least one-thee minutes may be the better option. Especially if the water is cloudy (consider filtering though a coffee filter, if so first).

drray23

(7,633 posts)
11. most water purification systems sold for hikers do kill protozoan parasites.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:59 PM
Feb 2021

the technology has evolved way beyond simple tablets.

For example, I use a sawyer squeeze water system.
From their specs:

Hollow-fiber membrane filter removes 99.99999% of all bacteria, such as salmonella, cholera and E.coli; removes 99.9999% of all protozoa, such as giardia and Cryptosporidium

I am not putting a link to it because that could be flagged as commercial spam? but you can google for it.

Now, even thought it works well, this is not practical for filtering large quantities. Its good for survival situations however.


hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
12. That is the filtration that is addressing the protozoans, NOT the Iodine or Chloride tablets
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 07:16 PM
Feb 2021

There are many species of Cryptosporidium that infect animals, some of which also infect humans. The parasite is protected by an outer shell that allows it to survive outside the body for long periods of time and makes it very tolerant to chlorine disinfection.

This is why we have Crypto (and cyclosporidium)- related swimming pool outbreaks every year--despite high levels of chlorine use.

As I said previously, municipal water systems that have been offline may stagnate with particulate matter, rendering their filtration abilities temporarily insufficient. It is for THAT reason, that boiling is the better option.

Can you use tablets with your hiking/camping filtration system. Sure. The combination should be similarly effective as long as you let any debris settle first.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
5. I would check with the provider of your water.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:38 PM
Feb 2021

It could make a difference whatever the water is contaminated with.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
22. Very doable with the outside bar-b-que
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 05:24 PM
Feb 2021


We had hot coffee water and hot soups using the BBQ, last time we lost power a couple months ago.
BBQ on the back deck, not in the house, just to clarify.

Now we have a 3 burner camping stove with extra propane bottles, can use that in the roofed carport if needs be.
I have a strong feeling we will need to use it at some point down the road.

tanyev

(42,564 posts)
10. Well that's good to know.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 06:53 PM
Feb 2021

I’ve never used them before and don’t even remember why I got them. Some Trump debacle, I’m sure, but at this point there have been so many.

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
13. One cap full or tablespoon of bleach per gallon, let stand for an hour, will sterilize it.
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 07:24 PM
Feb 2021

.

While it will have a slight bleach taste, it will be potable and will not be harmful to ingest.

This is if you do not have access to filtered and boiled water.

Do not eat icicles as they often contain bird poop and other fecal matter. Also, not the first hour of snow and not the last bit but the stuff in the middle will be cleaner.

.

ProfessorGAC

(65,058 posts)
14. Boil It
Wed Feb 17, 2021, 08:06 PM
Feb 2021

As mentioned, iodine tabs are not completely effective against all biologics. The vast majority, but not all.
In addition, low molecular weight organics are easily removed with activated carbon beds in a water supply facility.
But, if they don't have full power, I wouldn't trust them to be working.
Boiling removes these as they are very low level and more volatile than water.
The purification tabs do nothing to those possible contaminants.
So, there's 2 reasons to boil.

pansypoo53219

(20,978 posts)
15. i'd boil. when milw had cryptosporidium, apparently the bug survived heavy disinfectant according
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 01:39 AM
Feb 2021

to the book 'the coming plague' i read.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
18. I would definitely boil.... even tank water
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 10:31 AM
Feb 2021

because with all the pipes bursting everything would be contaminated by now.. unless you have access to tank water that has been there since prior to the emergency.. which by now is I am sure a big old NO!..

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
19. If you don't have a Katadyn filter, boil it
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 10:38 AM
Feb 2021

Katadyn filters will remove anything but viruses from your water, including bacteria. However, they’re ultra expensive...hundreds of dollars expensive.

tanyev

(42,564 posts)
21. Thank you, I just looked at the Katadyn website.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 10:52 AM
Feb 2021

I have no outdoorsy experience, so that is all new info for me. Not much help at the moment of course, but something I could have on hand in the future.

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