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Tommy Carcetti

(43,232 posts)
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 06:14 PM Mar 2021

I have to break my rule of ignoring the Former Office Occupant here. Because this is pure GIBBERISH.

Seriously, if anyone can make any sort of sense out of any of this, please let me know.

I've read it several times over, and somehow it makes even less sense every subsequent time I've read it.

Is he denying that Republicans are using his fraud allegations as a fundraising tool, or bragging about it? I literally do not know.


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At least he admits that "Donald Trump's biggest fabrication [is] Election Fraud."
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I have to break my rule of ignoring the Former Office Occupant here. Because this is pure GIBBERISH. (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Mar 2021 OP
When you consider the target of the remarks, it is fine. Yonnie3 Mar 2021 #1
The orange hemorrhoid Dave in VA Mar 2021 #2
What was illegitimate was his attempted coup malaise Mar 2021 #3
so he still gets a voice on Twitter markie Mar 2021 #4
Report it... HipChick Mar 2021 #7
I just did dflprincess Mar 2021 #22
It looks like Chump sent it out as an email FakeNoose Mar 2021 #8
yah... markie Mar 2021 #10
The speech that will be curved in stone outside his Presidented Liberry-n-Gifts NotASurfer Mar 2021 #5
Indubididly! JohnnyLib2 Mar 2021 #12
Give him just a little more time... kentuck Mar 2021 #6
Trash thread BlueLucy Mar 2021 #9
Oooohhhh... I know! I know! SeattleVet Mar 2021 #11
I Could Eat A Bowl Of Alphabet Soup And S**t A More Coherent Paragraph nt smb Mar 2021 #17
That is very, very funny. 3catwoman3 Mar 2021 #23
So this "senior correspondent" for the Daily Crawler gets to post Trump's vomitus on Twitter? nt Atticus Mar 2021 #13
Not Much To Worry About. It Didn't Write This ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #14
Several of the capital letters shouldn't be used for those words muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #26
Disagree Completely ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #30
That's not the capitialization for normal slogans muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #31
I Think You're Missing My Point ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #32
Things like "Swing States" aren't catchphrases. And the whole thing is badly written muriel_volestrangler Mar 2021 #33
On This, We Agree ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #35
Just what you'd expect from a wannabe inept dictator. spanone Mar 2021 #15
Given who it's meant for, I think it's almost perfect. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2021 #16
I think that the Congress owes it to Donald Trump Dan Mar 2021 #18
he's begging for money. barbtries Mar 2021 #19
As time passes and there is more and more distance from trump's disastrous four years... brush Mar 2021 #20
maybe It sounds better in the original Russian LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2021 #21
Not that it matters but I reported it. Tommymac Mar 2021 #24
Rambling disconnected thoughts bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #25
Reminds Me Of This Scene smb Mar 2021 #27
He writes like a 10 year old TexasBushwhacker Mar 2021 #28
And thats the proofread version of what he probably originally wrote!!! LOL winstars Mar 2021 #34
I will apply my best cryptanalytic skills to this mess jmowreader Mar 2021 #29

Yonnie3

(17,516 posts)
1. When you consider the target of the remarks, it is fine.
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 06:26 PM
Mar 2021

It has the best words ever and bigly demonstrates the best command of the English language. His rubes will send money.

NotASurfer

(2,157 posts)
5. The speech that will be curved in stone outside his Presidented Liberry-n-Gifts
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 06:52 PM
Mar 2021

He will celibate the finely speeched words. Such soreing olfactory! Linkman's Jerrysburger Address pails...Marion Lutefisk King's "I Dream of Jeanie" speach sounds like a first-garder student wrote it in crayon...I'm sure Individual One is very proud of himself there, definitely a two-scoop-worthy bit of writing.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
6. Give him just a little more time...
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 06:54 PM
Mar 2021

He will persuade enough people to believe it that they will make it the number one issue in the election of 2022. Just to validate his ego.

SeattleVet

(5,485 posts)
11. Oooohhhh... I know! I know!
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:17 PM
Mar 2021

He took a set of those refrigerator magnet poetry sets, put them all into a bag, and pulled them out at random to create the word salad above.

ProfessorGAC

(65,427 posts)
14. Not Much To Worry About. It Didn't Write This
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:25 PM
Mar 2021

Commas used, and he never would have thought to capitalize those select words. That's clearly the work of a PR person and/or copywriter.
Is it nonsense? Yes.
Is it essentially incoherent? Yes.
Were they actually the words of T%@#p? No.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,414 posts)
26. Several of the capital letters shouldn't be used for those words
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:06 PM
Mar 2021

If that were a PR person/copywriter trying to be literate, they should be fired. It's either Trump, or someone trying to write like him.

ProfessorGAC

(65,427 posts)
30. Disagree Completely
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 07:51 AM
Mar 2021

The words are capitalized for a reason.
In normal grammar & syntax they don't belong; you're right.
But, those are perfectly placed to sloganize.
And, a copywriter can clearly be hired to write propaganda.
You don't think Goebbels wrote everything published by the Reich, do you?
You are taking the role of copywriter to journalistically, I think.
Geez, there are copywriters in advertising. Grammar & syntax are second to impact in ads.
Same thing in propaganda.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,414 posts)
31. That's not the capitialization for normal slogans
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:12 AM
Mar 2021

I did assume you meant an advertising copywriter; and I never see ads written like that. If I did, I'd think they'd hired a moron (that's the "impact&quot . It's the style of someone who thinks that using capitals to start certain words makes them more important. It's the style that was used in his tweets, but which has not been significantly used by other political actors, no matter how much they are producing propaganda.

ProfessorGAC

(65,427 posts)
32. I Think You're Missing My Point
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 12:56 PM
Mar 2021

This is a team that functions on slogans, catch phrases, & dog whistles.
The captilization, I think, is intended to draw one's eyes to those words, which evokes their dumbass message to the cult.
It's not meant for you. It's not meant for me. Drawing attention to a gut reaction triggering phrase is a propaganda technique.
Don't think like you.
Think like someone highly susceptible to propaganda. If you were part of the moron brigade, you'd be drawn to the underlying message where the unnecessary captilization is.
That's why I don't think the useless ex-usurper wrote it. He'd never think to do it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,414 posts)
33. Things like "Swing States" aren't catchphrases. And the whole thing is badly written
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 01:23 PM
Mar 2021

from their point of view, since the first sentence says Trump fabricated "Election Fraud". Not a lot of thought went into it, or someone was trying to make it look like not a lot of thought went into it - because they know he's a moron.

ProfessorGAC

(65,427 posts)
35. On This, We Agree
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 01:31 PM
Mar 2021

I still think the misplaced capitalization is intentional, though.
To the cult, swing state, capitalized for added attention, fits with the "stolen election" crap.
Same thing with election fraud.
It's almost like a hashtag.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,216 posts)
16. Given who it's meant for, I think it's almost perfect.
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:34 PM
Mar 2021

Almost. I would remove all periods and commas -- to give everyone a feel for his thought processes.

Dan

(3,589 posts)
18. I think that the Congress owes it to Donald Trump
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:40 PM
Mar 2021

The privilege of testifying to the Nation under Oath his knowledge about the stolen election.

He is the former POTUS, so it should be on national TV, prime time, on every channel.

He should also be given the privilege of sharing with the Nation, under Oath, about the issues related to the Mueller (sic) investigation, where he was denied the opportunity to tell his side of the story.

And, this also applies to the ‘Perfect Call’ that relates to the Ukraine phone call, again under Oath.

Of course, one question that should be asked, while he is on stage, is his relationship to Russia.

brush

(53,978 posts)
20. As time passes and there is more and more distance from trump's disastrous four years...
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 07:55 PM
Mar 2021

he becomes less and less relevant as people realize the big plans he was supposed to have for his post-presidency was all just talk, as has been the pattern for most of his life with the failed businesses and bankruptcies.

It's just like with QAnon, people are wondering, where's the plan? What about the media empire that was talked about? What about the massive organization to get back in office. Was the failed insurrection it?

If that was it, it just follows the pattern of his life—one failure after another, interrupted by getting elected by a questionable 77k votes in three states with Russian help, followed again by failure after failure after failure.

That's the pattern of his life. There is no second, rectifying act, just as there was no second term.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
24. Not that it matters but I reported it.
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:51 PM
Mar 2021

It's all fucking lies.

But twitter has really made it hard to give a good reason for removing it - the election lie category is gone.

Oh well, at least I feel better.

bucolic_frolic

(43,511 posts)
25. Rambling disconnected thoughts
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 08:52 PM
Mar 2021

Most dementia patients sound like that after 3 beers, sleep deprivation for 72 hours, and jet lag.

smb

(3,478 posts)
27. Reminds Me Of This Scene
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:10 PM
Mar 2021
Spock: Captain, the speech follows no logical pattern.
Kirk: Random sentences strung together.
McCoy: He looks drugged, Jim. Almost at a cataleptic state.
--Star Trek, "Patterns of Force"

TexasBushwhacker

(20,256 posts)
28. He writes like a 10 year old
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 09:11 PM
Mar 2021

All the random capitalizations. I'm surprised he didn't throw an "OMG!!!" in there.

jmowreader

(50,601 posts)
29. I will apply my best cryptanalytic skills to this mess
Sat Mar 20, 2021, 10:33 PM
Mar 2021

Sentence 1: opens the rant by reporting what the New York Times said. This sentence is the clearest indication Trump didn’t write this; the word “failing” is absent. No mind; this is a direct report, and it’s fine.

Sentence 2: whoever wrote this is saying that the claims of election fraud are not fabrications.

Sentence 3: claims Democrats in swing states couldn’t get Republican co-workers to sign off on laws designed to make voting possible in the pandemic. This is probably true; it doesn’t matter, though, because the laws of all the states don’t say anything about the necessity for Republican votes to make a law legitimate. If there are 100 legislators in a body and 56 of them are Democrats, and a bill comes through that breaks along party lines, it passes. No Republican voices are necessary, which goes without saying. The line about the election being mandated by the Constitution can be read one of two ways. First is as a throwaway line, which I hope it was. The other is that Trump is admitting that if he had any choice whatsoever he would have canceled the election and kept on playing golf and giving our secrets to Vladimir Putin.

Sentence 4: The Trump people believe that because Republicans refused to help their citizens vote, the election is illegitimate. We knew that already, and the position has no basis in reality.

Sentence 5: Trump honestly believes the courts should have nullified the election. Since they wouldn’t do it, he feels free to spit venom in their direction.

Sentence 6: This is an attempt to justify people giving him money for whatever reason. He claims they’re still investigating voter fraud and still trying to overturn the election. They may very well be inventing new evidence to prove the election was stolen, but so what? After the 2000 election university scholars used Florida’s sunshine laws to get access to the presidential ballots. After a complete recount it was proven beyond all doubt that Gore received more votes than Bush, which would have flipped the election. Gore did not move into the White House.

It may be that Trump’s staff is maintaining this charade to keep him calm. It still won’t change the fact the 2020 election will go down in the annals of history as one of the worst beatings an incumbent president ever endured.

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