CNN poll on who will NOT take the vaccine

[JohnSJ]

Democrats. 7%
Republicans. 46%
Independents. 32%

Looking at the reverse of those who will get the vaccine:

Democrats. 93%
republicans. 54%
Independents. 68%

[underpants]

1. Lots of CVS and Walgreens spots in SW Virginia

Basically west of Roanoke. DEEP deep Red.

[ananda]

12. I'm getting mine at a Walgreens.

South of the Austin airport.

It's a drive, but who cares.

[Tribetime]

21. I'm doing an hour drive Wednesday but who cares 😁

[Buckeye_Democrat]

24. I have an appointment at a local pharmacy this week!

I couldn't find ANY openings around here just a few days ago, until my county's public health agency suddenly offered 6000 openings this week. So I snatched a spot!

Then the next day, a very close pharmacy suddenly had openings this week too! (I couldn't have found a closer place that's authorized to give the vaccines even if all of them around here had openings.) So I cancelled the other appointment and scheduled with them instead.

The county's public health agency was taking about 150 people for every half hour (in a large convention center), whereas the pharmacy was taking only one person per 15 minute time slots. (They're all filled now.) So there should be about 75 times less congestion too.

So eager to get it done! It's the 1st dose for me.

[underpants]

27. I went to a big vax event at aNASCAR track this weekend

75 per 10 minute slot. Yes they can really crank it out. The check in takes most of the time.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

28. Thanks for your reply!

That's kind of how I imagined it, with most of the time spent trying to sort out who was there. And their workers dealing with the people who didn't already complete their basic health paperwork online, or other similar delays.

Plus that convention center can get a lot of traffic around it sometimes.

I was so relieved to get that appointment initially, but I also dreaded some of the anticipated annoyances.

Edit:
By the way, my older brother used to live in Roanoke in the mid-80's while working as an electrical engineer. He hated the strong right-wing attitudes there, but mostly couldn't put up with the ragweed. He thought that his hay fever was bad around here, but it was even worse there!

So he then moved to Colorado Springs CO within a year, and it was even more right-wing! (No bad allergies there, though.)

He must've lived in Roanoke around 1984, because he quickly became a fan of Virginia Tech's basketball team and talked a lot about their amazing guards -- which included Dell Curry, who he thought was one of the best deep shooters he'd ever seen. (The father of Stephen Curry.)

He said that the local stations showed more of the North Carolina basketball games, though, which seemed insane to him.

[TwilightZone]

2. I think a lot of the Republicans and right-leaners are lying.

I think they'll get it quietly, like Trump did, and just not tell anyone.

[Happyhippychick]

3. I agree with this 100%

[Treefrog]

7. I agree completely.

[Freddie]

11. Agreed

My son and wife live in Florida and the appointments fill up instantly.

[Celerity]

14. absolutely, they lie like they breathe, they are the worst people in any advanced Western democracy

[IronLionZion]

25. They lie on polls, just like for the election

where the polls were completely wrong on trump/GOP support.

[RainCaster]

4. When those Republicans get sick...

Will they refuse socialized medicine?

[lagomorph777]

5. Good news. Hopefully the GQP will shrink by COVID suicide.

[Celerity]

17. the problem, if enough of the vermin refuse to vax up, then hitting herd immunity may be tough, and

if it the pandemic still rolls on, the US is more than likely going to spread the new variants, and, worst of all, may very well produce their own. Knowing the US, if a US variant (or variants) is produced, it just may be the nastiest yet, and render the vaccinated people unsafe again.

IF any of the worst of the scenarios takes place (especially a US produced super variant), we might to have to go the hard route, and start to make the vaccines mandatory, enforced by the full weight of the law. Could get really ugly, really fast. The QMAGAts will violently resist, 99% likely with some regionally dispersed, lower level kinetic force in a multiplicity of areas nationwide.

Well well over half a billion firearms out on the fruited plain, in the land of the free, home of the brave..

What could possibly go wrong?

[ProfessorGAC]

22. Might Be OK

93% of 30%D's is 27.9%.
68% of 45%I's is 30.6%
So, we're at 58.5%.
Now add in the R's that will get it, and include those who lie to pollsters but will get one anyway, we should be over 70% of adults.

[Celerity]

23. yes, but the R nought is higher for the variants, so 70% might not be good enough

to calculate herd immunity level use this



If the R nought is 2.5

you have

1 - 1/2.5 (0.4)

so .6

expressed as a percent, 60%

so 60% of the populace needs immunity to reach herd levels


R nought of 3.0

1- 1/3

or around 67% needed


R nought of 3.5

1- 1/3.5

yields 71.5% roughly for herd immunity

BUT

the variants average so far out to around an R nought of 5 to 5.7 or so

taking the lower 5.0 R nought

you already know what is needed, as the maths are so easy

80% for herd immunity

if it is 5.5

82%

[ProfessorGAC]

26. One Other Thing To Consider

If(!) companies like airlines, resorts, ships, etc. begin to require a vaccine "passport" some of the resisters may change their tune, since being stubborn becomes inconvenient TO THEM!
At least I hope so.

[brewens]

6. The same vaccine the former guy is trying to take all the credit for? That makes a lot of

sense. Imagine if that idiot was trying to be helpful? Especially if he'd made a big deal out of getting it himself to promote it. Just like the masks and other precautions. He could have so easily have made all that the patriotic thing to do.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

8. Republicans who refuse the vaccine, more votes for Dems.

Great plan, Republicans.

Carry on.

[Walleye]

9. We will outlive the bastards, yet

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

10. Evolution in action, survival of the fittest

[hlthe2b]

13. Maybe we should have announced that ONLY Democrats COULD get the vaccine....

Somehow, I'd bet we'd see the opposite.

Outside of a small percentage who actually can't take the vaccine (those severely immunocompromised), it is sad to see so much willful ignorance out there. Those simply uninformed offers hope for convincing, but those who know better but DECIDE to swallow conspiracy theories are going to be a great substrate for further mutation of the virus.

[Deminpenn]

19. There are a LOT of anti-vaxxers out there

interspersed among the political parties and indies.

[hlthe2b]

20. You have no idea the irony of telling me that.

That said, it is still overwhelmingly Republicans (and especially Republican males) who are refusing thus far.

[central scrutinizer]

15. Selfish boneheads threatening the rest of us

Those not vaccinated become walking Petri dishes cooking up new, more lethal variants. We’ll never reach herd immunity with so many dumb shits in the herd.

[bdamomma]

16. you can't fix stupid.

nt.

[onetexan]

18. If they dont wana take vaccibe let them. Sorry to say but if more of them die off

This country w be better for it. U cant fix stupid.