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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:20 PM Mar 2021

Have you ever personally witnessed an aggressive and defiant anti-masker?

I've seen my fair share of exposed noses and chin-masks... but I've never personally witnessed any sort of confrontation.

I've seen no confrontation between anti-maskers and other patrons. No tantrums between anti-maskers and store employees/management. No hostility between anti-maskers and security/police.

What's your experience/s? What have you personally witnessed? (Youtube doesn't count.)




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I've never seen a confrontation.
22 (63%)
I've seen a confrontation between an anti-masker and another patron.
2 (6%)
I've seen a confrontation between an anti-masker and employees/management.
5 (14%)
I've been part of a confrontation with an anti-masker (NEW)
5 (14%)
I've seen a confrontation between an anti-masker and store security/police.
1 (3%)
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Have you ever personally witnessed an aggressive and defiant anti-masker? (Original Post) NurseJackie Mar 2021 OP
Don't have a choice to select TexasLefty29 Mar 2021 #1
It's hard to be that specific in a poll... but I think that the 2nd choice might fit. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #7
It was TexasLefty29 Mar 2021 #11
I'd have been horrified... and frightened for you. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #13
You Rock unweird Mar 2021 #32
How about murielm99 Mar 2021 #2
Yikes! I guess that would qualify as witnessing a patron and anti-masker... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #4
Me too. mobeau69 Mar 2021 #5
Added. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #8
None. I'm not a good sample, though. I shop once a month and get back home before sunrise. Binkie The Clown Mar 2021 #3
I was thinking the same thing about myself... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #6
Yeah, me too. The only time I have been anywhere except a doctor's rsdsharp Mar 2021 #14
The media narrative is we're all out fighting each other leftstreet Mar 2021 #9
That describes me... NurseJackie Mar 2021 #10
Or being spit on. nt leftyladyfrommo Mar 2021 #26
That's me drmeow Mar 2021 #34
I've seen store security threatening to call the police at Target and Costco. hunter Mar 2021 #12
No confrontation, but plenty of defiance. GoCubsGo Mar 2021 #15
I've seen that dynamic as well. Not often but occasionally. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #16
We have a Mennonite enclave here, too. GoCubsGo Mar 2021 #18
months ago, I got into it with a really loud, ignorant piece of work NewHendoLib Mar 2021 #17
Glad it wasn't any worse. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #19
Her whole purpose was to cause a scene. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2021 #27
I've seen many confrontations, been involved in four. Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #20
Wow! That's horrifying!! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #21
I live in Illinois. In my precinct, 76% voted for Trump. Trump signs are still up everywhere. Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #29
Yes this was last Spring. Get this GusBob Mar 2021 #22
I can only imagine he's a typical privileged Trump humper. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #24
I haven't And thank goodness for that! electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #23
Yes, But Not Aggressive Like The Link ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #25
Twice FoxNewsSucks Mar 2021 #28
I wear my mask at the gas pump, even though it's outdoors. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #30
I've never said anything to anyone outdoors, FoxNewsSucks Mar 2021 #31
The rabid Trumpers I know are mask people Lucinda Mar 2021 #33
I live in Trump Country MI and almost all wear masks Kaleva Mar 2021 #35
Wow! Go figure. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #38
I'm in Fairfax County (No. VA). FSogol Mar 2021 #36
The Luray area has a strange mixed dynamic. Touristy and backwoods at the same time. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #39
My daughter was attacked at a local bakery. Greybnk48 Mar 2021 #37
so few wear masks here (a bit more than before the variants hit) There are no mandatory mask rules Celerity Mar 2021 #40
Yes. The mask hole was told to leave and the business had the right kairos12 Mar 2021 #41
Easy peasy! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #42

TexasLefty29

(190 posts)
1. Don't have a choice to select
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:25 PM
Mar 2021

Because I’ve been in a physical confrontation over a guy refusing to put on a mask.

There were other circumstances at play.

But in the end, the big jock got a right jab between the eyes from this Texas tomboy, and I walked right out.
The others (whom ALL were masked) didn’t mind it.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. It's hard to be that specific in a poll... but I think that the 2nd choice might fit.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:37 PM
Mar 2021

You're braver than I am. I'd walk away. My bones are brittle and my face is too pretty (also, I bruise easily)

Sorry you had to go through that.

TexasLefty29

(190 posts)
11. It was
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:44 PM
Mar 2021

at a Walmart, and he was rushing my partner and I to be finished at the self check out. Staring first, then slowly stepping forward. After some other check outs cleared up and he didn’t go to them, I realized he may have chosen us specifically to heckle (gay couple in a red state, county, city), so after he got close enough to where my partner turned around and was alarmed at his lack of distance (maybe 3 feet away), she asked him to step back 1.) because it was rude and 2.) he was maskless. After making some remarks towards my partner and getting closer than 3 feet to her, I stepped in the way and pushed his chest a little and asked him one time nicely to back up. After the big d-y-k-e word, he got one good jab. Others saw. Employee at the check out saw. Walked out and said “hope you enjoyed getting beat by a girl, put a mask on next time” - I still go back there every two weeks to cash my check. No sight of him. Weenie baby.

Edit- I’m 5’8” and 130#. Not even bulky or anything.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. I'd have been horrified... and frightened for you.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:52 PM
Mar 2021
Walked out and said “hope you enjoyed getting beat by a girl, put a mask on next time”
But hearing/seeing this would have made it all worthwhile.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Yikes! I guess that would qualify as witnessing a patron and anti-masker...
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:32 PM
Mar 2021

... unless you were management or security. (Sorry that happened to you.)

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
3. None. I'm not a good sample, though. I shop once a month and get back home before sunrise.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:28 PM
Mar 2021

I may have seen a dozen people total in the last 6 months.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. I was thinking the same thing about myself...
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:35 PM
Mar 2021

... I'm "out" just once every two or three weeks (even longer if possible). It's just Costco/Costco-gas, Grocery store, Target, CVS, Cleaners... and that's it. I can get most of my errands taken care of on one day.

rsdsharp

(9,202 posts)
14. Yeah, me too. The only time I have been anywhere except a doctor's
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:54 PM
Mar 2021

office or hospital in more than a year was to go into a grocery store 2 1/2 weeks ago for my first vaccination.

leftstreet

(36,112 posts)
9. The media narrative is we're all out fighting each other
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:42 PM
Mar 2021

it's click bait revenue generating bullshit that also feeds the ruling class agenda of keeping the peons divided.

Most people who see or encounter a maskless idiot in a public setting likely say nothing, do nothing, and just hurry on by

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. That describes me...
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:43 PM
Mar 2021
say nothing, do nothing, and just hurry on by
Avoidance is retreat is far preferred to being punched, shouted at, or mistakenly arrested for being provocative.

drmeow

(5,024 posts)
34. That's me
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 01:58 PM
Mar 2021

Saw some dipshit with her young daughter go into Wegmans without a mask yesterday. Pissed me off but I just avoided her.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
12. I've seen store security threatening to call the police at Target and Costco.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 05:46 PM
Mar 2021

At Lowe's they gave angry guy a mask and followed him into the store to make sure he kept wearing it.

I live on the Left Coast.

GoCubsGo

(32,093 posts)
15. No confrontation, but plenty of defiance.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:09 PM
Mar 2021

The most recent being a religious nut, his wife, and daughter at Aldi yesterday. How did I know they were religious nuts? I pulled into the lot just as they were exiting their Chevy Suburban that was plastered with signs saying that "You all going to HELL!!!!"" The wife and daughter were dressed the way the Duggar females dress--something out of the 1970s farm chic. No masks, and he strutted around while the females did the shopping. I kept my distance, but it was really tempting to ask the daughter, while her parents were not near her, if she needed help and wanted an escape. She looked like she was around 15 or 16. Poor kid.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. I've seen that dynamic as well. Not often but occasionally.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:15 PM
Mar 2021

Here in Maryland it's usually Mennonite or Amish wearing their bonnets and ankle-length prairie dresses.

GoCubsGo

(32,093 posts)
18. We have a Mennonite enclave here, too.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:24 PM
Mar 2021

I never rarely see the men in the grocery stores, or the male children, for that matter. This family was likely part of some far-right fundamentalist sect. The woman's and daughter's dresses were long, but more tea-length. Granted, it was Sunday, so they were likely coming from church, but I doubt you'd ever see them dressing to the nines the way a lot of the women around here do for church services.

NewHendoLib

(60,021 posts)
17. months ago, I got into it with a really loud, ignorant piece of work
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:23 PM
Mar 2021

at a local post office. She came in unmasked, cut into the front of the line, and when I told her there was a line with gaps due to distancing. she started s reaming at me and the others that we were all brainwashed idiots, that covid was a hoax. after 5 min of that, she departed the scene.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. Glad it wasn't any worse.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:27 PM
Mar 2021
after 5 min of that, she departed the scene.
Glad it wasn't any worse. Chalk this up as a win.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,870 posts)
27. Her whole purpose was to cause a scene.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:48 PM
Mar 2021

The only ones left that do that now are just looking to
start trouble.

Midnight Writer

(21,802 posts)
20. I've seen many confrontations, been involved in four.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:30 PM
Mar 2021

Including a maskless man who apparently singled me out for some reason and started following me around the store haranguing me.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. Wow! That's horrifying!!
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:32 PM
Mar 2021

Which state or region do you live? Did you skedaddle? Or did you report him to store security?

Midnight Writer

(21,802 posts)
29. I live in Illinois. In my precinct, 76% voted for Trump. Trump signs are still up everywhere.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:54 PM
Mar 2021

He was with his I assume wife, who was wearing a mask. We were in the same aisle, I was looking at cat food, and he walked up very close to me and stood there staring. I turned and noticed him, thought "you're in my space, buddy" then went back to selecting my items. Then he said something like "You know that mask doesn't do any good" type thing. I said "alright then" and walked away. He followed me down the aisle (I noticed his wife stayed put) and said something about people like me afraid to leave my house and living in fear. I just walked on, but he stayed with me. Down the next aisle, up the main aisle, all the way to dairy section, walking right behind me. I stopped at the dairy section, and he stood up close to me for a minute, staring, then he strutted off.

Short, obese fellow with a ZZ Top beard. I don't know if he was spoiling for a fight or what. I was not afraid of him, but he did piss me off.

Reminded me of a grade school bully, calling someone a chicken and trying to get a reaction.

I reckon about 60% of people around here wear masks in stores. Loads of fundamentalist religious groups. There is no enforcement that I have ever seen.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
22. Yes this was last Spring. Get this
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:35 PM
Mar 2021

In a health care setting, our client pitched a fit over wearing a mask, stormed out of the clinic in a rage. We sent him his records and dismissed him from our office

He is a traveling ER physician, guess what?

Last summer he caught COVID and almost died

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. I can only imagine he's a typical privileged Trump humper.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:37 PM
Mar 2021
He is a traveling ER physician, guess what?
Amazing.

Last summer he caught COVID and almost died
I'm not surprised.

electric_blue68

(14,934 posts)
23. I haven't And thank goodness for that!
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:36 PM
Mar 2021

Though yesterday I had to nudge some of my super market workers to put their. Masks on their nose.

They're usually quite good.

ProfessorGAC

(65,176 posts)
25. Yes, But Not Aggressive Like The Link
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:43 PM
Mar 2021

Short argument.
Security guy said he's not there to argue & either go get a mask or leave entirely.
Guy walked off muttering, but later I saw him in the store with his mask on.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
28. Twice
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:50 PM
Mar 2021

A couple months ago, in line at the gas station. Guy in the other line had a mask hanging from his ear. Everyone else in the store had one on properly. Caseys is extremely slow at checkout time, so since I had nothing else to do but stand in line feeling my coffee getting cold, I spent the time glaring at him. A really evil "DIE DIE DIE" glare. Took about 30 seconds, and he put it on.

Two weeks ago, there was a man and woman around 40-50 in the grocery store. No masks, first time I've seen anyone without a mask in the grocery store since last May. Oblivious to everything around them. Cart in the middle of the aisle. I walked past them to grab what I needed. They didn't notice the dirty look. As I walked back by to go to my cart, I asked where their masks were, She says 'we don't have to wear them." I said "Everyone does until this is over, you're not special" . He babbled something about "don't have to, rights". I called them disease-spreading self-centered assholes as I kept walking.

I did mention it to the people at the customer service booth on my way out. The reason I and a few others I know go out of the way to shop at that store is that they were one of the first to put up a lot of signs requiring masks, and provide more than average sanitizer for the customers and carts. They'll also give someone a mask.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
30. I wear my mask at the gas pump, even though it's outdoors.
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 06:54 PM
Mar 2021

I often see people at the Costco gas pump not wearing their masks.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
31. I've never said anything to anyone outdoors,
Mon Mar 15, 2021, 07:00 PM
Mar 2021

because I'm don't always wear mine outside if no one is close to me. I just stay away from everyone until I have to put it on.

And I use a paper towel to push the buttons on the gas pump & hold the nozzle. Then sanitizer before touching anything else.

Kaleva

(36,345 posts)
35. I live in Trump Country MI and almost all wear masks
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:03 PM
Mar 2021

It's rare to see someone not wearing a mask.

FSogol

(45,527 posts)
36. I'm in Fairfax County (No. VA).
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:10 PM
Mar 2021

Wherever I go, about 95% of adults are masked up. Sometimes I see people without masks or guys dick-nosing it, but that's about it.

People have started going to restaurants and gyms and not wearing masks after entering, but I avoid those hot-spots.

My Mom lives down in the Shenandoah Valley. Old people wear masks, but middle age and younger people do not. People look at you for wearing a mask. Scary place.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
39. The Luray area has a strange mixed dynamic. Touristy and backwoods at the same time.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:51 PM
Mar 2021

You never know what you're going to get.

Old people wear masks, but middle age and younger people do not.
Ugh. The "invincibility" of youth. The cockiness of the 20's and 30's. --- They'll learn.

Greybnk48

(10,176 posts)
37. My daughter was attacked at a local bakery.
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 02:14 PM
Mar 2021

She was leaving the store and some young woman (her age) was coming in without a mask. My daughter told he to stay back while she left and that the woman should mask up like the Governor said. The 30 something woman went berserk! Followed my daughter to her car screaming all the way, and then pounded on my daughter's car windows several times. Practically foaming at the mouth with rage.

My daughter, who's smart phone is like another appendage, got almost the entire thing on video. The poor girl's mother was sitting in her daughter's car looking mortified. I was afraid my daughter somehow provoked the attack, but the bakery worker ran outside to apologize, and also called us to apologize (or order had our phone # on it).

My daughter reported her to the police, with her license number. They said they could not do anything about this incident, but they would call her, and they would put her on a watch list, whatever that means. It was something!

Celerity

(43,514 posts)
40. so few wear masks here (a bit more than before the variants hit) There are no mandatory mask rules
Tue Mar 16, 2021, 04:58 PM
Mar 2021

never have witnessed any confrontation

people here socially distance by default anyway

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