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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs the European Union lifting its ban on U.S. travelers to its countries?
My daughter and I had a great trip to Barcelona all planned before the pandemic and the EU ban.
I'd really like to see it.
Ace Rothstein
(3,183 posts)Europe also isn't doing too hot overall with vaccinations either. We were planning to go to France last year and again this year. Maybe next year. I have seen some rumors of individual countries opening up but again, just rumors.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,183 posts)Even if they do open to us sometime soon, the usual experience you'd have traveling to Europe is probably going to be a little while as well. I don't want to travel all that way for a diminished experience.
marble falls
(57,172 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)And I was in Pamplona (not for the bull running, thank god) which turned out to be a lovely city with its lovely, poised people and a beautiful city square.
pdxflyboy
(678 posts)starting in mid August. We sure hope that things open up by then.
lindysalsagal
(20,726 posts)Are you going to take the northwest train?
pdxflyboy
(678 posts)Leave in 8 days via Mallaig, through to Edinburgh. Our favorite crofters cottage is near the Skaebost Bridge.
lindysalsagal
(20,726 posts)Do you eat Haggis???
pdxflyboy
(678 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,970 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,970 posts)awaiting relief from the possibility of eviction or foreclosure. The problems of those who cannot fulfill their European vacation plans likely dont even register on their list of concerns. You speak of tone, but informing everyone of your frustration with the pace of pandemic restrictions that interfere with a vacation strike me as tone-deaf. Please proceed.
Celerity
(43,491 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,970 posts)First-world problems.
Celerity
(43,491 posts)to so many things that it would cut off discussion on thousands of issues.
Cirque du So-What
(25,970 posts)I wish I had such self-restraint. I feel like throwing all my electronics against the fucking wall sometimes.
Celerity
(43,491 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,970 posts)Sometimes I feel like Im in flames while passersby walk past me and see nothing. It doesnt take much to set me off nowadays, and that makes me feel like shit.
pdxflyboy
(678 posts)Did not mean to be offensive or insensitive. My apologies to you, Cirque du So-What.
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)how many people in this world would give anything just to have one device, let alone multiples? How very first world of you to even think of such a thing. Shame on you.
See how easy it is when you go down the path of judging?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Do you not have better things in your life to do? If you do not, I suggest there are better things in life than going on DU where you are anonymous and judging people whose plans to visit a beautiful city are a good thing in their lives.
Cirque du So-What
(25,970 posts)Do you not have other things to do than complain about how a global pandemic is affecting your plans. Again, sorry for any inconvenience. May I suggest mutually ignoring each other? I tire of hearing about numerous first-world problems anyway.
Celerity
(43,491 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 14, 2021, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)died too soon. His art is so popular, it is sad he wasted so much of his life...
Celerity
(43,491 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Damn, I wish to hell I'd used that word! It is perfect.
Celerity
(43,491 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)"churchery" (I'm so going to use that!) and as a term meaning "beguilement." The book is "Heretics and Heroes: how Renaissance artists and reformation priests created our world."
I've also read "Sailing the Wine Dark Sea: why the Greeks matter." I highly recommend that book. I was afraid of Greek history until I read that book. It is fabulous. I recommend it to everyone!
and
the Wine Dark Sea
love that phrase
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Celerity
(43,491 posts)my father is a sailing fanatic, he was a Broadblue catamaran (A rated on the CE classification) that he keeps docked sometimes in Athens, and we have taken in out a few times by ourselves after we got certified. I am addicted to the ocean, its in my blood, my mum's side of the family had a small shipping firm for decades in Barbados (until family feuding destroyed it back in the early noughties) and many on my father's side where in the fishery business in Sweden.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Covid shutdown. We have the money to do the trip and everything. It is sad.
Celerity
(43,491 posts)the Saronics, has a really cool art scene and is more accessible.
DFW
(54,436 posts)I'm afraid you're out of luck for the immediate future.
Even for me as an EU resident, to run down there involves pain-in-the-ass paperwork and constant testing I needed a 72 hours-old-or-less PCR test on a computer-legible QR form even to board the plane down there, and another 48-hours-old-or-less negative test to be allowed to fly back to Germany. I also had to bring (but wasn't asked for) an invitation from the office I was visiting to show why my presence was needed physically. Once there, I was allowed to move around fairly freely, but I was still advised against visiting my favorite shopping spots, especially the Mercat Boqueria.
As fate would have it, while I was there, I did run into an old American acquaintance. He is from New York, but married to a Swiss citizen, which was his free ticket to a Schengen area residence permit. They had visited Barcelona a few years back, and were so blown away that they decided to move there. They both speak rudimentary Castilian, and are taking courses in Catalan. They both work for an American company that doesn't really care where in Europe they are based, although giving up Switzerland as a place to reside is a major move. There are plenty of people in Spain that would give their left feet for fluency in the Zürich dialect, and a steady job there (or anywhere in Switzerland) with a residence permit.
For now, anyway, the usually crowded city of Barcelona was relatively empty. Instead of the usual 45 minutes necessary to get to the airport by taxi, it was only 25 minutes, and you don't have to wait for anything--IF it's open. The usual throng of Pakistani street hustlers have disappeared, but by the same token, comparatively few places among the thousands of wonderful cafés and tapes places are open.
One of the main hindrances of my usual frequent trips down there is that the flight schedule has been so curtailed that the days when I could fly down there in the morning and back in the evening are temporarily gone. The 6 AM flight down there from here is gone, and the 10:30 AM flight only operates one day a week now. The evening flight back at 7:30 PM has disappeared altogether, and I have to spend the night and fly back the next day at 12:45 noon.
I figure a few more months at least before you can book your trip with a reasonable expectation of being able to actually leave on the flights you have booked.
Still, these things sometimes change on a dime, so keep up with advisories from the Spanish Health Ministry and the State Department. A simple permission to fly there won't be much fun if they make you quarantine for two weeks before you are allowed to even leave your hotel room. You'll get here/there eventually, don't give up! And once you do, you'll see that it was worth the wait. Barcelona is absolutely one of my favorite cities in all the world. Knowing I can leave my house any time, and be sitting at one of my favorite cafés/tapes places at the Plaça de la Catedral or the Sagrada Familia four hours later is one of the main reasons I didn't pressure MY wife to come live there.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Barcelona used to be the hands down favorite place for savvy Americans to visit. It was one reason I hesitated to go there at one point, when I was traveling for art purposes. I wanted to see the Gaudi architecture but I was put off by all the Americans considering it "trendy." But that has changed. I'll wait til things are normalized again. Mercifully, I am fully vaccinated against Covid. Of course, that could become iffy.
From your vantage point, is any European country easier for Americans to visit now?
DFW
(54,436 posts)There might be some small countries that I'm not aware of, maybe in the Baltic region that are hungry for investment? Estonia, Latvia? Kosovo, maybe? No idea.
Keep your vaccination documentation handy. You will definitely be among the first who will be allowed to come here when things loosen up. If I didn't have my German/EU residence permit, I don't know what I'd do. I'm not ready for retirement, but I'm not sure I could go anywhere, either.
As it is, my American friend did receive his Spanish residence permit, but along with it, the restriction that residents of Spain are not allowed to travel outside of Spain without documented reasons of work/family/medical emergencies. My travel agency here told me of several Portuguese families here in the Düsseldorf area whose family members have been stranded in Portugal, unable to visit Germany for the same reasons. Germany does demand tons of paperwork (what WOULD the EU do without its love of bureaucracy?), but at least it lets me take short working trips. Some neighboring countries like Holland, Belgium, Switzerland and France reciprocate.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)BelleCarolinaPeridot
(9,609 posts)We're not in the clear yet. This pandemic is far from over.
Italy is going back on lock down. Germany is going through the "third wave".
Still a way to go...
BannonsLiver
(16,439 posts)Im sure there are doomists in the thread who will say youll never be able to go to Europe again, but just ignore them.
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)I was recently invited to a 70th birthday celebration in Lucca, Italy in early September. Friends from high school cooked up the idea at our 50th reunion two years ago when several of them discovered they each had a fondness for the little walled town in Tuscany.
Sigh. I can't see it happening. With Italy just now going into lockdown again...
JI7
(89,262 posts)Even if you were able to get there somehow the situation might be that you can't really do too much.