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Archae

(46,354 posts)
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:50 PM Mar 2021

Was just listening to an old 70's song...

By the group "Ram Jam."

The song is called "Black Betty."

They got some flack for it back then, and a couple people now want to ban the song from airplay completely.
(I was listening to Pandora when the song came on)

I don't consider the song to be racist at all.

In fact as I'm typing this, the next song up is "Fortunate Son."

Is that song "elitist?"

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Was just listening to an old 70's song... (Original Post) Archae Mar 2021 OP
Tis truth since Civil War Pas-de-Calais Mar 2021 #1
What are the lyrics considered controversial? brush Mar 2021 #2
Black Betty James48 Mar 2021 #5
The title itself, for one. Archae Mar 2021 #11
In 1970 many Black people had rejected the terms "negro" and "colored" and were... brush Mar 2021 #19
Though I have seen a lot of different intepretations to the title Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2021 #18
Somehow I missed this song back in the 70s. Chipper Chat Mar 2021 #3
It's attributed to Lead Belly, although it might have roots further back. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #6
Video Chipper Chat Mar 2021 #9
I stumbled into this video recently captain queeg Mar 2021 #20
Yes! happybird Mar 2021 #21
. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #4
Grow up greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #7
Isn't it based on a Ledbelly song? jcgoldie Mar 2021 #8
It's an old song... Lars39 Mar 2021 #10
Fortunate Son was not an elitist song. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #12
We saw the Rolling Stones a couple of years ago in Stuttgart DFW Mar 2021 #13
Which version did they sing? WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #14
As far as I remember, they were these: DFW Mar 2021 #15
So the last line was not the original version. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #16
No idea DFW Mar 2021 #17

James48

(4,441 posts)
5. Black Betty
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:57 PM
Mar 2021

Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Black Betty had a child (Bam-ba-lam)
The damn thing gone wild (Bam-ba-lam)
She said, "I'm worryin' outta mind" (Bam-ba-lam)
The damn thing gone blind (Bam-ba-lam)
I said oh, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
She really gets me high (Bam-ba-lam)
You know that's no lie (Bam-ba-lam)
She's so rock steady (Bam-ba-lam)
And she's always ready (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Get it!
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
She's from Birmingham (Bam-ba-lam)
Way down in Alabam' (Bam-ba-lam)
Well, she's shakin' that thing (Bam-ba-lam)
Boy, she makes me sing (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty (Bam-ba-lam)
Whoa, Black Betty
Bam-ba-laaam, yeah, yeah


(. Drank beer to this back in the 70’s/80’s. Never considered the lyrics. The music is awesome. )


brush

(53,897 posts)
19. In 1970 many Black people had rejected the terms "negro" and "colored" and were...
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:15 PM
Mar 2021

calling themselves "Black"...proudly.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
18. Though I have seen a lot of different intepretations to the title
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:15 PM
Mar 2021

none of them are that it is about a woman who is black.

Chipper Chat

(9,694 posts)
3. Somehow I missed this song back in the 70s.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:55 PM
Mar 2021

Didn't even hear it until 2019. Great song. Lyrics sort of pre-rap.

captain queeg

(10,255 posts)
20. I stumbled into this video recently
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:24 PM
Mar 2021

I remember the song being very popular back then. But that video was really a blast from the past. Clothes, hair, car, etc really captured the times.

jcgoldie

(11,651 posts)
8. Isn't it based on a Ledbelly song?
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:57 PM
Mar 2021

I thought it was about guns or something not race... oh and fortunate son is the opposite of elitist I would argue.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
12. Fortunate Son was not an elitist song.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:02 PM
Mar 2021

In an interview with the Washington Post, Fogerty talks about the draft. He recalls how most people didn’t support the war, but the government forced them to fight anyway.

“Well, I wrote the song ‘Unfortunate Son’ basically– now you’ve got to remember, way back in the ’60s, I was drafted into the Army Reserves, which I was in for three years. Therefore, that’s a great big subject, but I’ll just tell you that most young people in the late ’60s were against the Vietnam War. I mean, it was pretty much what you might call a left-sided or liberal point of view. Kids did not support the Vietnam War. And also, there was a draft, which meant that many of the young men were going to be conscripted into the military. Perhaps against their will.”
“You Are an American, and That’s What You Do.”

Although Fogerty admits that he was one of the men that was against it, at some point, you have to grow up and do what you are called to do for the sake of your country.

“So, you know, people like me who didn’t support the war and thought it was kind of a stupid foreign policy, you might say– and I believe time has shown that it was. But anyway, and you were never really explained exactly why we are fighting this war. And I don’t think anyone still knows, really. So, that was my position. But I was drafted, and at some point, you stop kicking and screaming and do your duty. I’m trying to make light of it. But there were millions of guys just like me who then went ahead, and because we love our country, you know, regardless of how you feel personally, you are an American, and that’s what you do.”

DFW

(54,445 posts)
13. We saw the Rolling Stones a couple of years ago in Stuttgart
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:03 PM
Mar 2021

They sang a song called Brown Sugar. The lyrics seemed to condemn the slave trade in antebellum America, but maybe it's due for the banning list all the same?

DFW

(54,445 posts)
15. As far as I remember, they were these:
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:06 PM
Mar 2021

Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in the market down in New Orleans
Skydog slaver knows he's doin' all right
Hear him whip the women just around midnight
Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should
Drums beatin' cold, English blood runs hot
Lady of the house wonderin' when it's gonna stop
House boy knows that he's doin' all right
You should have heard him just around midnight

DFW

(54,445 posts)
17. No idea
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:09 PM
Mar 2021

I was never a huge fan of theirs, and never learned the lyrics to their songs to the point that I remembered them years later.

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