Expert explains how Dems just brilliantly forced Trump to respond under oath for the Capitol riot

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On MSNBC Saturday, former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance outlined the legal problems that the new civil suits against former President Donald Trump will create for him.

"These civil cases are a very interesting aspect of the search for accountability," said Vance. "We've seen the flawed impeachment procedure, which failed to hold him accountable despite evidence. We're looking at the criminal process and criminal investigations ongoing, too early to conclude whether that would ultimately reach former President Trump and his inner circle. These civil cases are a direct and potentially more quick route for the American people to gain the truth."

"Representative [Eric] Swalwell's complaint is particularly interesting because it raises claims under the Ku Klux Klan Act, which talks about interference with Congress' performance of official duties, and files suit in his individual capacity, arguing interference and interference with his well-being and the well-being of others," said Vance. "Only one of the claims in this complaint have to survive a motion to dismiss, an early preliminary motion that the defendants will file in order to begin the discovery process, and that's part of the legal proceedings in the civil case where a litigant like Representative Swalwell has the ability to take depositions to ask for documents where there's actually an obligation that the defendants respond under oath."

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[Phoenix61]

1. They got Capone for tax evasion.

I have no problem getting Twilter on civil suit.

[calimary]

28. Whatever works.

Whatever nails that bastard!

ALL’s fair.

[Marie Marie]

2. Ruh-roh - Trump under oath to tell the truth...

[Nevilledog]

9. He's practicing...."I don't remember."

[Xipe Totec]

14. The problem is, he truly can't remember... to say he can't remember

And when Trump can't remember, he makes shit up.

[yonder]

24. Ruh-roh is right. Trump under oath for anything - should be a hoot.

[malaise]

3. Off to the greatest page for you

Important

[TlalocW]

4. So during the discovery period where Trump's lawyers would file to dismiss

Trump could still be asked questions under oath?

TlalocW

[euphorb]

13. Discovery comes after a motion to dismiss is decided.

If the judge dismisses the case, there will be no discovery (though likely refiling would be allowed). If the case is not dismissed, then it goes into the discovery phase.

[intrepidity]

19. And therein lies the rub

He'll somehow manage to get them dismissed

[AZ8theist]

33. Not likely....watch this:

[BadgerMom]

5. K & R

[Joinfortmill]

6. Oh, yes! Hehehe.

[SergeStorms]

7. I doubt Trump's testimony...

would be public, but it'll still be great to have someone of Swalwell's caliber grill that greasy bastard under oath.

[ancianita]

18. Though Swalwell's a lawyer, it's probably Philip Andonian, his lawyer, who'd conduct questioning

under oath, since Swalwell's the plaintiff.

[SergeStorms]

26. You are correct.

I was so elated about Swalwell's triumph, that fact just shot right over (or through) my head.

[ancianita]

27. I hear ya.

Just finished No Sunscreen for the Dead and Naked Came the Florida Man. You were great!

[SergeStorms]

29. I try.

I'm not some random serial killer. Everyone I rub out has it coming to them, and the vast majority are republicans. Go figure. Now where the heck is Coleman......

[dutch777]

8. Glad for multiple vectors to accountability but Trump et.al. are masters of delay in civil cases

They all tie him up, eat up he and his team's time, attention and $$$ but I would be surprised if there is any other meaningful result by the end of Biden's first term/2024 election. Justice is not really swift despite rumors to the contrary.

[groundloop]

25. And justice is especially not swift for the rich and well connected.

[keithsw]

35. My mother always said

" It's the Legal system if you're rich, the justice system if you're poor "

[bedazzled]

37. your mom was brilliant

[keithsw]

39. Thank you for saying that

And I realized as I got older, she really was

[SoonerPride]

10. I'm not holding my breath.

All these claims that “THIS TIME we’ve got him!” always seem to just go nowhere.

I would love nothing more than to see him sued into poverty and thrown in prison fro his multitudinous crimes but I remain skeptical that anything like accountability will ever happen to this creep.

[oldsoftie]

38. I've said the same thing too. I agree.

[mn9driver]

11. Trump has been under oath a couple times in the past.

The particular one I think I recall was related to the Trump University scam. In that deposition, his answer to almost every question was “I don’t recall”.

While it will be a good thing to get him under oath, I think we will hear that answer repeated over and over and over again.

[Liberty Belle]

12. True but he LOST the Trump University case.

So that's actually a promising precedent. Judges don't like liars.

[intrepidity]

22. I wonder how that will work if the depo involves showing videos of him saying stuff

"Did you say ___?"

"I don't recall."

"Roll tape, please." ... "Now, 'sir', do you recall?"

If he continues to say "No", then he demonstrably has cognitive issues, and this depo should be used to prevent him from running in 2024; or at least to publicize his severe mental deficiencies (like that would matter to his base--but it may to the less radical Rs in gen pop).

[scarytomcat]

15. They didn't see he was carrying. a batton? Lie Lie Lie

Leave him in jail

[Jon King]

16. Attack the Trumps from all sides...

Civil cases, legal actions, boycott of businesses, cut off the financing, go after anyone who does business with them....just keep attacking over and over again. Every Trump is an enemy of the free world.

[gab13by13]

17. I am waiting for the E. Jeanne Carroll case,

when Trump has to provide his DNA.

[intrepidity]

20. Yes! This one. nt

[nuxvomica]

21. The law he's employing has a strikingly appropriate name

Not much of a stretch.

[BarbD]

23. Extremely interesting.

This has possibilities. As Rachel says, "Watch this space".

[live love laugh]

30. YASSSSSSSS!!!!!!

[3Hotdogs]

31. Remember, even obfuscation and court delaying tactics cost him lawyers' fees.

--- and few lawyers will work for him without fronting the $$$.

[C Moon]

32. This could be where he skips town.

[Blue Owl]

34. Let's watch that fat fuck incriminate itself

[LymphocyteLover]

36. I cannot wait!

*rubs hands gleefully*

[BobTheSubgenius]

40. If I had more personal context into which I could put this information, I'm sure it would be

a lot more meaningful to me. It's not that I don't recognize it as good news, but I just don't have the knowledge to assess how good.