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artemisia1

(756 posts)
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 04:09 PM Mar 2021

President Biden is doing everything he can with the resources available to him, it is up to US now

to give him the rest of the tools needed to do the job. That is, of course, the 2022 U.S. Midterm elections.

34 Senate seats!

435 Representative seats!

If we do this, I believe that President Biden's first term will not only be spectacularly successful, but will lead to a landslide victory 2nd term. And this is in a country where nearly half the voters think that someone like FORMER President Trump is the Greatest of All Time. Imagine the possibilities if WE come through for President Biden in 2022!

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President Biden is doing everything he can with the resources available to him, it is up to US now (Original Post) artemisia1 Mar 2021 OP
If you bring a knife to a gunfight you lose- 2022 is a wet noodle vs atomic bomb if HR1 doesn't pass Fiendish Thingy Mar 2021 #1
The two are not mutually exclusive. /nt artemisia1 Mar 2021 #3
Has Biden/WH even contacted Manchin or Sinema? leftstreet Mar 2021 #2
Has David Shuster ever considered the possibility that President Biden is avoiding pressuring artemisia1 Mar 2021 #4

Fiendish Thingy

(15,650 posts)
1. If you bring a knife to a gunfight you lose- 2022 is a wet noodle vs atomic bomb if HR1 doesn't pass
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 04:43 PM
Mar 2021

I’ve seen lots of post exclaiming “Gee, guys, let’s win BIG! BIG! BIG! In 2022! Then we can pass what ever we want!”

That hopeful, yet ultimately naive, thinking ignores the following critical facts:

1) Manchin and Sinema oppose the elimination of the filibuster
2) with the filibuster in place, HR1/SB1, the For The People voting rights act won’t pass (nor will any other non-reconciliation bill, which we get 1 per year)
3) if HR1/SB1 doesn’t pass, then gerrymandering alone will flip 6 house seats before a single vote is cast- Dems have a margin of 5. The voting rights bill requires all states to use a bipartisan commission to draw district lines, like CA and many other blue states already do.
4) if HR1/SB1 doesn’t pass, current and pending voter suppression laws will stand, making it harder for Dems, especially POC and young people to vote, and causing at least one senator, Warnock to lose his seat.

The stakes are incredibly high- if the filibuster survives, GOP takes the house, and likely the senate- if that happens, prepare for these consequences:
1) Biden and Harris will be impeached- who knows what for, but you can bank on it.
2) in 2024, regardless of the actual outcome of the election, the GOP will install a Republican as president by challenging and rejecting enough electoral votes to make it so- you can bank on that as well.

The Republicans intend to rig the system for minority rule for the next decade or longer, starting in 2022. We can’t wish that away or pretend it isn’t true. Without passing HR1, there is nothing that will stop them.

So, I find it much more realistic, instead of dreaming about “winning BIG!” In 2022, to focus on killing the filibuster now and passing HR1, and Persuading or Punishing Manchin and Sinema based on their votes.

artemisia1

(756 posts)
4. Has David Shuster ever considered the possibility that President Biden is avoiding pressuring
Wed Mar 3, 2021, 05:10 PM
Mar 2021

these members because he believes doing so will backfire? Were he to call Senator Manchin in for a "talk", then the West Virginia (massive Red State) can tell his constituency he "defied" the President and will remain "conservative" (for a Democrat) and should be re-elected.

I wish Shuster, et. al., would leave the knives in the kitchen drawer...

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