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SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:06 PM Mar 2021

Don't Expect Those Killed In Boulder, CO To Matter

Just another MASS SHOOTING in an American city.

It will be replaced with a new news story by the weekend.

And by a MASS SHOOTING in a different American city by next month.....or next week.

We accept SEDITION and STORMING THE CAPITOL, why should we give a shit about this?

We're a pathetic country. Nothing is learned. Nothing changes. More senseless death and carnage.

WHAT IS THE ANSWER????? It seems like in inescapable reality.

It feels so hopeless, like this country is not worth saving.

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Don't Expect Those Killed In Boulder, CO To Matter (Original Post) SoCalDavidS Mar 2021 OP
We don't accept sedition and storming the Capital. Phoenix61 Mar 2021 #1
Almost Half Of Congress Accept Sedition SoCalDavidS Mar 2021 #2
You don't know who will or won't be held accountable. Phoenix61 Mar 2021 #7
Think of it this way. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #3
2019 saw 417 mass shootings. There were only 365 days in 2019. AndyS Mar 2021 #4
Impressive, isn't it? PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2021 #5
I really thought Corgigal Mar 2021 #6
I was thinking that today. Jetheels Mar 2021 #31
news conference now bdamomma Mar 2021 #8
Rinse & Repeat SoCalDavidS Mar 2021 #9
There were several,last week. niyad Mar 2021 #10
we have unfortunately bdamomma Mar 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Mar 2021 #12
Sadly, you are correct. niyad Mar 2021 #13
Hanging Rupert Murdoch Would Go A Long Way DanieRains Mar 2021 #14
I have one question to ask the gun humpers, gab13by13 Mar 2021 #15
We own no guns and I won't let my Tree Lady Mar 2021 #18
I've never owned a gun, and at 68, I think I'm running out of time to ever own one. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #20
I think that is why my hubby and I are so different Tree Lady Mar 2021 #23
My family's experience was pretty much the same as yours. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #30
Maybe it's time for an organized march wnylib Mar 2021 #16
Nothing is going to change, the 2nd Amendment is a limited suicide pact. Celerity Mar 2021 #17
Quick reminder: Aussie105 Mar 2021 #19
The 2nd Amendment is not the problem hack89 Mar 2021 #29
I share your disgust ecstatic Mar 2021 #21
This Is So Correct, On Many Levels SoCalDavidS Mar 2021 #24
It will be replaced by BS like the "threat" at the Border JI7 Mar 2021 #22
Don't Minimize The Issues At The Border SoCalDavidS Mar 2021 #25
I'm not minimizing it. I said it was a serious issue but not the threat JI7 Mar 2021 #26
repubs Are Always Being Blowhards About Something SoCalDavidS Mar 2021 #28
Bad elements all over social and other media are trying to bring us all this low. Hortensis Mar 2021 #27

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
1. We don't accept sedition and storming the Capital.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:13 PM
Mar 2021

If we did no one would be sitting in jail waiting for a court date. The NRA has an oversized influence on our government. Most Americans support changes in gun laws to include background checks, waiting periods, closing of private dealer loop holes, banning of military assault style weapons, bump stocks etc. We know which senators and representatives oppose those changes and it is up to us to replace them with others who represent the majority of Americans.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
2. Almost Half Of Congress Accept Sedition
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:15 PM
Mar 2021

Essentially the entire repub party accepts and practically forgives it.

SOME of those who stormed the Capitol will be held accountable. Most won't, and the real perpetrators high above, will NEVER suffer any repercussions.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
7. You don't know who will or won't be held accountable.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:36 PM
Mar 2021

Who would have thought we’d have 2 Dem Senators from Georgia but we do. Yes, the RW nut jobs are out there but they are the minority. Always have been, always will be. We won when we GOTV. If we can do it under covid we can do it again.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
3. Think of it this way.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:22 PM
Mar 2021

We are rapidly getting back to normal. A second mass shooting in less than a week. That's the America we know and love.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
4. 2019 saw 417 mass shootings. There were only 365 days in 2019.
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:26 PM
Mar 2021

And it's getting worse.

But the WORST part is that mass shootings are only a small part of the carnage.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
5. Impressive, isn't it?
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:32 PM
Mar 2021

And a quick Google search shows there were even more in 2020. Which honestly surprised me, as I thought the number would have gone down, what with the pandemic. Apparently most mass shootings get essentially no coverage any more.

Which makes me wonder what makes any given shooting become major news.

For what it's worth, I used to live less than a mile from that King Sooper's and shopped there regularly.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
6. I really thought
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 09:34 PM
Mar 2021

after Sandy Hook.

Maybe that one parent was correct, we should have seen the photos. Maybe, it might have made us all give a damn.

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
31. I was thinking that today.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:50 PM
Mar 2021

I know it’s a gruesome idea, but, the news we are shown, visually, in this mass shooting, a shopping center parking lot with beautiful snow covered mountains in the distance. It’s like when Bush decided no photos of the coffins returning from war.

Response to SoCalDavidS (Original post)

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
14. Hanging Rupert Murdoch Would Go A Long Way
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:07 PM
Mar 2021

After being tried for murder.

All the people who are dead because of his propaganda / hate spewing for profit network.

gab13by13

(21,363 posts)
15. I have one question to ask the gun humpers,
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:14 PM
Mar 2021

I owned guns when I hunted, when I stopped hunting I got rid of my guns. I understand that these gun humper's mommies took away their binkies too soon and they feel insecure.

My question to them is; should the shooter in Boulder have owned a gun? I don't want to know if he purchased a gun legally because if he did then the laws are all fucked up. Anyone who kills 10 people should not have been allowed to own a BB gun let alone an AR15.

Ask the right questions MSM.

Tree Lady

(11,479 posts)
18. We own no guns and I won't let my
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:34 PM
Mar 2021

Husband get one. When I told him about Boulder his first comment was don't you think we need a gun now?

I said are you saying everyone should carry one to the store?

I remember summer of 2019 in Ireland for 3 months alone, very low crime and I felt totally safe because hand guns are illegal there and hard to get hunting license and gun.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
20. I've never owned a gun, and at 68, I think I'm running out of time to ever own one.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:01 AM
Mar 2021

Don't really feel anything close to a "want", let alone a "need." Maybe being Canadian has something to do with it...and not just because it's more difficult here.

Tree Lady

(11,479 posts)
23. I think that is why my hubby and I are so different
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:22 AM
Mar 2021

He was raised around guns went hunting with his dad, then was drafted during Vietnam and was one of the top shooters in training. He owned a gun when married to his ex and sold when they moved to a nice area in hills of bay area. He hasn't had once since.

I was raised by parents that never owned guns and my father never spoke about WW2. I learned many years later he was in Army Air core and was a gunner and saw his best friend killed in action.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
30. My family's experience was pretty much the same as yours.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:36 PM
Mar 2021

He flew Spitfires in the RCAF, which was seconded to the RAF. He was once shot down and wasn't sure which side of the front line he was on. Had quite the adventure for a few days, before running into a British armoured vehicle (not a tank).

I heard that story on the day we buried my mother, and he talked more about those times on that day than the rest of my recollection put together. He had had enough of flying and shooting. He even turned down the offer of a commercial pilot's license upon mustering out...or "demobbing" as they called it.

wnylib

(21,500 posts)
16. Maybe it's time for an organized march
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:16 PM
Mar 2021

called, "Stop the shootings."

Or, since marches on Washington are currently a touchy issue, we could have a national day of public memorials for shooting victims across the country.

Aussie105

(5,405 posts)
19. Quick reminder:
Mon Mar 22, 2021, 11:52 PM
Mar 2021

The second amendment was written when:

An attack by a foreign country was possible.

America did not have a standing army. Ordinary citizens needed to be prepared to pick up arms and go to war, if needed.

The 'weapon of mass destruction' in the hands of ordinary citizens at the time was a long rifle, load and fire maybe 2 rounds per minute.

Things have changed, yet the second amendment, backed by the NRA and lax politicians, allow the carnage to continue.

Can I remind people of a couple of things?

In war, it is imperative to NOT shoot at people on your side. A beserk soldier who does, would get a quick bullet in the head from another.

A lot of countries don't allow ordinary civilians to own guns. Just military and law enforcement.
They get by fine.

America hasn't had a decent war on domestic soil for a long time. Why be an armed camp?

It is what it is.
Until things change.


hack89

(39,171 posts)
29. The 2nd Amendment is not the problem
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:54 AM
Mar 2021

Nearly every desired gun control measure is legal and constitutional. It is politics and culture that are stopping gun control, not the law.

ecstatic

(32,713 posts)
21. I share your disgust
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:03 AM
Mar 2021

trump brought me to the full realization that my country is a "shithole" country. There are many positive points and bright spots--maybe even a majority of what our country represents and/or includes is good. Unfortunately, the rotten parts are overpowering the good parts because republicans refuse to help our society move forward in a positive direction.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
24. This Is So Correct, On Many Levels
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:30 AM
Mar 2021

I'm sorry it's not an Original Post, so I could Rec it.

My thoughts EXACTLY! We're a Shithole Country. I've been hearing my whole life what a great country this is, and how fortunate I am to live here. I look at how these incidents happen on a daily basis, and respond.....Really?

JI7

(89,254 posts)
22. It will be replaced by BS like the "threat" at the Border
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 12:21 AM
Mar 2021

or whatever else bs the Republicans push and which the media just runs with.

Asian women were targeted and shot and killed and the media thought the bigger issue was the border "threat" .

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
25. Don't Minimize The Issues At The Border
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:36 AM
Mar 2021

The border is a problem that Biden has to deal with. It's not going away.

This is just the Shooting Du Jour anyways. It has a limited shelf life, until it's time for the next one.

I didn't expect last week's to be the last, and I don't expect this one to be the last. Nor next week's or next month's or next year's.

It's who we are. We're a PATHETIC fucking country, and that's the bottom line.

JI7

(89,254 posts)
26. I'm not minimizing it. I said it was a serious issue but not the threat
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 04:11 AM
Mar 2021

that the Republicans and media try to make it out to be while people are getting shot and killed in this country.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
28. repubs Are Always Being Blowhards About Something
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 04:34 AM
Mar 2021

And the media are like lapdogs, who will follow the shiny object of the day.

Those things are as constant as the lack of gun control in this country.

The repubs need to attack Biden over something, and it ain't going to be his Covid response, since the public is on Biden's side for that. So they'll go after low hanging fruit, like the border situation, and blow up a bad, horrible situation, into a nuclear holocaust scenario. It's who they are, and what they do.

The media loves both these issues. Because they know that NOTHING will be done in regards to solving either crisis, yet they can still air hour upon hour of coverage and analysis, that's meaningless in the scheme of things, since NOTHING will change. They'll be saying THE EXACT SAME THINGS, 100%, that they said during the last mass shooting. They could read it off a fucking script from ANY incident in the last 2+ decades.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Bad elements all over social and other media are trying to bring us all this low.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 04:19 AM
Mar 2021

They've been on a very long losing streak that will continue because they're on the wrong side of history and the wrong side of decency and even good sense. They can't win by doing right, so they do wrong.

It's spring, time for planting something nice.

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