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Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 09:46 PM Mar 2021

What does 50% more infectious mean? -- in reference to new COVID strains.

Please keep in mind this works like compound interest, compounding every time COVID is transmitted from one person to another (sorta).

For example, current rates of infection are hovering around 1.0, meaning one infected person infects only 1 other person.
At the end of 13 "transmission" cycles (time intervals), we'd expect to have 13 infected people, assuming no one has recovered.

A 50% higher infection rate means the rate of infection goes up to 1.5, meaning one infected person infects 1.5 other people on average.
At the end of 13 "transmission" cycles (time intervals, we'd expect to have 387 infected people, assuming no one has recovered.

50% more infectious in no way means we'd only have 50% more cases at a point in time.
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When you see infection rates dropping, those are the old strains.
When you see a state had detected a hundred, or a few hundred cases of a new strain, those are only the detected cases, there are far more cases out "in the wild".

We are in a mad race to vaccinate, and get whatever protections we can from the vaccine to prevent serious illness and slow the spread.

Dropping mask restrictions and social distancing is just insane. We're so close to actually getting this under some kind of control.

This is why the CDC is urging states to maintain protections.
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What does 50% more infectious mean? -- in reference to new COVID strains. (Original Post) Pobeka Mar 2021 OP
I've been seeing out of state plates throughout this mess... FirstLight Mar 2021 #1
The there is spring break??? empedocles Mar 2021 #2
well...and Tahoe is a resort "destination" FirstLight Mar 2021 #3
Driving, flying. So much for idle pleasure trips, it is infuriating. Pobeka Mar 2021 #4
it is literally so infuriating...! FirstLight Mar 2021 #5
Do the Sheriff's cars have... SergeStorms Mar 2021 #11
It means it is 50 percent better at binding to cell receptors. roamer65 Mar 2021 #6
Do not for a minute believe that the old ties that bind them - Abbott and trump Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2021 #7
He thinks he'll make everyone forget... SergeStorms Mar 2021 #12
Have heard that theory.. but in my mind, it's a double fail that Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2021 #14
Precisely. SergeStorms Mar 2021 #19
I've come to that conclusion too. Abbott wants Biden to look bad, and is murdering people to do it. Pobeka Mar 2021 #15
Just means we have to have a better strategy. Elessar Zappa Mar 2021 #18
Agree. That's why we need a rapid response media/research team. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2021 #20
means that Abbott is an idiot Lithos Mar 2021 #8
And more mutations that might affect wnylib Mar 2021 #9
Such is how mutations go Lithos Mar 2021 #10
Well it might come back to wnylib Mar 2021 #13
Absolutely. Nothing good comes from higher #'s of infections. nt Pobeka Mar 2021 #17
See my post #15, I don't think he's and idiot, i think it's a strategy. Evil to the core. n/t Pobeka Mar 2021 #16

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
1. I've been seeing out of state plates throughout this mess...
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 09:56 PM
Mar 2021

that's what upsets me. I'll hear on the news that texas is blowing up and then see several cars in the next 2 weeks on vacation here...I'm like..."GO HOME!"

i wish we could somehow get travel restrictions under some fed control but the wingnuts would scream communism or some shit.

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
3. well...and Tahoe is a resort "destination"
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:32 PM
Mar 2021

as long as people come here, from abroad and in the US, we are under siege IMO

we only have 86 beds in our hometown hospital for 22K ppl

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
4. Driving, flying. So much for idle pleasure trips, it is infuriating.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:42 PM
Mar 2021

Especially when we're *so* close to getting it under some actual control if everyone could not make it about "me".

FirstLight

(13,362 posts)
5. it is literally so infuriating...!
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 11:02 PM
Mar 2021

I dont go out much, but when I do the traffic is bad and the ski resorts packed...chp ticketing people on the side of the highway cuz they are playing in the dirty snow

i get it that folks need to get out...but traveling 100 miles for recreation is bullshit. Im in CA and the county sheriffs are huge MAGAs and made a statement that travel directives were NOT going to be enforced because they "believe in the Consitiution" It's ridiculous

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
11. Do the Sheriff's cars have...
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:50 AM
Mar 2021

"To protect and serve" on the sides of their vehicles? Someone should point out their hypocrisy. I'd also ask where in the Constitution it states you don't have to wear a mask during a pandemic. I've read through the Constitution several times and I don't recall reading that part.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
6. It means it is 50 percent better at binding to cell receptors.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 11:06 PM
Mar 2021

Either means more spikes per virus or a better spike protein.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. Do not for a minute believe that the old ties that bind them - Abbott and trump
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 11:25 PM
Mar 2021

are gone. Trump wants biden to fail. I am appalled and furious that Abbott removed ALL covid restrictions. He is an utter lowlife murderer.

Great post!

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
12. He thinks he'll make everyone forget...
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:55 AM
Mar 2021

how badly republicans have messed up their power grid. What the hell, what's a few thousand more lives (mostly Democratic voting minorities) when there's capitalism on the line?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. Have heard that theory.. but in my mind, it's a double fail that
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 10:08 AM
Mar 2021

Proves he doesn't care about people at all.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
19. Precisely.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:37 PM
Mar 2021

The only time republicans care about life (or at least they say they do) is when it's inside a woman's womb. They want total control of the fetus until it's born, then they figure their job is done. Whatever happens after that, COVID, starvation, child abuse, or any one of a thousand different ways a child can die, is not their problem. But those nine months in the womb? They'll move heaven and earth to attempt to control that. Flaming hypocrites.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
15. I've come to that conclusion too. Abbott wants Biden to look bad, and is murdering people to do it.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:10 AM
Mar 2021

I just don't see any other motive, dropping the mask mandate to the population is strong messaging to ignore any and all socially responsible protections to prevent the spread of COVID.

He knows what that will do.

I believe he's planning to use the death numbers in political campaigns, claiming Biden didn't get the vaccine out fast enough, and you need GOP leadership. And it'll be consumed by a huge percentage of low information voters. In an era where a swing of 2-3% can decide the outcome of an election, this strategy works.



Elessar Zappa

(14,022 posts)
18. Just means we have to have a better strategy.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 11:15 AM
Mar 2021

I don’t believe they’re smarter than us, I think we can figure out how to make sure their tricks don’t work.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Agree. That's why we need a rapid response media/research team.
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 03:53 PM
Mar 2021

There are percentages on efficiency on how many of the vaccines you received were actually given to people. That falls squarely on Abbott and state gov.

Broken record, but wish Biden team would gather simple stats on vaccine ( % of pop vaccinated + % of supply administered)

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
8. means that Abbott is an idiot
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 11:43 PM
Mar 2021

50% more will turn in to 100% more given the wider guinea pig audience....

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
9. And more mutations that might affect
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:17 AM
Mar 2021

the effectiveness of vaccines. If they keep messing around like this, we could end up with a much more lethal strain.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
10. Such is how mutations go
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 12:39 AM
Mar 2021

And you are right. He's trying to wag the dog at the moment. Never has actually given an f* about how it affects anyone - just how it shapes his image.

L-

wnylib

(21,557 posts)
13. Well it might come back to
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 01:38 AM
Mar 2021

bite him in the butt. It is possible to catch covid even if you are vaccinated and/or have had it once. It is even more possible to get it again if you get exposed to a new strain that is more resistant to the vaccine.

So he could get a stronger, more lethal strain. It would be the ultimate karma.

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