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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Confederacy was a con job on whites. And still is.
By Frank HymanIve lived 55 years in the South, and I grew up liking the Confederate flag. I havent flown one for many decades, but for a reason that might surprise you.
I know the South well. We lived wherever the Marine Corps stationed my father: Georgia, Virginia, the Carolinas. As a child, my favorite uncle wasnt in the military, but he did pack a .45 caliber Thompson submachine gun in his trunk. He was a leader in the Ku Klux Klan. Despite my role models, as a kid I was an inept racist. I got in trouble once in the first grade for calling a classmate the N-word. But he was Hispanic.
As I grew up and acquired the strange sensation called empathy (strange for boys anyway), I learned that for black folks the flutter of that flag felt like a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. And for the most prideful flag waivers, clearly that response was the point. I mean, come on. Its a battle flag.
What the flag symbolizes for blacks is enough reason to take it down. But theres another reason that white southerners shouldnt fly it. Or sport it on our state-issued license plates as some do here in North Carolina. The Confederacy and the slavery that spawned it was also one big con job on the Southern, white, working class. A con job funded by some of the ante-bellum one-per-centers, that continues today in a similar form.
Read more: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/opinion/article136803208.html
WA-03 Democrat
(3,055 posts)Thank you!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)get beaten and raped, etc. And they enjoy(ed) having someone to hate. Many rube descendants have not changed. If they had the money, most would have owned slaves.
Chainfire
(17,643 posts)The South does not hold a monopoly on racism, "rubes" or assholes.
A person can't help where they were born or who their ancestors were. A person is not responsible for what their ancestors did. It is a full-time job to be responsible for the only life a person has to live.
Haggard Celine
(16,856 posts)As the article says, most southerners didn't own slaves but were conned into fighting for the South. The article didn't mention one thing that they scared poor whites with, and that was miscegenation.
They told the poor whites that the negroes would be coming for the white women if they were freed and left to their own devices. Not only did they publish pamphlets about this horror, preachers talked about it from the pulpits.
The reason that poor whites fought was to keep the races separate, which is what also invigorated so many southern whites to be hostile toward integration a century later. The poor whites fighting for the Confederacy weren't exactly fighting for slavery. They just hated the idea of the mixing of the races and they thought that slavery was the only tool at the time to keep them separate.
A lot of the planters didn't even support the southern cause. They knew the South couldn't win the war and they weren't going to put all that they had in jeopardy just to be loyal to such a ridiculous war.
Natchez , Mississippi was one of the wealthiest towns in America at the time of the Civil War. The planters there openly supported the Union cause. That's why today Natchez has so many beautiful homes that people go on pilgrimages to visit every year.
The Yankees didn't torch all those splendid homes because the people of Natchez let it be known that they were Unionists. I'm sure they shared some of their great wealth with the invading armies as well. How those planters must have laughed at all those poor bastards who were fighting, supposedly for them.
Chainfire
(17,643 posts)It was the same reason that Northern soldiers fought against the South, and it is the same damn reason that poor people from all over the country fought in Vietnam. Poor people never have anything to gain from a rich man's war, but they have everything to lose whether they fight or run from the fight. So, when push comes to shove, they just fight.
Haggard Celine
(16,856 posts)People talk about the Civil War and say that it was a rich man's war and a poor man's fight. But aren't they all? Look at our history and the war profiteers. Some of the profiteers have been in the highest offices in the land. Poor people risk life and limbs to make mountains of cash for the wealthy. And they say nowadays, 'Well, we have a volunteer army. They know what they're getting into.'
Chainfire
(17,643 posts)But, it is OK. War is what we do best. We invest more blood and treasure in making war more than any other single effort. Making war is as much of being human as poetry, art or music.
If we don't have an external enemy, we will make one. If we can't make a convenient external enemy, we will split up and fight among ourselves. It is the fatal flaw in our species, it is who we are and it what will be the end of us. The funny thing is, is that we are so damned arrogant, we don't realize that the rest of the universe and the rest of time will never know we were ever here.
Now that I have got that out of my system, I think I will go kick my neighbors ass.
alwaysinasnit
(5,075 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... were told they were in danger at every turn and mostly in the churches.
littlemissmartypants
(22,808 posts)Effective January 1, 2021.
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TexasTowelie
(112,442 posts)The Confederate flag license plates fall into that category.