Gillibrand is finally talking. Also, Moonstruck (separately)

[question everything]

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), who spearheaded the effort to oust former Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) from the Senate over sexual misconduct claims, on Tuesday called sexual harassment allegations against New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) “completely unacceptable.”

Gillibrand stopped short of calling on Cuomo to resign but said “every allegation of sexual harassment must be taken seriously and be reviewed.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/541300-gillibrand-cuomo-allegations-completely-unacceptable

(There were several reports noting her silence..)

As for the threads here about why older men chase young women - just go and see the movie Moonstruck, again, where the wonderful Olympia Dukakis suggests the reason: they fear death.

[demtenjeep]

1. Frankened

like i said

[demtenjeep]

2. Frankened

like i said

[dsc]

3. she wasn't being silent

she not once, not twice, but three separate times stated that there should be an independent investigation. that, incidentally is what she should have said in re Franken.

[question everything]

10. Not according to the report in the Nation

When it comes to taking on Cuomo, though, Gillibrand can’t seem to find the courage, claiming “It’s not my job,” and failing to even mention the governor by name except to remind everyone of his due-process rights. No mention of the women either, not even to praise their “bravery,” as politicians who don’t know quite what to say typically do.

and

And before anyone claims it’s unfair to so closely scrutinize a woman vis-à-vis a man’s actions, this ain’t that. It’s entirely appropriate to expect a US senator who has positioned herself aggressively on women’s rights to offer more than drivel about her home state’s exploding scandals and the man at the center of it all.

The problem is that Gillibrand’s feminism is mostly a form of self-promotion, which really doesn’t do much for anyone else. Because it would cost Gillibrand something to put skin in the game, just like it’s costing the much more vulnerable female elected officials who’ve been out there swinging solo. Just like it’s costing the women half her age who’ve upended their lives and safety to speak truth to power.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/cuomo-harassment-feminism-gillibrand/

[dsc]

14. from the very same article

On February 19, in response to the state’s withholding of data on nursing home deaths: “I know there’s ongoing investigations that I will not comment on, but I can do my part on the federal level to look at the broader issue through the Aging Committee which I am eager to do.… I’m focused on doing my job in the US Senate and that’s what I will do.”

On February 24, in response to Lindsey Boylan’s Medium post alleging sexual harassment and forcible kissing: “Well, obviously these allegations are serious and deeply concerning and anyone has a right to come forward to be heard and to have allegations be investigated. Governor Cuomo also has a right to be heard and he has come forward and has denied these allegations. But ultimately the decision will be up to the state Legislature.”

On February 28, in response to a second set of allegations levied by a 25-year-old ex-staffer who described how the governor groomed her for sex: “There must be an independent, transparent, and swift investigation into these serious and deeply concerning allegations.”

A few hours later, after nearly everyone in state government had already weighed in: “These allegations are serious and deeply concerning. As requested by Attorney General James, the matter should be referred to her office so that she can conduct a transparent, independent and thorough investigation with subpoena power.”

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Note the second, third and fourth paragraphs I quoted. All three say there should be an investigation, which is precisely what I said she said. The Nation doesn't like what she said, that is their right. What isn't their right, is to lie to our faces in their headline and the first part of their article and claim she was silent when she wasn't. The Nation isn't what it used to be, and that is profoundly sad.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Older men chase younger women for Darwinian reasons.

Survival of the species for men to impregnate as many fertile women as possible.

[Ocelot II]

6. No, they do it because they're assholes who think their power and status

entitles them to help themselves to women's bodies.

[Irish_Dem]

9. We all have Darwinian DNA urges, many of them socially unacceptable or even criminal.

We are more than our DNA and need to do the right thing.

DNA is not an excuse for breaking the law.

[Mr.Bill]

16. I never had children of my own because

I relied on my looks and personality for birth control.

[choie]

19. or acting like pigs.

n/t

[Blue_true]

8. That isn't the case today.

There are plenty of people in the world. So, if some go without making babies, that is not a bad outcome. But it all comes down to a personal choice.

[choie]

20. Amen

enough with the babies, we have enough people in the world.

[Skittles]

5. who?

[dweller]

17. +1000

exactly ...

✌🏻

[elleng]

7. Thanks for the reminder,

LOVE that movie!

[Blue_true]

11. I like the reason given by Pacino in the movie "The Scent of a Woman".

Our brains (I am a man) seems hard wired for some urges, what else explains things like viagra. But, because a person has urges doesn’t mean that he should satisfy them with the unwilling.

[question everything]

12. It is!

[Kaleva]

13. I think most here agree with the Senator

That the allegations need to be taken seriously and investigated.

[Danmel]

15. I also thought of Moonstruck

The scene where the young woman student throws water in the face of her much older predatory professor and Olympia Dukakis sits down to eat with him and tells him "what you don't know about women is a lot."

[choie]

18. Where the hell has she been?

haven't heard a peep from her in what seems like a year.

[Thekaspervote]

21. She's a dem so she gets a pass..but just barely! She needs to butt out