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Just another MASS SHOOTING in an American city.
It will be replaced with a new news story by the weekend.
And by a MASS SHOOTING in a different American city by next month.....or next week.
We accept SEDITION and STORMING THE CAPITOL, why should we give a shit about this?
We're a pathetic country. Nothing is learned. Nothing changes. More senseless death and carnage.
WHAT IS THE ANSWER????? It seems like in inescapable reality.
It feels so hopeless, like this country is not worth saving.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)If we did no one would be sitting in jail waiting for a court date. The NRA has an oversized influence on our government. Most Americans support changes in gun laws to include background checks, waiting periods, closing of private dealer loop holes, banning of military assault style weapons, bump stocks etc. We know which senators and representatives oppose those changes and it is up to us to replace them with others who represent the majority of Americans.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Essentially the entire repub party accepts and practically forgives it.
SOME of those who stormed the Capitol will be held accountable. Most won't, and the real perpetrators high above, will NEVER suffer any repercussions.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Who would have thought wed have 2 Dem Senators from Georgia but we do. Yes, the RW nut jobs are out there but they are the minority. Always have been, always will be. We won when we GOTV. If we can do it under covid we can do it again.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,865 posts)We are rapidly getting back to normal. A second mass shooting in less than a week. That's the America we know and love.
AndyS
(14,559 posts)And it's getting worse.
But the WORST part is that mass shootings are only a small part of the carnage.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,865 posts)And a quick Google search shows there were even more in 2020. Which honestly surprised me, as I thought the number would have gone down, what with the pandemic. Apparently most mass shootings get essentially no coverage any more.
Which makes me wonder what makes any given shooting become major news.
For what it's worth, I used to live less than a mile from that King Sooper's and shopped there regularly.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)after Sandy Hook.
Maybe that one parent was correct, we should have seen the photos. Maybe, it might have made us all give a damn.
Jetheels
(991 posts)I know its a gruesome idea, but, the news we are shown, visually, in this mass shooting, a shopping center parking lot with beautiful snow covered mountains in the distance. Its like when Bush decided no photos of the coffins returning from war.
bdamomma
(63,890 posts)10 fatalities and 1 police officer killed.
8 last week.........
It has to stop.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)It's not going to stop.
It's just not.
It is who we are as a country.
We're pathetic.
niyad
(113,434 posts)bdamomma
(63,890 posts)become desensitized to mass shootings, so so sad.
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niyad
(113,434 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)After being tried for murder.
All the people who are dead because of his propaganda / hate spewing for profit network.
gab13by13
(21,363 posts)I owned guns when I hunted, when I stopped hunting I got rid of my guns. I understand that these gun humper's mommies took away their binkies too soon and they feel insecure.
My question to them is; should the shooter in Boulder have owned a gun? I don't want to know if he purchased a gun legally because if he did then the laws are all fucked up. Anyone who kills 10 people should not have been allowed to own a BB gun let alone an AR15.
Ask the right questions MSM.
Tree Lady
(11,479 posts)Husband get one. When I told him about Boulder his first comment was don't you think we need a gun now?
I said are you saying everyone should carry one to the store?
I remember summer of 2019 in Ireland for 3 months alone, very low crime and I felt totally safe because hand guns are illegal there and hard to get hunting license and gun.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)Don't really feel anything close to a "want", let alone a "need." Maybe being Canadian has something to do with it...and not just because it's more difficult here.
Tree Lady
(11,479 posts)He was raised around guns went hunting with his dad, then was drafted during Vietnam and was one of the top shooters in training. He owned a gun when married to his ex and sold when they moved to a nice area in hills of bay area. He hasn't had once since.
I was raised by parents that never owned guns and my father never spoke about WW2. I learned many years later he was in Army Air core and was a gunner and saw his best friend killed in action.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)He flew Spitfires in the RCAF, which was seconded to the RAF. He was once shot down and wasn't sure which side of the front line he was on. Had quite the adventure for a few days, before running into a British armoured vehicle (not a tank).
I heard that story on the day we buried my mother, and he talked more about those times on that day than the rest of my recollection put together. He had had enough of flying and shooting. He even turned down the offer of a commercial pilot's license upon mustering out...or "demobbing" as they called it.
wnylib
(21,500 posts)called, "Stop the shootings."
Or, since marches on Washington are currently a touchy issue, we could have a national day of public memorials for shooting victims across the country.
Celerity
(43,422 posts)Aussie105
(5,405 posts)The second amendment was written when:
An attack by a foreign country was possible.
America did not have a standing army. Ordinary citizens needed to be prepared to pick up arms and go to war, if needed.
The 'weapon of mass destruction' in the hands of ordinary citizens at the time was a long rifle, load and fire maybe 2 rounds per minute.
Things have changed, yet the second amendment, backed by the NRA and lax politicians, allow the carnage to continue.
Can I remind people of a couple of things?
In war, it is imperative to NOT shoot at people on your side. A beserk soldier who does, would get a quick bullet in the head from another.
A lot of countries don't allow ordinary civilians to own guns. Just military and law enforcement.
They get by fine.
America hasn't had a decent war on domestic soil for a long time. Why be an armed camp?
It is what it is.
Until things change.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Nearly every desired gun control measure is legal and constitutional. It is politics and culture that are stopping gun control, not the law.
ecstatic
(32,713 posts)trump brought me to the full realization that my country is a "shithole" country. There are many positive points and bright spots--maybe even a majority of what our country represents and/or includes is good. Unfortunately, the rotten parts are overpowering the good parts because republicans refuse to help our society move forward in a positive direction.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)I'm sorry it's not an Original Post, so I could Rec it.
My thoughts EXACTLY! We're a Shithole Country. I've been hearing my whole life what a great country this is, and how fortunate I am to live here. I look at how these incidents happen on a daily basis, and respond.....Really?
JI7
(89,254 posts)or whatever else bs the Republicans push and which the media just runs with.
Asian women were targeted and shot and killed and the media thought the bigger issue was the border "threat" .
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)The border is a problem that Biden has to deal with. It's not going away.
This is just the Shooting Du Jour anyways. It has a limited shelf life, until it's time for the next one.
I didn't expect last week's to be the last, and I don't expect this one to be the last. Nor next week's or next month's or next year's.
It's who we are. We're a PATHETIC fucking country, and that's the bottom line.
JI7
(89,254 posts)that the Republicans and media try to make it out to be while people are getting shot and killed in this country.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)And the media are like lapdogs, who will follow the shiny object of the day.
Those things are as constant as the lack of gun control in this country.
The repubs need to attack Biden over something, and it ain't going to be his Covid response, since the public is on Biden's side for that. So they'll go after low hanging fruit, like the border situation, and blow up a bad, horrible situation, into a nuclear holocaust scenario. It's who they are, and what they do.
The media loves both these issues. Because they know that NOTHING will be done in regards to solving either crisis, yet they can still air hour upon hour of coverage and analysis, that's meaningless in the scheme of things, since NOTHING will change. They'll be saying THE EXACT SAME THINGS, 100%, that they said during the last mass shooting. They could read it off a fucking script from ANY incident in the last 2+ decades.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They've been on a very long losing streak that will continue because they're on the wrong side of history and the wrong side of decency and even good sense. They can't win by doing right, so they do wrong.
It's spring, time for planting something nice.