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comradebillyboy

(10,168 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:06 PM Feb 2021

AOC slams Biden administration for reopening Texas facility to detain migrant children

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday criticized the Biden administration for reopening a detention facility in Texas to house hundreds of immigrant teenagers after they cross the U.S.-Mexico border unaccompanied by a parent.

“This is not okay, never has been okay, never will be okay - no matter the administration or party,” The New York Democrat tweeted in response to the move by the administration.

“It’s only 2 [months] into this admin & our fraught, unjust immigration system will not transform in that time. That’s why bold reimagination is so [important],” she said, adding in a separate tweet that “DHS shouldn’t exist, agencies should be reorganized, ICE gotta go, ban for-profit detention, create climate refugee status & more.”


https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/540269-aoc-slams-biden-administration-for-reopening-texas

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AOC slams Biden administration for reopening Texas facility to detain migrant children (Original Post) comradebillyboy Feb 2021 OP
DURec leftstreet Feb 2021 #1
Does AOC think it would be better to just abandon them comradebillyboy Feb 2021 #2
I think you mean AOC? Typo from OAC still_one Feb 2021 #3
Oops, thanks for letting me know. comradebillyboy Feb 2021 #9
Those aren't the only two options, of course. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #6
actually they are only being put there until they find either the family or sponsers dsc Feb 2021 #10
The kind of "shelter" they're put in, who runs it, the policies that govern it and the rules WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2021 #13
they are here now dsc Feb 2021 #14
She said nothing about abandoning them. What she thinks should be done is in her next tweet Autumn Feb 2021 #8
No, she doesn't say what should be done in her next tweet. As you point out, she says.... George II Feb 2021 #35
She did a series of them. Odd that you think she should solve the problem instead of bringing Autumn Feb 2021 #43
Yes she's not in charge. But everything that she said "should be done" would NOT solve.... George II Feb 2021 #44
Why don't you look it up? There are a lot of articles and interviews about it. One can't Autumn Feb 2021 #46
No one has yet said what they should do with those children while they "overhaul".... George II Feb 2021 #47
The Biden Admin isn't 2 months old, it's 36 days. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #49
They are hiring case . . . Iliyah Feb 2021 #11
"But what are they doing TODAY???" Why wasn't this taken care of at 12:01 PM on Jan 20? George II Feb 2021 #45
Thank you for the facts. nt sheshe2 Feb 2021 #50
A couple hours later, AOC then walked it back. From what I heard. LizBeth Feb 2021 #4
Her heart is in the right place most of the time. It's her mouth that gets ahead of her brain... brush Feb 2021 #15
+1. I agree LizBeth Feb 2021 #20
She's been hostile to Biden ever since she comradebillyboy Feb 2021 #21
And to Speaker Pelosi. Her calling herself a democratic socialist was a mistake. brush Feb 2021 #23
She still needs to learn to make allies of her colleagues instead comradebillyboy Feb 2021 #26
You're exactly right. Green energy is her key issue so being denied that Energy and... brush Feb 2021 #27
Hi... how did she "..walk it back"?.. TY Did Cha Feb 2021 #29
(sort of) speak easy Feb 2021 #31
That's "Sort of" nice.. Cha Feb 2021 #32
Not according to CNN this morning, unless they're ignoring it. George II Feb 2021 #41
Where would Rep Ocasio-Cortez suggest where we house these folks? still_one Feb 2021 #5
Good question.. how about solutions Cha Feb 2021 #48
Could it be more obvious she is getting ready to primary Schumer? redstatebluegirl Feb 2021 #7
No it's not obvious at all Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #12
She'd best reconsider that notion. A second term Rep challenging the Senate Majority Leader? brush Feb 2021 #16
There is no evidence that Dem4Life1102 Feb 2021 #18
Good. brush Feb 2021 #24
No, no it is not. nt Celerity Feb 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author redstatebluegirl Feb 2021 #19
I never said it would be foolish, I offered no opinion on the odds if she did run. Celerity Feb 2021 #22
I hope she does. That would be an interesting primary. George II Feb 2021 #42
I watch MSNBC but have not seen much coverage ChazII Feb 2021 #25
I think it was just one of her tweets, but it's interesting R B Garr Feb 2021 #28
She went off half-cocked.... again. NT Happy Hoosier Feb 2021 #30
She should look into just what that facility is, the accommodations, and what the alternative is. George II Feb 2021 #33
TY Pres Biden.. Lawyers have found 105 parents &.. Cha Feb 2021 #34
What about a temporary opening because of COVID-19 is so terrible? betsuni Feb 2021 #36
AOC doesn't appear to see any difference between them. comradebillyboy Feb 2021 #37
Some people immediately assume bad intentions of Democrats betsuni Feb 2021 #39
Very true. Malignant bothsiderism is a cancer comradebillyboy Feb 2021 #40
Ordinarily, I'm not much of a fan. Ms. Toad Feb 2021 #38

comradebillyboy

(10,168 posts)
2. Does AOC think it would be better to just abandon them
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:11 PM
Feb 2021

to homelessness while waiting for sponsors to take them in? She tweets before she thinks.

dsc

(52,164 posts)
10. actually they are only being put there until they find either the family or sponsers
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:29 PM
Feb 2021

so yea, it pretty much is the only other option.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,376 posts)
13. The kind of "shelter" they're put in, who runs it, the policies that govern it and the rules
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:33 PM
Feb 2021

people in it must follow are all along the spectrum of possibilities.

dsc

(52,164 posts)
14. they are here now
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:44 PM
Feb 2021

I don't see any facility that isn't going to be run by govt employees that make them stay apart for COVID sake so it is going to be somewhat like, at best, a very sterile orphanage.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
8. She said nothing about abandoning them. What she thinks should be done is in her next tweet
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:26 PM
Feb 2021

It often takes more than one tweet to get an idea across

“DHS shouldn’t exist, agencies should be reorganized, ICE gotta go, ban for-profit detention, create climate refugee status & more.”


She's as usual, right and her tweets are always well thought out.

George II

(67,782 posts)
35. No, she doesn't say what should be done in her next tweet. As you point out, she says....
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:51 AM
Feb 2021

"DHS shouldn't exist, agencies should be reorganized, ICE gotta go, ban for-profit detention, create climate refugee status & more.”

That does NOT address the immediate need for what we should do for those children today.

Will getting rid of DHS and ICE help them TODAY or TOMORROW???? NO.

And what is "create climate refugee status"? What is "and more"?????

Let's help those children today - TODAY!!

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
43. She did a series of them. Odd that you think she should solve the problem instead of bringing
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:16 AM
Feb 2021

attention to it. You do know she's not in charge? Yet. Nothing can be done without first getting ideas out there.

She's absolutely right. DHS should not exist agencies need to be be reorganized, ICE gotta go, NOW, ban for-profit detention, create climate refugee status & more.” Even I understand the part about creating a climate refugee status, we need it. AS for more? Why don't you ask her George?











George II

(67,782 posts)
44. Yes she's not in charge. But everything that she said "should be done" would NOT solve....
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:22 AM
Feb 2021

....the immediate problem of having children in custody without their parents.

How would she deal with those TODAY to help them with the immediate situation in their lives? Hmmmm?

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
46. Why don't you look it up? There are a lot of articles and interviews about it. One can't
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:30 AM
Feb 2021

flesh out policy ideas on Twitter George. But I'm sure you know that. I'll give you one article and you can go from there.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-immigration-reform-aoc-jayapal-b1793785.html

Jayapal, AOC and progressive Democrats push ‘overhaul’ of US immigration system
Democrats pitch ‘bold, progressive, visionary north star for what humane immigration policy looks like’

A group of progressive Democrats in Congress is urging President Joe Biden to commit to immigration reform that not only rescinds Donald Trump’s draconian agenda but also follows a set of humane guiding principles for future policies.

US House Rep Pramila Jayapal, chair of the Progressive Caucus, has drafted a Roadmap to Freedom resolution with immigration advocates that outlines a “bold, progressive, visionary north star for what humane immigration policy looks like”, she told reporters on Wednesday.

The five-pronged resolution endorsed by more than 60 civil rights and immigrant advocacy groups centres on family unity, immigrants’ access to social services, protections for front line workers, ending police militarisation in border communities, and alternatives to detention and deportation.

“We are not simply reversing the hateful immigration policies of the last four years,” Rep Jayapal said.
The nation’s “racist, xenophobic immigration system has been broken for decades,” she added. “We need to finally leave the nation’s long history of criminalizing immigration and leaving families behind.”

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. No one has yet said what they should do with those children while they "overhaul"....
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:53 AM
Feb 2021

....the immigration system.

These children have been in the custody of the government for a while, they're in custody TODAY, what should they do instead of what they are doing?

Nobody has any suggestions.

Going out for a walk. Byeeee.

sheshe2

(83,833 posts)
49. The Biden Admin isn't 2 months old, it's 36 days.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 07:35 PM
Feb 2021
“It’s only 2 [months] into this admin & our fraught, unjust immigration system will not transform in that time.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
11. They are hiring case . . .
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:29 PM
Feb 2021

managers for the children to find a suitable places to live and will have the protection from several security firms while they wait. Decent food, shelter and essentials will be provided unlike the shitty treatment from shithole and crew. They will even allow congresscritters to inspect when ever they want to.

That is my understanding.

George II

(67,782 posts)
45. "But what are they doing TODAY???" Why wasn't this taken care of at 12:01 PM on Jan 20?
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:30 AM
Feb 2021

Like a switch is thrown and all the ills of the last four years will be resolved instantly.

brush

(53,801 posts)
15. Her heart is in the right place most of the time. It's her mouth that gets ahead of her brain...
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:57 PM
Feb 2021

Last edited Wed Feb 24, 2021, 04:00 PM - Edit history (2)

sometimes. Biden has been in office a little more than one month, not two months, and covid vaccinations are a priority, as is the relief bill and getting cabinet members confirmed. She has to have realized housing at that facility is temporary, thus the walk back.

brush

(53,801 posts)
23. And to Speaker Pelosi. Her calling herself a democratic socialist was a mistake.
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 03:25 PM
Feb 2021

Last edited Wed Feb 24, 2021, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)

I think she's backed off on that as it's evident that socialism and defund the police contributed to us losing several House seats. Some of her colleagues even chastised her immediately after the election about that.

She learning. The fundraising for Texas was a beautiful thing and will stand her well in the future.

comradebillyboy

(10,168 posts)
26. She still needs to learn to make allies of her colleagues instead
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 04:21 PM
Feb 2021

of alienating them at every opportunity. That's why her Democratic colleagues voted 46-13 to deny her a seat on the House Committee on Energy and Commerce.

brush

(53,801 posts)
27. You're exactly right. Green energy is her key issue so being denied that Energy and...
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 04:28 PM
Feb 2021

Commerce committee must've been a huge come down for her. You can't go around targeting other Dems to primary and not suffer consequences.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
29. Hi... how did she "..walk it back"?.. TY Did
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:13 AM
Feb 2021

she apologize to the ". Biden Admin for "..slamming.." them.. " ?

Thank you President Biden for being out there doing the Work & Doing such ad Excellent Job!

speak easy

(9,288 posts)
31. (sort of)
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:21 AM
Feb 2021
It’s only 2 [months] into this admin & our fraught, unjust immigration system will not transform in that time.

She then put forward some practical, easy to implement proposals

DHS shouldn’t exist, agencies should be reorganized, ICE gotta go, ban for-profit detention, create climate refugee status & more.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
48. Good question.. how about solutions
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 06:01 PM
Feb 2021

if they have one.. and not just "..slamming the Biden Admin.. "

It's said on this thread that she "walked it back.." but I haven't seen an apology.

brush

(53,801 posts)
16. She'd best reconsider that notion. A second term Rep challenging the Senate Majority Leader?
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 02:59 PM
Feb 2021

That's folly.

Response to Celerity (Reply #17)

Celerity

(43,461 posts)
22. I never said it would be foolish, I offered no opinion on the odds if she did run.
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 03:23 PM
Feb 2021

You said

I agree it would be foolish, but I think that is what is on her mind.


That was another poster, not me.

Cheers

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
25. I watch MSNBC but have not seen much coverage
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 04:20 PM
Feb 2021

of this story. I have seen it on Fox but I don't want to watch them. Google is my friend but I am not seeing much coverage or photos of the facility.

R B Garr

(16,964 posts)
28. I think it was just one of her tweets, but it's interesting
Wed Feb 24, 2021, 11:26 PM
Feb 2021

this is one tweet that hasn’t been posted multiple times.

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. She should look into just what that facility is, the accommodations, and what the alternative is.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:34 AM
Feb 2021

What should we do with those children until we find their parents or a suitable home for them?

betsuni

(25,582 posts)
36. What about a temporary opening because of COVID-19 is so terrible?
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:51 AM
Feb 2021

Why would anyone assume the Biden administration is anything like Trump's because of a temporary thing for safety?

comradebillyboy

(10,168 posts)
37. AOC doesn't appear to see any difference between them.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:00 AM
Feb 2021

I know that sounds harsh but I don't recall ever seeing AOC say anything positive about Joe Biden.

betsuni

(25,582 posts)
39. Some people immediately assume bad intentions of Democrats
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:12 AM
Feb 2021

and I guess it's no surprise when they've been told for years that both sides are the same and corrupt.

Ms. Toad

(34,084 posts)
38. Ordinarily, I'm not much of a fan.
Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:08 AM
Feb 2021

But I agree with her on this.

Our immigration policies have been atrocious for decades, including under the Obama-Biden administration. The initial photos everyone was outraged about with kids in cages and foil blankets were taken during the Obama adminstration. No matter how much we tried to rationalize it away, the initial reaction was to that visual . . . until we learned it was an Obama era image.

Yes - Trump was magnitudes of awful worse But less bad awful is still awful.

We must do better.

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