Trump's most damning comment at his "insurrection" speech at the Capitol?

[kentuck]

"...and after this - and I will be there with you - we are going to walk down to the Capitol..."

"AND I WILL BE THERE WITH YOU"

That one simple phrase gave the mob the permission to march on the Capitol. Arguably, moreso than any other inflammatory comment made on that day, it gave license to the mob that stormed our Capitol.

It showed the mob that he approved.

He had called them to Washington and he knew what types of people were in his audience. When he said that they were going to march on the Capitol, they knew their goal was to stop the electoral count that was taking place in the moment.

It was a pre-conceived and pre-meditated crime.

The man that divided the nation also divided the Parties. And now, with his speech this weekend, he will further his efforts by dividing the Republican Party to the point that it can no longer be put back together.

They see the train coming but they can't seem to get off the tracks.

[llashram]

1. he will be cheered

most repugs are hateful, greedy and without a moral compass.

[Eyeball_Kid]

9. It will be like the war hero returning home. He'll get a long standing ovation.

The crowd will be delirious. He would be wise to carry with him a ball of handkerchiefs and periodically wipe his brow with one after the other and toss them to the crowd, Elvis-style. I can't wait for the videos. They'll love Trump's almighty asshole.

Oh. I almost forgot the elephant in the room-- the elephant that is growing by the day: Trumpy-Boy's tax returns are now in the hands of the office of Manhattan's DA. NO ONE will mention it on Sunday. They're coming after Donnie, no matter how much he's worshipped.

[llashram]

17. I sure hope

he won't be able to weasel and squirm like the snake he is. And somehow go free.

[rgbecker]

2. I agree and was surprised the Impeachment managers didn't make more of it.

If you have 10,000 people walking toward the Capitol, most would have no idea if he were up front or not. Just about everyone charged has mentioned they were simply following the President's order.

[kentuck]

3. Sometimes we can only see things in hindsight...

...and from a different perspective.

[Eyeball_Kid]

10. And at other times,

you know when you're about to cross a boundary you have no business crossing. And you stop yourself.

[lookyhereyou]

4. I Hope

I HOPE he divides the r party and trashes elections

so his base base stays home and doesn't vote.

[RevBrotherThomas]

5. Let him build his "Patriot" party

It will fracture the GOP for a generation, if not completely destroy it.

[kentuck]

6. Building a Party on lies...

...is like building your castle on sand. It will not last.

[Eyeball_Kid]

11. Sometimes. Some religions are long lasting and are built on lies. n/t

[Tommymac]

7. Welcome to DU!

His base will not stay home...

We the People have to mobilize to neutralize.

[Evolve Dammit]

8. And the 70 plus million will be gaslit again this weekend, and angrier than ever. This won't end

well, unless he and his family are jailed and I doubt that will happen. History shows former Presidents to not be very accountable. You would think charges of sedition and treason would win the day, but I'll be happy with tax fraud, money laundering, RICO charges and an Al Capone- type conviction.

[BarbD]

12. The Capone comparison is a good one.

Capone and Trump are both mobsters. And both were not able to be convicted of their crimes -- until the IRS got involved.

[jmowreader]

14. Have you read The Untouchables by Eliot Ness?

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When the federal government decided getting Capone out of circulation was a good idea, they went with a two-pronged attack.

The IRS was always going to be the one to punish Capone. The government knew two things: that there was enough on Capone to lock him up for a very long time on tax evasion charges (if you’re going to break the laws on bootlegging, money laundering, murder, prostitution, kidnapping, book making...you are probably also going to break the law on paying taxes), and that it would have been impossible to convict him on a Volstead Act charge because the conviction rate was extremely low on those. As Ness put it, it is hard to enforce a law no one seems to want.

Ness’s squad was there to shut down the flow of illegal alcohol in Chicago and to jail the underlings. Ness knew about the plan from the beginning, and was one of the people to set it up.

If all you know about the Untouchables is from the movie, your education is sorely lacking. The part about how Ness set up his squad made for good cinema, but not good history. (The real Untouchables were long-time federal agents most of whom Ness knew personally before he got assigned to deal with Capone. And as for the money...yes, Capone’s men tried to bribe Ness’s men, but how they did it was to throw a large bundle of tightly wrapped cash into one of the squad’s cars. Unfortunately for the bribers, the squad’s car contained a man who’d played football, and he threw the money back so hard it knocked out one of the mobsters.)

Trump, on the other hand, isn’t going to be hard to convict. The public does not approve of money laundering, espionage, profiteering from public service or any of the other shit Trump has done in his life.

[BobTheSubgenius]

15. I like this post, and think it is right on the money with most of its points. (pun intended)

The last para, though...I'm on the fence. I think there is a majority of the population that would follow that model, but there is still a yuge swath for whom he can do no wrong.

And probably some who, while not on board with his entire agenda, or even a fair-sized minority of it, there are those who love a rogue. Those that admire the swashbuckling antics of, say Errol Flynn.

[BarbD]

16. Haven't read the Untouchables, but did read Capone by Deirdre Bair

It is an "authorized" biography published in 2016. She had access to all of his papers and interviewed his family.

Living in Milwaukee and being so close to Chicago, my dad was fascinated by Capone -- and of course he lived through prohibition.

Capone didn't think the law would ever get him. Trump feels he is also above the law.

I just want to see justice done.

[llashram]

18. I remember watching

Robert Stack in the original Untouchables. I wanted to be a G-man. Joined the Army instead. The later movie with Kevin Costner. I just hope trump goes down hard. Shamed and his grifter family defeated and shunned.

[Enoki33]

13. May be wrong on this, but seem to recall

tRump telling the insurrectionists to remember the boys in blue are our friends before sending them off. If correct, the implications are far reaching.

[struggle4progress]

19. The rally permit clearly indicated no march on the capitol

[kentuck]

20. You are correct.

But rules are made to be broken with this bunch of traitors.