Kia offers a first look at its new EV6 electric car

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

While we don't have specifics about the vehicle ahead of its larger launch, based on what we know about the Ioniq 5 that's built on the same E-GMP architecture, we expect the EV6 to make close to 215 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque.

On the battery front, we anticipate a 77.4-kWh-capacity battery pack with a target range between 258 and 290 miles. Also like the Ioniq 5, pricing will likely start in the $45,000 range.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35824489/2022-kia-ev6-design-specs/


Nice!

[Dagstead Bumwood]

1. That's a nice looking vehicle.

Wouldn't in a million years purchase light-colored seats, they get dirty too easily, but that's me. Otherwise, top notch.

[WarGamer]

2. Too expensive

To truly change the culture and the composition of cars on the streets, the price point needs to be $20,000

Think a VW Golf-ish platform with a 200 mile range.

Car mfg are making higher profits on EV's right now...

[Karma13612]

4. Yup

It’s like solar panel pricing. I don’t know what its like now, but years ago it was pretty expensive to consider retro-fitting a home.

$45K will not have millions flocking to the Kia Dealership.

[WarGamer]

6. I'm a car guy.

I still don't understand why we don't get the sub-compacts that Europe does.

like a Renault Zoe (245 mile range)

[Karma13612]

12. I lived in England for a few years in

The early 2000’s.

I had a little tiny car called a Rover Metro.

Great mileage, simple, sturdy, 4 speed manual. Loved it. And I got it used for a song.

Here, in the states, small seems to come with HUGE price tags (i.e. Mini Coopers, VW bugs).
Did “they” ever think that MAYBE if they started selling small cars at REASONABLE prices, American drivers MIGHT actually WANT to buy them?

Heaven forbid. The car co’s don’t want us to know how good we could have it. Bilk us for whatever they can.

[WarGamer]

13. absolutely...

those EU cars with the high tech diesels were pulling in 80mpg more than 10 years ago.

[Caliman73]

5. Yup. I had been looking at the Ford Focus EV.

I like the styling and the reviews have been pretty good, but that 115 mile range is off putting, especially with such limited infrastructure right now.

I would buy a Focus with a 200 mile range and a 18k to 20k price point.

[TuskMoar]

7. I Get What You are Saying

but a cheap VW golf with less 200 mile range is the wrong way to go. Building crappy electric cars in the 70s and 80s is how the car manufacturers created the negative attitudes toward electric cars in the first place. I like seeing 0-60 times under 3 seconds and ranges exceeding 300 miles. It doesn't matter if people need or not. They want it and it makes the cars aspirational. A couple of decades ago, flat screen tvs were inaccessible to regular people. These cars will be the same way.

[WarGamer]

8. There are great cars out there now.

Renault Zoe, $26k in Europe, 245 mile range

Not saying I want THAT car here... just saying it can be done.

[WarGamer]

9. Oh and yes, of course

the Tesla PLAID and the Porsche Taycan are exhilarating...

But they're $100k+ each

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

10. You can get a real cheap one from China!

Here's the cheapest electric vehicle in the US -- and it comes from China, it's called the Kandi K27

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/cheapest-electric-vehicle-us-china/

[WarGamer]

11. Best selling EV in Europe, the Renault Zoe... from $26k

If Renault can build it... then Toyota or Ford can do it for less... 245 mile range

[Karma13612]

15. Excellent!

Point me to the nearest dealership!!
LOL!

To find a dealership, you need to key in your zip code.

It would appear that this is a needle-in-a haystack exercise.

At least if they had a locator map. I could spend the next week keying in zipcodes and probably never hit a match.

Sigh

[kcr]

31. That is adorable

It looks like a toy.

[NickB79]

18. There are few new cars available at $20,000 today

Even economy models by Kia, Ford and Toyota start at $17,000 (MSRP around $20,000). A couple of common options and you're past $20,000 easily.

The Volkswagen Golf you used as a comparison starts at $25,000.

An EV at $30,000 would be a steal, given how little maintenance and energy you'd need over the first 10 yr. You can get a new Nissan Leaf for that, but you'll only have a 125-mile range.

[WarGamer]

19. My personal advice to EVERYONE...

Buy a 2018 "off-lease" BMW i3 94AH.

Between 20-30k miles and I kid you not... $15-17k pricing.

New they were $50k

Very cool, sustainable construction and materials... 150 mile range... bigger than you'd think inside.

[meadowlander]

20. Our motor pool at work uses these and they are fabulous.

I've taken them out on 6-7 hour drives and still had like a quarter of the battery capacity left by the end of the day. Would definitely consider buying one used the next time I need a car.

I'm not sure how it works at home though. Do you have to install some big docking station like the ones they have there or is it just like an extension cord from a panel over a regular electrical socket?

[WarGamer]

27. that's great...

When I sat in one I was shocked that it's nothing like a mini Cooper or a little car inside.

Feels like a little van inside!!

You can plug them in, Stage 1... to a regular 110V outlet and they take a LOOOONG time to charge.

Or you can install a Fast Charger at home where they charge in much less time.

[LanternWaste]

21. Much as my first computer in 1983 was "too expensive."

Cost seventeen times as much as my current PC and was little more than a paperweight compared to it tech/speed-wise as well.

[tinrobot]

24. Already happening. You can buy a new Chevy Bolt today for under $25k.

Slightly used ones can be had for $10-20k.

[uponit7771]

25. +1,

[kcr]

30. I agree

It's too bad. It's a nice-looking car.

[marble falls]

3. The interior is very nice and simple.

[Johnny2X2X]

14. Drove a Tesla last year

It's still evolving as a technology, but we're on the verge of big changes. by the end of the decades, EVs will be universally accepted as more desirable. They simply have several massive built in advantages of ICs.

They will end up being cheaper, safer, more reliable, and more fun to drive. They're already safer, the batteries give the car a lower and more evenly distributed weight. They're smoother and quieter. They're faster and handle better due to the weight being more evenly spread out vs an IC with so much of the weight being in the engine.

The take less hours to build and the batteries are 99% recyclable for materials.

Range is being overcome right now. 300 mile range will be standard by the end of the decade. 400 or 500 miles soon after that.

It's all about recharge time, that's the last thing to overcome, but there are new solid state batteries that will be used by 2030 that have a 10 minute recharge time.

By 2035, it's going to be a brand new ball game, and driving an internal combustion engine will be seen as a novelty or as something people only do when they must.

[beaglelover]

16. Not bad looking. Not impressed with the horsepower for the price. Range isn't great either.

I'll stick with my Tesla. About the same price, more hp, more range and better looking, IMO.

[bushalert]

17. 250 mile range a deal killer for me. Gonna hold out for 400+

[Initech]

22. I want one!

[joetheman]

23. I am glad I am glad that cars have never impressed me. Always has been merely transportation.

[Raine]

26. Very attractive, looks nice! 👍 nt

[Ilsa]

28. Seems like the new cars have dials for gear shifts now.

That will take some getting used to for me.

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

29. EVs dont have a need for shifting, an electric motor delivers torque/power instantly to wheels

[Ilsa]

34. How do you shift to reverse? Is that

what the dial is for?

I've driven both manual and automatic transmissions. Glad the motor won't have to shift between gears any mire, but I imagine Park and Reverse need some sort of indicator.

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

35. No shifting trough a multi-speed transmission I mean, yeah, the dial has reverse, lol

Used to be you could hop in any vehicle and know how to start it, shift it. Now if you havent been in it, it could be hard to understand how to start it, and electronic transmissions can be confusiing.

Every time I called about a used car the salespeople would warn me if its a manual, a stick...

yeah, that what i want!

lol

Might have to looks around for a real 6 speed, a 2006 Mazda Miata

[Silent3]

32. Whatever the stated range is, cut that almost in half for winter driving

My Chevy Volt (I got the last model year they made) has a nominal 53 mile electric range, before running as a hybrid on gas. I run pure electric 95% of the time.

In the summer I almost always get the stated 53-mile range, and have even managed a little over 60 miles now and then.

In the coldest days of winter, mid 30s is the best that I do. But at least with a Volt, gasoline hugely extends that range

Even with a nominal 200-250 mile electric range, but no gasoline back-up, I wouldn't feel at all safe for anything but local driving, especially in winter.

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

33. EVs as second cars? everyone I know has gas car as primary for long trips, emergency bugouts

What about when the power goes out for days???? You have another vehicle, right?

Would you really want to be caught by wildfire in Cali because your Tesla ran out of juice stuck in traffic in an evacuation?