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Footage of damage in Texas as result of the cold snap is beyond depressing. (Original Post) tenderfoot Feb 2021 OP
Does it have to take something like this for Texas Republicans to believe in climate change? DSandra Feb 2021 #1
Never mind Texas Republicans, they are irredeemable. AZ8theist Feb 2021 #10
The 1st video I saw on the news earlier. She started sobbing then I started... sprinkleeninow Feb 2021 #2
Wow, things are really bad down there. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #3
So heartbreaking lillypaddle Feb 2021 #4
One of my relatives had a flood like in that first picture. The problem is pnwmom Feb 2021 #5
_ LudwigPastorius Feb 2021 #6
Erica Simon needs to learn how to spell spigot. cwydro Feb 2021 #7
Keep mocking the democrats and their government regulations that insure adequate infrastructure. usaf-vet Feb 2021 #8
Right wing heaven misanthrope Feb 2021 #9
Well, if the town-destroying fertilizer plant explosions didn't open their eyes, maybe this will. NBachers Feb 2021 #11
the bird... so sad Demovictory9 Feb 2021 #12
Is the bird real? mainer Feb 2021 #14
I wonder too BeerBarrelPolka Feb 2021 #16
Do they not require shut off valves? randr Feb 2021 #13
I just wish BeerBarrelPolka Feb 2021 #15
Cross-post from Daily Kos - 10s Of 1,000s Of TX Houses May Be Worthless Soon hatrack Feb 2021 #17
Nearly all new home builds in good-sized cities are done by developers. tanyev Feb 2021 #20
Next up: massive insurance rate increases, higher fossil fuel sinkingfeeling Feb 2021 #18
First couple of vids don't make much sense to me Jersey Devil Feb 2021 #19

DSandra

(999 posts)
1. Does it have to take something like this for Texas Republicans to believe in climate change?
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 03:24 AM
Feb 2021

Or is it really just about hating science because religion sees it as the enemy?

Still, this shows that there are big consequences to pretending that reality doesn’t exist.

The saddest thing is to all the innocent that are being hurt and killed partially from the idiocy of Texas’ little child type rebellious spirit.

AZ8theist

(5,507 posts)
10. Never mind Texas Republicans, they are irredeemable.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 05:05 AM
Feb 2021

What about the rest of Texas? What will it take for the citizens of that state (and this country) to vote OUT EVERY SINGLE REPUKE in government before it's too late???

What's it going to take???

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. Wow, things are really bad down there.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 03:41 AM
Feb 2021

I am so sorry for everyone who is going through it. Something about that frozen bird, though, really horrified me. It just seemed apocalyptic.

I have friends down in Houston (transplants) who are managing, but not having an easy time of it.

pnwmom

(108,999 posts)
5. One of my relatives had a flood like in that first picture. The problem is
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:37 AM
Feb 2021

builders put uninsulated water lines in attics. So when it gets too cold, the pipes burst, and ceilings can come crashing down.

usaf-vet

(6,215 posts)
8. Keep mocking the democrats and their government regulations that insure adequate infrastructure.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 04:49 AM
Feb 2021

We have had 14 days of subzero weather.

We have not lost our power for even a second. Our roads are plowed. Our stores are open. Police and fire protection is running on all cylinders.

Kids are going to school. It's 02:40 in the morning, and the outside temp right now is -10 degrees.

Oh! Just wait until the power comes back on and the cracked, now frozen pipes thaw. There will be lots more flooded homes.

I hope that succession works out for you.

Remember the old TV ad PAY ME NOW OR PAY ME LATER. This didn't have to happen. Your state GOVERNMENT FAILED YOU.

NBachers

(17,149 posts)
11. Well, if the town-destroying fertilizer plant explosions didn't open their eyes, maybe this will.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 05:41 AM
Feb 2021

How are things working out for that new Tesla Giga Texas plant?

Is Larry Ellison freezing his ass off in a burst-pipe office at the new Oracle headquarters?

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
16. I wonder too
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 09:15 AM
Feb 2021

I'm sorry if I upset anyone, but the weather down there isn't "that" bad. It's much colder here and the animals are out. But I'm not an ornithologist.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
15. I just wish
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 09:08 AM
Feb 2021

Your thread title read, "Footage of damage in Texas as result of the Republican Politicians is beyond depressing."

This situation was totally avoidable. To me, this is more of a man-made disaster.

I'm not busting on you OP. I'm just pissed for the Texans.

hatrack

(59,593 posts)
17. Cross-post from Daily Kos - 10s Of 1,000s Of TX Houses May Be Worthless Soon
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 09:34 AM
Feb 2021

We had a house in Texas. A mass builder, and oh, let’s say we learned how not to do it. Did you know that a house could have brick, then foamboard, then drywall? No plywood. Yes. And most of the McMansions in Texas, the newly built resource dragging unsustainable “boom” so often talked about, are what we call crackerboxes. If we ever build a house again, it will not be through a developer. It will be custom. One of the big problems with these houses, hundreds of thousands of them, is the plumbing. The pipes run through exterior walls. Why? Cheaper, and it doesn’t get cold there often. But if it does get cold, here is what HGTV says to do:

If the water pipes are freezing inside the exterior wall, cut an opening in the wall to expose the pipes to the home's warm air. Place fiberglass insulation behind the pipes, between the pipes and the home's exterior wall. The hole in the wall can be covered later with a hinged door or a panel that can be removed during cold spells.

Fantastic. So just keep my house at 70 or so, and it should be no problem, because the walls will stay warm. Good to know.

EDIT

Is that hyperbole? I hope so. I hope it is wildly inaccurate speculation, but if half the state has no power, and north Texas is below freezing until Friday, hotels are overbooked, and roads are shut down, uh..you do the math. Shortages will persist. And as the state thaws, tens of thousands of homes are likely going to be flooded from burst pipes, which by the way, might not be an insured peril. Why? Because insurance companies require homes to be kept at a minimum temperature to cover burst pipes.

Clearly these homes have not been heated to a minimum temperature. Also clearly, this is not at all the fault of homeowners. But let me ask you this, in a nightmarish scenario, where insurers realize they cannot cover 2 million claims, they ask you a simple question:
Does your policy say “Your home must be kept to a minimum temperature or your home must be kept to a minimum temperature except when circumstances beyond your control prevent it? It says the former, or most likely, “all reasonable efforts to maintain temp.” Define reasonable efforts. And before you scoff, I just want to say, I have seen insurers, both good and bad, and I have to think if this ends up in anybody’s lap, it will be ERCOT’s, but nevertheless, get your claims in early, because sooner or later, when reality hits, loopholes will be searched out.

EDIT

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/2/17/2016615/-Tens-of-Thousands-of-Texas-Homes-May-Be-Worthless-Soon

tanyev

(42,627 posts)
20. Nearly all new home builds in good-sized cities are done by developers.
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 10:29 AM
Feb 2021

We occasionally talked about building our own and doing it right, but we would have had to move much further out of city limits than we want to live. I guess that’s another reason why some people tear down existing houses and build new ones on the property, but that’s way out of our budget.

sinkingfeeling

(51,477 posts)
18. Next up: massive insurance rate increases, higher fossil fuel
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 09:47 AM
Feb 2021

prices, and higher grocery prices, in the middle of a pandemic and mass unemployment.

Jersey Devil

(9,875 posts)
19. First couple of vids don't make much sense to me
Thu Feb 18, 2021, 10:18 AM
Feb 2021

OK, I get it about how pipes can freeze and flood the house, but why didn't someone turn the water off at the meter when the pipes burst? I had this happen at an uncle's vacant house when a real estate broker accidentally shut off the furnace while showing the house and a neighbor called me to tell me water was pouring out of the side of the home, but if people live there they can just shut the water off.

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