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Johnny2X2X

(19,107 posts)
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 11:48 AM Mar 2021

Who is to blame for no $15 Minimum Wage?

So the Dems in the House passed it after the President proposed it. They aren’t to blame.

In the 50-50 Senate, 96% of Democrats would vote for it. 0% of Republicans will. So if the Dems could go from 96% to 100% it might have a shot. Or if maybe the Republicans can go from 0% to 4%!!!!

The Republicans are why we don’t have a $15 minimum wage right now, period! Stop blaming the Democratic Party for only being 96% there, blame the GOP for being 0% there!

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Who is to blame for no $15 Minimum Wage? (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 OP
If worse comes to worse, gab13by13 Mar 2021 #1
We did. 67%...that means a whole lot of repugs voted for it. Lochloosa Mar 2021 #11
Why is anyone blaming the Democrats at all? Budi Mar 2021 #2
The truth comradebillyboy Mar 2021 #3
+1,000,000. Hortensis Mar 2021 #7
Republicans are to blame period. Demsrule86 Mar 2021 #4
Yes republicans are to blame choie Mar 2021 #5
96% of Dems in the Senate support it, 0% of Reps Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #6
This. nt crickets Mar 2021 #19
And 6 (SIX!) others. Those hoping to defeat uncumbent Democrats Hortensis Mar 2021 #8
No! Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #9
Oh, yes, that part of it. Under certain conditions they would support $15. Hortensis Mar 2021 #12
People can't live on $11 or $12/hr choie Mar 2021 #16
If any two Republicans supported it we would get it Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #18
+1 K&R!! One thing at a time. We got the ARA passed. the min wage passage will come later. We have a onetexan Mar 2021 #10
8 voted against, so 84%. Qutzupalotl Mar 2021 #13
Not entirely accurate. Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #14
If Sinema is one of the other two you're listing, she also didn't want it in the stimulus AZSkiffyGeek Mar 2021 #15
Sinema just voted for a MW increase in AZ Johnny2X2X Mar 2021 #17

gab13by13

(21,385 posts)
1. If worse comes to worse,
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 11:51 AM
Mar 2021

run campaigns in the states to pass $15 minimum wage, get it on the ballot. I mean, Florida passed it

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
2. Why is anyone blaming the Democrats at all?
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 11:59 AM
Mar 2021


The only ones to blame are the Republicans.
As always.

choie

(4,111 posts)
5. Yes republicans are to blame
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 12:06 PM
Mar 2021

but so are Manchin and Sinema. Come on now, we have to be upfront about that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. And 6 (SIX!) others. Those hoping to defeat uncumbent Democrats
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 12:14 PM
Mar 2021

in red states and calling that progressive are like trumpists calling themselves defenders of democracy. Both are dreadfully sincere.

Johnny2X2X

(19,107 posts)
9. No!
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 12:17 PM
Mar 2021

They support a $15 minimum wage. They just weren’t willing to go against the parliamentarian and break the rules to get it as part of this package.

We need to be accurate.

And Sinema and Manchin are willing to go to $11 or $12 on the minimum wage, most Republicans don’t want it raised at all.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Oh, yes, that part of it. Under certain conditions they would support $15.
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 12:47 PM
Mar 2021

Noting that AZ increased its MW from $11 to $12 in 2020, and some AZ cities have increased theirs higher than that. They're not exactly backwards in this respect, and Sinema was in the AZ house for the previous MW increase.

choie

(4,111 posts)
16. People can't live on $11 or $12/hr
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 01:49 PM
Mar 2021

in cities with a high cost of living. Making excuses for Manchin and Sinema doesn't get us anywhere. We have to be honest. If they would have agreed to $15/hr, the bill would have passed. They didn't and so the increase was shelved.

Johnny2X2X

(19,107 posts)
18. If any two Republicans supported it we would get it
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 02:00 PM
Mar 2021

Sinema and Manchin are allies, they support raising the MW, just not all the way to $15.

The blame lies with the GOP, we need to start saying that.

onetexan

(13,056 posts)
10. +1 K&R!! One thing at a time. We got the ARA passed. the min wage passage will come later. We have a
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 12:25 PM
Mar 2021

great POTUS. He & Dems will get it done. I don't doubt it.

We also need to be cognizant of the fact having intraparty dissent is a price we have to pay as a Big Tent party. There will always be the Kyrsten Sinemas and Joe Manchins of the party. Compromise and concessions from within to get things done is & will be the only way we get things done given we can't count on the GOP to do the right thing, as their M.O. is first & foremost to be obstructionists. They are not pro-middle class and the poor, only pro-wealthy.

Johnny2X2X

(19,107 posts)
14. Not entirely accurate.
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 01:42 PM
Mar 2021

6 of those 8 support a $15 minimum wage, but weren’t willing to break the rules to get it.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,061 posts)
15. If Sinema is one of the other two you're listing, she also didn't want it in the stimulus
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 01:48 PM
Mar 2021

That's been her position since the beginning. Support raising minimum wage, but not through the stimulus bill. Which makes me wonder what Bernie's theatrics were about, since the bill was never going to pass (much less make it into the final bill because of reconciliation rules), and he just put a bunch of Democrats on blast as a result.

Johnny2X2X

(19,107 posts)
17. Sinema just voted for a MW increase in AZ
Sun Mar 7, 2021, 01:58 PM
Mar 2021

She went to $12 in AZ when she was in the House there. So she wasn’t willing to go to $15.

I see so man people blaming Dems, but it’s important to be accurate. Dems support $15, and the couple who don’t support $11 or $12.

Almost no Reps support any raise to the MW.

Republicans deserve 98% of the blame.

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