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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe George Floyd Act wouldn't have saved George Floyd's life. That says it all
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/04/the-george-floyd-act-wouldnt-have-saved-george-floyds-life-thats-says-it-allOn Wednesday night, the House of Representatives voted to pass the George Floyd Act, named after the Black man killed by Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin last summer. Among many reforms, the act seeks to ban racial profiling, overhaul qualified immunity for police, and ban the use of chokeholds. While these seem like good measures, they are woefully insufficient to stop police violence. These reforms could not have even saved George Floyds life.
To be clear, Floyd did not die from a chokehold. A police officer put his knee to Floyds neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds. A medical examiners autopsy reported cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression. Floyd also had blunt force trauma to his head, face and shoulders. Banning chokeholds is important, as we should reduce the number of tactics that the police can employ to be dangerous. However, the problem with policing is precisely that they can kill people using a diverse number of tactics. Shooting, kneeling, punching, suffocating, Tasing. Congress banned one practice, and not even the one responsible for the homicide.
Floyd was also probably not racially profiled. He did not have to be if he was breaking the law. Reportedly, Floyd tried to use a counterfeit $20 bill at a corner store. The clerk called the police because using counterfeit money is illegal. The definition of racial profiling is when police uses someones race to suspect that they have committed a crime. Here, Floyds act may have constituted a crime and the police showed up to fix it. Whats more criminal than counterfeit cash is the society where people live off of these transactions in corner stores in the first place. The police cannot solve this problem. They can show up and attempt to stop the crime, but they cant stop the underlying conditions that give rise to it: class exploitation and poverty. Floyd appeared to need cash, not the police.
Congress has had several opportunities to give people what they actually need under the pandemic: money. George Floyd had tested positive for Covid-19 in April. By the time of his death, lawmakers had only distributed $1,200 to the public, and not everyone received this stimulus check. I wonder if Floyd would have used a counterfeit $20 if Congress would have issued $2,000 a month to the public as several activists and progressive legislators have been demanding. George Floyds blood is on their hands.
To be clear, Floyd did not die from a chokehold. A police officer put his knee to Floyds neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds. A medical examiners autopsy reported cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression. Floyd also had blunt force trauma to his head, face and shoulders. Banning chokeholds is important, as we should reduce the number of tactics that the police can employ to be dangerous. However, the problem with policing is precisely that they can kill people using a diverse number of tactics. Shooting, kneeling, punching, suffocating, Tasing. Congress banned one practice, and not even the one responsible for the homicide.
Floyd was also probably not racially profiled. He did not have to be if he was breaking the law. Reportedly, Floyd tried to use a counterfeit $20 bill at a corner store. The clerk called the police because using counterfeit money is illegal. The definition of racial profiling is when police uses someones race to suspect that they have committed a crime. Here, Floyds act may have constituted a crime and the police showed up to fix it. Whats more criminal than counterfeit cash is the society where people live off of these transactions in corner stores in the first place. The police cannot solve this problem. They can show up and attempt to stop the crime, but they cant stop the underlying conditions that give rise to it: class exploitation and poverty. Floyd appeared to need cash, not the police.
Congress has had several opportunities to give people what they actually need under the pandemic: money. George Floyd had tested positive for Covid-19 in April. By the time of his death, lawmakers had only distributed $1,200 to the public, and not everyone received this stimulus check. I wonder if Floyd would have used a counterfeit $20 if Congress would have issued $2,000 a month to the public as several activists and progressive legislators have been demanding. George Floyds blood is on their hands.
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The George Floyd Act wouldn't have saved George Floyd's life. That says it all (Original Post)
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2021
OP
We actually don't know if lawsuits against cops and cities make a difference, for a variety of
WhiskeyGrinder
Mar 2021
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Elessar Zappa
(14,063 posts)1. You gotta start somewhere.
Incremental change is better than no change. Of course even this bill wont get passed as the GOP will surely filibuster it.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,438 posts)2. In which case, it's not even incremental change.
dsc
(52,166 posts)3. removing qualified immunity might well have
In virtually every other walk of life we see that getting large judgments for even legal behavior changes said behavior. I have to say I think a few 7 figure judgements against both cities and cops and the behavior that was witnessed in re George Floyd would stop dead it its tracks.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,438 posts)4. We actually don't know if lawsuits against cops and cities make a difference, for a variety of
reasons.
We do know, for example, that:
But five years later, Cleveland has paid more money in police misconduct settlements than in the five years before Rice was killed. In 2017, according to public records obtained by FiveThirtyEight and The Marshall Project, the city paid $7.9 million (including $3 million for half of the payment to the Rice family). In 2019, it paid $6 million. Thats more than the city spent on police misconduct in the entire five-year period between 2010 and 2014.
But as with most efforts to dig into cop misconduct, the data is restricted, incomplete, or plain wrong. And in the end, the taxpayers are the ones who pay.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,438 posts)5. Afternoon kick.